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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:19 pm 
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Let me assure you, it is not and let me assure why it is not. This investigation is about four people who were killed representing our country on foreign soil.”


:hithead: OUCH!! BOOM! drops the mic and walks away.........


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I almost enjoyed watching that as much as i did watching the Phins destroy the Titans last Sunday......... :)


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Do you think this phases her? Do you think she or the Democrat Party and their liberal/socialist supporters give a crap about this?

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She lied along with President Obama, Joe Biden and others to a grieving mom at a ceremony practically over the casket that contained the remains of her son about what happened. They probably don't care. Maybe the American people will care. I hope so.


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The only thing I currently take comfort in is that she is polling behind all major GOP candidates nationally. Will that change? I don't know.

This election will be about turnout. Right now Hillary doesn't have a fraction of the likeability or Hollywood support that Obama had in 08 and 12.

I've said this for months and people can discount or deny it, but never underestimate the American public's infatuation with celebrity. Trump has channeled that and the numbers are showing he is winning over the moderates of the GOP. So you can't characterize his lead as some right wing anger faction.

Can the Clinton Crime Family get the masses out to the polling stations? We will see.


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Do you think this phases her? Do you think she or the Democrat Party and their liberal/socialist supporters give a crap about this?


Your probably right. I really don't think she cares about anything except robbing the "non for profit " Clinton Administration for $600 haircuts and Jet setting. But it was still enjoyable watching her sit there like a bad dog who crap the carpet.


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AQNOR and Jammer your both right. This sheep driven society did actually elect Obama twice so I'm worried. The first time I get. Country was in a bad place in 2008. I get the want for change. But......in 2012 the Sheep just did followed. I can't see .0001% electability in either Bernie or Killery. But I'm starting to think society is just so dumbed down , hopefully the educated show up and vote.


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AQNOR and Jammer your both right. This sheep driven society did actually elect Obama twice so I'm worried. The first time I get. Country was in a bad place in 2008. I get the want for change. But......in 2012 the Sheep just did followed. I can't see .0001% electability in either Bernie or Killery. But I'm starting to think society is just so dumbed down , hopefully the educated show up and vote.


You really can't see Bernie being electable? He's basically the guy that is motivating the younger people and even some conservatives. He has a pretty good chance I believe.


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AQNOR and Jammer your both right. This sheep driven society did actually elect Obama twice so I'm worried. The first time I get. Country was in a bad place in 2008. I get the want for change. But......in 2012 the Sheep just did followed. I can't see .0001% electability in either Bernie or Killery. But I'm starting to think society is just so dumbed down , hopefully the educated show up and vote.


You really can't see Bernie being electable? He's basically the guy that is motivating the younger people and even some conservatives. He has a pretty good chance I believe.



Selling fantasies maybe? His concepts are so out there. Guy is a Kook. None of it adds up. Basically he screams, they are rich!! Its not fair. Lets take from them and give more to you. How do you think the Dolphins did so well this past week? Because Coach Campbell created competition. Its the American way. I'm so tired of these liberal Aholes wanting to give so much away.

Bernie is a Freakshow. If he wins the nomination ANY GOP nominee will shred him.


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You really can't see Bernie being electable? He's basically the guy that is motivating the younger people and even some conservatives. He has a pretty good chance I believe.


Who are these conservatives you speak of? Some young people, public sector employees and faculty lounge types...you betcha, they are all in.

Fiscal conservatives? I believe they seek smaller government, lower taxes and a free market. Social conservatives? I believe they seek a more bible centric society that isn't in tune with the crowd that follows Sanders.

Not sure you can honestly point out a conservative crowd that is "Feelin' the Bern" for Sanders.


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Cathal wrote:
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AQNOR and Jammer your both right. This sheep driven society did actually elect Obama twice so I'm worried. The first time I get. Country was in a bad place in 2008. I get the want for change. But......in 2012 the Sheep just did followed. I can't see .0001% electability in either Bernie or Killery. But I'm starting to think society is just so dumbed down , hopefully the educated show up and vote.


You really can't see Bernie being electable? He's basically the guy that is motivating the younger people and even some conservatives. He has a pretty good chance I believe.


Sanders is not electable. He has virtually all general election metrics going against him.

He's old and uncharismatic. He's a socialist. He can't give a straight answer on his religious beliefs. His plans literally add up to another 18 trillion in debt by the time his second term would be done.

His ideas would get torn apart in the general election. He may be motivating younger people, but they are fickle. And I highly doubt he is motivating any conservatives with his ideas.

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I thought Biden would run and take out Killery, but the Dems have to put all their eggs in the Killery basket now. Even Webb saw the light and went Libertarian because the debate was rigged. Killery was answering questions before they were even answered. She probably wrote the questions.

The GOP is the same way. But Trump and Carson are not playing the game and it's causing havoc over there.

I'm kind of hoping for a Trump nomination now just to see him dish it out against her. He will start with Blowjobs and end with how much she rips off the Clinton Foundation daily for $600 haircuts, Jetsetting , and Hotel suites. It would be epic. :)

Chris Christe would be fun to watch too.


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My guess is a deal was cut between the Clintons and the Obamas to pave the way for...

Elizabeth Warren as the VP candidate.

Hillary is already playing the gender card because...well what else can she run on? You double up with Warren to ensure that there is a means of maintaining the Obama legacy.

One thing Hillary was unexpectedly losing on, quite badly in fact, was female support. She's already claiming sexism against Bernie Sanders and will do so against whoever the GOP candidate is. Bring in Warren and you're not selling Hillary so much as a Female White House which may be effective enough to change some minds.

The problem with Warren is on her own she's un-electable outside of places like MA, NY and CA. But send her out on some grassroots missions to swing states to trump up the female vote and the inner city vote and you've got yourself a new race.


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I want the next president to completely wipe the entire Obama admin from the map. Obama care. Gone. Iraq Nuclear deal? Completely scrapped. Bring back jobs from overseas. and take care of our veterans and bring respect back to Law Enforcement.


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It's looking like the FBI case on Hillary is heating up.Last year Hillary was distancing herself from Barack Obama. Now she was all over him in the last debate hoping he's going to protect her. 100 agents on the case.....and I hear no way the dems will allow Crazy Bernie to get the nod. BIDEN Is in the bullpen warming up. :crap


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Trust me I'm not a Bernie Sanders fan........but I'm enjoying him wipe the floor with her. His policies are so crazy out there. His fans are barely at voting age. The guy and his fans are completely deranged if they think he would ever get elected and socialism came to full bore fruition. Never ever. Yet he came with in a bakers dozen of beating her. LOL!! images/smilies/crap.gif


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T... His policies are so crazy out there...


Unfortunately, politics have gotten so extreme and vile that when someone who is rather sensible runs, we view him as crazy.


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T... His policies are so crazy out there...


Unfortunately, politics have gotten so extreme and vile that when someone who is rather sensible runs, we view him as crazy.


In your opinion he's sensible and that is fine. I'm sure there are several Cubans, Venezuelans, Chinese and people who resided in Soviet Russia who would love to debate you on the results of what he promotes.

Microeconomics 101 demolishes most of his proposals.


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T... His policies are so crazy out there...


Unfortunately, politics have gotten so extreme and vile that when someone who is rather sensible runs, we view him as crazy.


Yes, because taxing someone 90% of their income is somehow sensible. Yes because proposing trillions in new spending and paying for it with a tax plan that will generate less than half a trillion to offset is somehow sensible for a country that is $19 trillion in debt. Yes, because thinking that a student loan obtained by someone with no credit history and with no collateral offered up should have the equivalent interest rate to a mortgage obtained by someone with excellent credit and the property as collateral is somehow sensible.

If you consider unicorns and fairies sensible, Bernie Sanders is the man for you.

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Rich wrote:
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T... His policies are so crazy out there...


Unfortunately, politics have gotten so extreme and vile that when someone who is rather sensible runs, we view him as crazy.


Yes, because taxing someone 90% of their income is somehow sensible. Yes because proposing trillions in new spending and paying for it with a tax plan that will generate less than half a trillion to offset is somehow sensible for a country that is $19 trillion in debt. Yes, because thinking that a student loan obtained by someone with no credit history and with no collateral offered up should have the equivalent interest rate to a mortgage obtained by someone with excellent credit and the property as collateral is somehow sensible.

If you consider unicorns and fairies sensible, Bernie Sanders is the man for you.


So I take it Bernie can count on your vote? :)


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So I take it Bernie can count on your vote? :)


Translation: I got no rebuttal to what you just posted.

By the way, I knew your response would be along these lines when I responded last night. :hithead:

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I will give Bernie Sanders one thing........he appears really honest. Hes not hiding anything. He states: I'm a socialist AND I'm going to raise your taxes up front! he said it. and I give him credit for that. But what I'm truly amazed at is that people are responding to it! Yes. Tax me, take more, just give me free crap! Then I realize the people following him are very young or extreme liberals that dont really have anything to lose. I dont want to piant a large brush, I'm sure there are some who work hard and dont mind giving, but its certainly not the main demographic. However to these people Republicans are evil and anything, anything including Bernie Sanders is better. And the fact that he is doing so well shows how bad Hillary is, and that warms my heart. :yay:

2000-2008 was a bad time for this country. War and WMDs were the topics. This next President needs to change the impressions people have of the conservative GOP. They need to bridge the gap if they want to be successful after this next election and beyond. Cant rule from the far left or the far right IMO. I think Rubio or Trump are more moderate then CRUZ could ever be and that's going to be a huge asset in the future.


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Bernie Sanders isn't honest. He's still going around saying he doesn't get PAC money when in fact he gets more PAC money than Hillary.

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Obama has been ruling from the far left.

It would be nice if we did not have rulers but leaders imo.


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Obama has been ruling from the far left and the majority of Democrats are OK with socialism.

We're not a center right country anymore.

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Bernie Sanders isn't honest. He's still going around saying he doesn't get PAC money when in fact he gets more PAC money than Hillary.


Granted, I don't follow this stuff for the most part, but doing just a brief search on politifact has his claim as "Mostly True" that he doesn't benefit from super PACs. Now, whether or not you believe politifact is a different thing.

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I know Socialism is generally regarded as a bad word in America and is almost synonymous with Communism but hey, why not look into it a bit more? Better healthcare for people, cheaper college, removing corporate loop-holes, have the wealthiest people pay their fair share while also raising taxes for everyone else? I dunno, it's something to look into since clearly, the way we have been going is not working great.


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I know Socialism is generally regarded as a bad word in America and is almost synonymous with Communism but hey, why not look into it a bit more?


No economic system has historically failed faster around the world than socialism. Look how quickly it crumbled in South America.

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Based on what?

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I don't think you understand what socialism means...

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I dunno, it's something to look into since clearly, the way we have been going is not working great.


We are $19 TRILLION in debt in large part because more and more, socialism has crept it's way into our economy and government.

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The way we have been going is toward more and more socialism. You are right it has not been great. What is surprising is that it is not seen more clearly.


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Obama has been ruling from the far left.

It would be nice if we did not have rulers but leaders imo.

AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!! :yay:


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I know Socialism is generally regarded as a bad word in America and is almost synonymous with Communism but hey, why not look into it a bit more? Better healthcare for people, cheaper college, removing corporate loop-holes, have the wealthiest people pay their fair share while also raising taxes for everyone else? I dunno, it's something to look into since clearly, the way we have been going is not working great.



Here's my main issue, you give people dinner instead of teaching them to fish, it breeds severe mediocrity. Why should people work hard to be successful and make a great buisness if they will be punished for it? Why take chances? This new generation seems to be the I want it now, give it to me bunch. College is expensive, but like a car you can buy a Chevy or a Porsche to get from Point A to point B. I went to night school, worked during the day for 4 yrs. It was hard, but I had no college bills afterwards. I found a job with good medical. Not great pay, but good benifits for the family. I worked my way up over 20 yrs.

Now Obama comes in and triples my medical costs overnight. It's BS. Bernie states he is definitely raising my taxes. I already worked and paid for my school, and my sons. What good does free college do me? Millions of other Americans? Obama care is a joke. He put us in the toilet and Bernie or Hillary will just flush it.


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I would have zero problem in paying more taxes if I knew the money would be spent wisely. Instead, what we're being told is that... here comes a new government program, it is going to cost X amount and it is going to do Y. But when the program actually gets implemented, it costs quite a bit more and doesn't accomplish what it was intended to accomplish.

And it is a vicious cycle, because once I have already been taxed, they tell me it is going to happen all over again.

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I would have zero problem in paying more taxes if I knew the money would be spent wisely. Instead, what we're being told is that... here comes a new government program, it is going to cost X amount and it is going to do Y. But when the program actually gets implemented, it costs quite a bit more and doesn't accomplish what it was intended to accomplish.

And it is a vicious cycle, because once I have already been taxed, they tell me it is going to happen all over again.


How's everyone been, btw?

Rich, it's weird that we (people) can't staff these positions with competent workers so the programs get run as close to their intended purpose.

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Bingo Rich! It's scary, because stating you would raise Taxes was considered political suicide not long ago.Now it's socially (get it? Socialism ) accepted. WTF?


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College is expensive. I went to night school, worked during the day for 4 yrs. It was hard, but I had no college bills afterwards.

Now Obama comes in and triples my medical costs overnight. It's BS. Bernie states he is definitely raising my taxes. I already worked and paid for my school, and my sons. What good does free college do me? Millions of other Americans? Obama care is a joke. He put us in the toilet and Bernie or Hillary will just flush it.


Yeah, but college costs are higher than when either one of us was there.

Obama didn't triple your premiums. That's the insurance companies. Why aren't you mad at them? They are the ones who make the profits. All Obama gets is the satisfaction of the seeing the amount of Anericans who are uninsured decreasing. There is also data showing that, on the whole, costs are slowing down than before. Honestly, your health insurance was going up in price anyway, bc that's what happens with insurance companies.

I have no problem conceeding any of the problems with Obamacare, but it is far from a joke when you open up insurance to millions of Americans who couldn't afford it before or weren't eligible (remember pre-existing conditions?).

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College: PBSC (local state college here) costs 300 per class right now, which is higher than I paid per class at a university 15 yrs ago. So, a full load is 1,500 per semester.

And don't forget about books. It's obscene what they cost. A friend just paid $200 for her textbook. That's just a single book.

$2,000 a semester if you are lucky.

For state college.

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How's everyone been, btw?

Rich, it's weird that we (people) can't staff these positions with competent workers so the programs get run as close to their intended purpose.


Pretty simple answer here: politicians and their colleagues fill the spots with family and friends. They don't care about efficiency, just that their family/friends get a healthy salary and lifetime pension.

You mentioned Obamacare, well the website for that cost $600 million and was a flop. Its development went to a friend of Michelle Obama to design. So yes, the Obama family had a clear hand in the problem.

And to be fair, I'm quite sure we could point to examples from any Republican politician getting some big project for a friend that cost too much and produced no results.

Again, my issue has never been with the programs themselves but rather having the government run them. For every dollar you're taxed about 33 cents actually makes it to the intended project.


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Rich, it's weird that we (people) can't staff these positions with competent workers so the programs get run as close to their intended purpose.


Because government agencies do what they can to justify their budgets. Hey guys... we have a $5 million budget but we only spent $4.5 million... should we return to the money?

No!!!!!! Buy new laptops for everyone!

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I have no problem conceeding any of the problems with Obamacare, but it is far from a joke when you open up insurance to millions of Americans who couldn't afford it before or weren't eligible (remember pre-existing conditions?).


You opened up crappy insurance to millions while getting millions removed from their less crappy plans.

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I have no problem conceeding any of the problems with Obamacare, but it is far from a joke when you open up insurance to millions of Americans who couldn't afford it before or weren't eligible (remember pre-existing conditions?).


You opened up crappy insurance to millions while getting millions removed from their less crappy plans.



Exactly . And essentially that's what Socialism is. They make everything bland. We are all now paying 3x more for really awful coverage. I dont know about you but myself and my family is not better off. All you have are those that didn't have it have something, anything for free. And those that work , pay a lot more for alot less. Keep it going for a 3rd time and we will have Europe.


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We will have Europe? You mean full coverage for everyone? Oh, don't get me excited, MiamiMenace!

Our number of uninsured people has done down by about 17 million. I believe that's a good thing at the end of the day while admitting it's not been perfect.

The question though, is why don't you direct your anger at greedy insurance companies?

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