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Of the 5 starting rookie quarterbacks, Tannehill only has 2 years starting experience. He needs time, but there are times when you can see that he's going to be really good.

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ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer believes Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill is going to be "an absolute rock star in this league, but it may take a little bit longer than some other places."

"Is he going to struggle, even next year? Absolutely, he's going to struggle a little bit," Dilfer said. "They're not an overly talented offense. Because of that, it's harder for the quarterback to be successful." Rotoworld's Chris Wesseling still ranks Tannehill higher than fellow rookies Russell Wilson or Brandon Weeden in Dynasty formats.


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i think that's how alot of us view Tannehill's situation. In the long run I think he will be better than Wilson and would not be shocked if he has a better long-term career than RG3.


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ESPN’s Trent Dilfer says Dolphins need to stick with Chad Henne


Just a headline from 2011.

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FINesse wrote:
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ESPN’s Trent Dilfer says Dolphins need to stick with Chad Henne


Just a headline from 2011.


Haha ... Seriously look at his quote:

"I think the franchise would take a giant step backward if they started over and went and got another rookie,” Dilfer said recently on SportsCenter."

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Dilfer has about 21 QB's in his top 5 list, so I never get excited when he has something positive to say.

That said I think he is right when he says it will take longer with Ryan.


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YES!!! Thanks Dilfer. All our prayers are answered RT is gonna be the man. Book it.


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Phins Rock wrote:
Dilfer has about 21 QB's in his top 5 list, so I never get excited when he has something positive to say.


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Show me TD's and W's. Anything else is just much ado about nothing.

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Show me TD's and W's. Anything else is just much ado about nothing.

LOL Rock but you are talking about the guy that broke Marinos rookie records.

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i think that's how alot of us view Tannehill's situation. In the long run I think he will be better than Wilson and would not be shocked if he has a better long-term career than RG3.


Based upon the whole situation, I think Tannehill will easily have a better career and more W's than RGIII. Barring injury of course.


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Makchell wrote:
Time will tell.


Exactly right. I suspect had we drafted RG3 or Wilson opinions would be that they will have the longer & more fruitful career.

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Exactly right. I suspect had we drafted RG3 or Wilson opinions would be that they will have the longer & more fruitful career.

Of course. The "debate" goes that the SKins and Hawks have more talent, but the truth is, they both had losing seasons last year like us. The difference is that they got QBs that can ball, we got a project and the jury is still out.


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it's funny how Ryan Tannehill gets more respect from non-Dolphin fans


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swerve13 wrote:
it's funny how Ryan Tannehill gets more respect from non-Dolphin fans

I just think its because us Dolphin fans have seen this QB act for quite some time now. I really enjoy this forum but forgive me if I am a bit pessimistic about coming here & reading why we are going to win with every QB from Jay Fiedler to Ryan Tannehill & of course all those in between. I know the perception here by some is if you dont like the owner or the QB you are a traitor but I am at the point where this team needs to prove itself to me again , not jumping ship , just facing reality.

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it's funny how Ryan Tannehill gets more respect from non-Dolphin fans

Who disrespected RT? Comments like he's a project and time will tell is disrespectful?


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FINesse wrote:
Exactly right. I suspect had we drafted RG3 or Wilson opinions would be that they will have the longer & more fruitful career.


Could you imagine the bashing people would be doing on here if those two guys put up the numbers Tanny is this year?

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Rock Sexton wrote:
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Exactly right. I suspect had we drafted RG3 or Wilson opinions would be that they will have the longer & more fruitful career.


Could you imagine the bashing people would be doing on here if those two guys put up the numbers Tanny is this year?


About the same amount Tannehill is getting...?

Maybe more with RG3 because he was more highly touted coming out.


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About the same amount Tannehill is getting...?

Maybe more with RG3 because he was more highly touted coming out.


We definitely wouldn't be hearing the "Give him a couple years" themed responses.

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Something tells me if Dilfer came out and said he just doesn't see it with Tannehill and that Miami made a mistake we'd be hearing a few folks here saying that Dilfer is a great analyst and he knows better than us.

Isn't this topic old by now? What answer do people expect to have this week or next week? I feel like this is the same conversation under a different topic title with the same people every week. No one has proven anyone on either side of the conversation wrong.

I think the biggest topic for the Dolphins the rest of this year is Jonathan Martin. If he shows something then they just increased the power of their wallets in free agency and took a huge need off of the table in the draft.


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Rock Sexton wrote:
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About the same amount Tannehill is getting...?

Maybe more with RG3 because he was more highly touted coming out.


We definitely wouldn't be hearing the "Give him a couple years" themed responses.


Anybody who would be saying that about RG3 would be stupid.


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Its gonna be fun to watch RG3 to see if he just becomes another running QB who did not win or sets a new precedent I suspect he will be successful & he & Luck will have the same rivalry as Manning & Brady.

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Something tells me if Dilfer came out and said he just doesn't see it with Tannehill and that Miami made a mistake we'd be hearing a few folks here saying that Dilfer is a great analyst and he knows better than us.

Isn't this topic old by now? What answer do people expect to have this week or next week? I feel like this is the same conversation under a different topic title with the same people every week. No one has proven anyone on either side of the conversation wrong.

I think the biggest topic for the Dolphins the rest of this year is Jonathan Martin. If he shows something then they just increased the power of their wallets in free agency and took a huge need off of the table in the draft.



exactly. It seems like fans are almost praying he fails. We're becoming like Boston Red Sox fans. Enjoying disappointment.


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Something tells me if Dilfer came out and said he just doesn't see it with Tannehill and that Miami made a mistake we'd be hearing a few folks here saying that Dilfer is a great analyst and he knows better than us.

Isn't this topic old by now? What answer do people expect to have this week or next week? I feel like this is the same conversation under a different topic title with the same people every week. No one has proven anyone on either side of the conversation wrong.

I think the biggest topic for the Dolphins the rest of this year is Jonathan Martin. If he shows something then they just increased the power of their wallets in free agency and took a huge need off of the table in the draft.



I doubt it. Probably some people would be saying that Dilfer jumped the gun and it is to early to tell about the rookie with limited playing experience. He has shown some good things and needs to make some improvements.

What are the two sides of the conversation?


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Something tells me if Dilfer came out and said he just doesn't see it with Tannehill and that Miami made a mistake we'd be hearing a few folks here saying that Dilfer is a great analyst and he knows better than us.

Isn't this topic old by now? What answer do people expect to have this week or next week? I feel like this is the same conversation under a different topic title with the same people every week. No one has proven anyone on either side of the conversation wrong.

I think the biggest topic for the Dolphins the rest of this year is Jonathan Martin. If he shows something then they just increased the power of their wallets in free agency and took a huge need off of the table in the draft.



exactly. It seems like fans are almost praying he fails. We're becoming like Boston Red Sox fans. Enjoying disappointment.


Jammer, should I get him, or are you going to take care of this one?


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Something tells me if Dilfer came out and said he just doesn't see it with Tannehill and that Miami made a mistake we'd be hearing a few folks here saying that Dilfer is a great analyst and he knows better than us.

Isn't this topic old by now? What answer do people expect to have this week or next week? I feel like this is the same conversation under a different topic title with the same people every week. No one has proven anyone on either side of the conversation wrong.

I think the biggest topic for the Dolphins the rest of this year is Jonathan Martin. If he shows something then they just increased the power of their wallets in free agency and took a huge need off of the table in the draft.



I doubt it. Probably some people would be saying that Dilfer jumped the gun and it is to early to tell about the rookie with limited playing experience. He has shown some good things and needs to make some improvements.

What are the two sides of the conversation?


Look, as much as people try to play it down the middle with their comments its very obvious who is okay with giving Tannehill a year to learn under fire and who thinks Matt Moore got robbed of his chance. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to read between the lines.

And I disagree, I think people would be pointing out that as an NFL QB Dilfer knows what he is talking about. The Henne example wasn't so much him thinking Henne is legit but moreso that Miami wouldn't be doing his supporting cast any favors by drafting and starting a rookie when they are A. built to win with a veteran cast and B. dealing with a lockout shortened offseason where Henne knew the playbook and was teaching it to the players.


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Something tells me if Dilfer came out and said he just doesn't see it with Tannehill and that Miami made a mistake we'd be hearing a few folks here saying that Dilfer is a great analyst and he knows better than us.

Isn't this topic old by now? What answer do people expect to have this week or next week? I feel like this is the same conversation under a different topic title with the same people every week. No one has proven anyone on either side of the conversation wrong.

I think the biggest topic for the Dolphins the rest of this year is Jonathan Martin. If he shows something then they just increased the power of their wallets in free agency and took a huge need off of the table in the draft.



exactly. It seems like fans are almost praying he fails. We're becoming like Boston Red Sox fans. Enjoying disappointment.


Jammer, should I get him, or are you going to take care of this one?


I'm a die hard Sox fan and I can say that most don't enjoy misery, they just got used to it and grew increasingly impatient. Sound familiar?

I don't think anyone wants him to fail but I do think they are empowered by the I told you so argument that Miami should have started someone else instead (whether they actually type that or not in their posts). Problem there is the alternatives were just as unproven in this offense and without Marshall's presence.

This offense as a whole wasn't going anywhere unless you had a top 10 QB guiding it. That option wasn't on the table.

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FrustratedFinFan wrote:
Show me TD's and W's. Anything else is just much ado about nothing.


Show tanny a decent o-line, a decent set of receivers, and an overall decently managed franchise and we might see some td's. We may never know how good he is thanks to ineptitude.


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It seems like fans are almost praying he fails

darn it!!! You figured it out. You got me, bro. I hate Rt I hope he fails, I want...uh...ummm, who is a better prospect coming out this year? Umm, uhh. Swerve's world the sequel.


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I think it would help Tannehill to have more talent around him, but he has to make plays too. The QB position is the key to the offense. He had a tall order to fill today, but he missed a lot of key throws today. They might have been tough throws against that defense, but this is the NFL and not A & M. His accuracy has not been good lately.

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Makchell wrote:
It seems like fans are almost praying he fails

darn it!!! You figured it out. You got me, bro. I hate Rt I hope he fails, I want...uh...ummm, who is a better prospect coming out this year? Umm, uhh. Swerve's world the sequel.



seems like you get drunk during games and then spew out garbage on here afterward.


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Makchell wrote:
It seems like fans are almost praying he fails

darn it!!! You figured it out. You got me, bro. I hate Rt I hope he fails, I want...uh...ummm, who is a better prospect coming out this year? Umm, uhh. Swerve's world the sequel.



and before you throw a crying fit remember you're the one who keeps singling me out and putting me in the crosshairs


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Dilfer is a moron. I'd much rather listen to someone like Steve Young or Dan Marino. They tend to be a little more careful when they endorse a guy.


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seems like you get drunk during games and then spew out garbage on here afterward.

darn...got me again. NOT! I was actually at the Eagles Bucs game and I drove! Got back around 6:15, watched the Fins 49ers via Tivo and didn't have a drop to drink all day! Wrong again Swerve, but it's your world, remember?.


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There is something odd about a guy named "swerve" calling another guy a drunk....

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There is something odd about a guy named "swerve" calling another guy a drunk....

Right? WTHeck? lol


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Rick wrote:
Show tanny a decent o-line, a decent set of receivers, and an overall decently managed franchise and we might see some td's. We may never know how good he is thanks to ineptitude.


This argument has grown so tiresome. Same crap we've been hearing for years.

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Rock Sexton wrote:
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Show tanny a decent o-line, a decent set of receivers, and an overall decently managed franchise and we might see some td's. We may never know how good he is thanks to ineptitude.


This argument has grown so tiresome. Same crap we've been hearing for years.



Yep.....it is like that Talking Heads tune...."Same as it ever was.....same as it ever was...."

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About the same amount Tannehill is getting...?

Maybe more with RG3 because he was more highly touted coming out.


We definitely wouldn't be hearing the "Give him a couple years" themed responses.


That is a ridiculous comparison. Three very different players, running three very different offenses, on three very different teams. You can compare their stats all you want, but the bottom line is each guy is in a very different and unique situation. In my opinion Tannehill is being asked to do more with less.

Not only that but you have to consider that these are three very different fan bases. Look at Seattle and Washington, the stands are full, even when they're not winning. Look at Miami's, the stands are just about always empty. There was a time about ten plus years ago when Miami could pack the house, but that time is long gone. The organization is different, the team is different, and the entire fan base and general vibe is different.

I've been a Dolphins fan long enough to know that half of our fan base is pissed off at the world and extremely jaded. Jaded to the point where they're quick to dismiss anyone who is anything less that spectacular right out of the shoot. It's why we're on our sixth head coach since Shula and it's why we've torn through countless quarterbacks since Marino.

There is a reason some people on these boards keep preaching patience (especially in year one), it's because patience leads to consistency, consistency leads to stability, and stability usually leads to winning. Impatience leads to inconsistency, inconsistency leads to a lack of stability, and a lack of stability over a long time leads to what we have right now. People need to chill the heck out and let the kid/team develop.


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FrustratedFinFan wrote:
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Show tanny a decent o-line, a decent set of receivers, and an overall decently managed franchise and we might see some td's. We may never know how good he is thanks to ineptitude.


This argument has grown so tiresome. Same crap we've been hearing for years.



Yep.....it is like that Talking Heads tune...."Same as it ever was.....same as it ever was...."


A pissed off jaded Dolphins fan fresh off a loss says what?


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