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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:52 pm 
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Miami would still have sucked all those years even without Tom Brady ever touching a football.


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Phin wrote:
Miami would still have sucked all those years even without Tom Brady ever touching a football.


You could say back in the 80s that the Bills kept Dan Marino from winning a Super Bowl (although a lot can also be said about the lack of a defense and a very good running back), but you cannot say that Tom Brady kept the Dolphins from winning a Super Bowl. We just were never that good.

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I think Tony Eason was the one guy that really stopped Marino from grabbing a Super Bowl win.


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I think Tony Eason was the one guy that really stopped Marino from grabbing a Super Bowl win.


The Patriots did beat the Dolphins in the championship game the year after our last Super Bowl appearance, but the Bills beat Danny three times in the playoffs and one was the conference championship, too.

Isn't it crazy how fast that great Bill Arnsparger defense unraveled after he left? Shula should have hired a credible DC to replace him.

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Big Dave wrote:
jgod1 wrote:
I think Tony Eason was the one guy that really stopped Marino from grabbing a Super Bowl win.


The Patriots did beat the Dolphins in the championship game the year after our last Super Bowl appearance, but the Bills beat Danny three times in the playoffs and one was the conference championship, too.

Isn't it crazy how fast that great Bill Arnsparger defense unraveled after he left? Shula should have hired a credible DC to replace him.


I think it was harder to address issues in the era Shula coached. Free agency rules were not as loose and Shula often made miracles with lesser talent. The Bills stacked that team with great draft picks and Miami did not.


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Big Dave wrote:
Phin wrote:
Miami would still have sucked all those years even without Tom Brady ever touching a football.


You could say back in the 80s that the Bills kept Dan Marino from winning a Super Bowl (although a lot can also be said about the lack of a defense and a very good running back), but you cannot say that Tom Brady kept the Dolphins from winning a Super Bowl. We just were never that good.


The Bills had great talent on both sides of the ball, but not as good as their Super Bowl opponents. We probably have never had a multi-purpose back near the caliber of Thurman Thomas. Jim Kelly was not Marino, but he did not have to carry a whole team either. Andre Reed was a true #1 receiver...we had a couple close to his caliber, but not lately. Bruce Smith was a force rushing the passer and they had great linebackers on Talley and Bennett. Unlike Miami great defenders, they played at their best in playoff games. Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas often failed on the biggest stages....no shame in the Bills losses to an even greater Dallas team, but the loss to NYG will always sting for them...the Redskins bowl game was over after the 2nd quarter....the Skins seemed the perfect defensive match for the Bills’ vaunted offense.


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Phinished wrote:
Big Dave wrote:
Phin wrote:
Miami would still have sucked all those years even without Tom Brady ever touching a football.


You could say back in the 80s that the Bills kept Dan Marino from winning a Super Bowl (although a lot can also be said about the lack of a defense and a very good running back), but you cannot say that Tom Brady kept the Dolphins from winning a Super Bowl. We just were never that good.


The Bills had great talent on both sides of the ball, but not as good as their Super Bowl opponents. We probably have never had a multi-purpose back near the caliber of Thurman Thomas. Jim Kelly was not Marino, but he did not have to carry a whole team either. Andre Reed was a true #1 receiver...we had a couple close to his caliber, but not lately. Bruce Smith was a force rushing the passer and they had great linebackers on Talley and Bennett. Unlike Miami great defenders, they played at their best in playoff games. Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas often failed on the biggest stages....no shame in the Bills losses to an even greater Dallas team, but the loss to NYG will always sting for them...the Redskins bowl game was over after the 2nd quarter....the Skins seemed the perfect defensive match for the Bills’ vaunted offense.


:yay: (need a sad thumb's up here)

Yep, those Bills teams were loaded on both sides of the ball. We did seem to split with them during the regular season, so, give the Don and Danny kudos for that, but the playoffs are a different animal. Your flaws are exposed.

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