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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:12 am 
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Greg Camarillo, despite whatever shortcomings he has in his game, is nothing if not dependable. He didn't drop a pass in 2009 in tying for the NFL lead in drop percentage at zero. You cannot get better than zero drop percentage.

Camarillo had 50 catches on the season without a flub.

Pro Football Focus defines a drop as when a receiver gets his hands on a ball, but drops a pass you would reasonably expect to be caught.


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Greg Camarillo, who was one of three players not to drop any passes.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:14 am 
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Looking at that list, I hate it we traded Chambers. I know he had drop problems at times, but he also seemed to have a new OC every year. Does anyone remember who we drafted with that 2nd round pick we got for him?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:42 am 
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Man look at Reggie Wayne... 100 catches, 3 drops...


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4th down and the game on the line, you throw to Camarillo. He is solid and obviously extremely reliable. Smart guy from Stanford studies film like crazy and compensates for any short comings of speed.


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Big Dave wrote:
Looking at that list, I hate it we traded Chambers. I know he had drop problems at times, but he also seemed to have a new OC every year. Does anyone remember who we drafted with that 2nd round pick we got for him?


Wasn't it Beck or Satele?


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Big Dave wrote:
Looking at that list, I hate it we traded Chambers. I know he had drop problems at times, but he also seemed to have a new OC every year. Does anyone remember who we drafted with that 2nd round pick we got for him?


Wasn't it Beck or Satele?


Nope ... Henne (pick #57)


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Nope ... Henne (pick #57)


Oh. I'd trade Henne for Chambers, so, Parcells made the best of that trade.

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Nope ... Henne (pick #57)


Oh. I'd trade Henne for Chambers, so, Parcells made the best of that trade.


Chambers netted Henne.

Satele was the result of the Welker deal.

Taylor netted Pat White.

I can't even remember who we got for dealing Satele, I just know it was a 6th round pick.


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Camarillo probably deserves more credit than he gets, but while reliable he isnt explosive and will never be considered a huge threat. I always thought he would make trade bait as he would be perfect for a team that needs a solid possession guy to go with an established number 1.


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Camarillo probably deserves more credit than he gets, but while reliable he isnt explosive and will never be considered a huge threat. I always thought he would make trade bait as he would be perfect for a team that needs a solid possession guy to go with an established number 1.



+1 exactly how i saw it ,with emergence of hartline i thought cam could be shipped?


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Told ya'll he had some of the best hands in the league. That's just it too...every single one of those 50 catches were with his hand. Not like Ted Ginn having the ball pop off his chest every catch.

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Finhead wrote:
Smart guy from Stanford studies film like crazy.


Are you assuming this because he played at Stanford, or do you have proof of this.

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jammer wrote:
Big Dave wrote:
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Nope ... Henne (pick #57)


Oh. I'd trade Henne for Chambers, so, Parcells made the best of that trade.




I can't even remember who we got for dealing Satele, I just know it was a 6th round pick.



wasn't Jake Grove part of that deal...?

....or had Oakland already cut him, and we just took advantage of them (like the Patsises always do) in convincing them to give us a pick for someone we would have likely dumped anyway???

Either way, we probably got the better end of that deal, as Satele is undersized for a Parcells/Sparano O-Line

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Grove was an FA.


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Bones wrote:
wasn't Jake Grove part of that deal...?


No.
Swapped 4th rounder, and got a 6th....netting Brian Hartline and Andrew Gardner.

Grove was signed as a Free Agent.

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So in essence, we traded Satale and Chambers for Grove, Henne, Gardner and Hartline.

I'd say that looks pretty smart to me.


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Iowa:

I mentioned that he studies film like crazy as over the years of reading articles on Camarillo that he works very hard on film study (as I am sure most NFL professionals should) and perhaps more so than a lot of folks do looking at defense coverages etc.

I only mentioned the Stanford remark as obviously you need to be a cerebral type person to get in that university and attain a degree as it is one of the more top college education programs.

Really the overall point I was making is that Camarillo is a smart guy who really studies the game and translates that to being extremely reliable on the field.


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Iowafin wrote:
Told ya'll he had some of the best hands in the league.


The couple of sure-handed receivers we had were Orande Gadsden and Wes Welker. I loved those guys. Camarillo is definitely a keeper. Besides, I can still see him running to the end zone in overtime averting an 0-16 for us.

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jammer wrote:
Big Dave wrote:
diamonddodger wrote:

Nope ... Henne (pick #57)


Oh. I'd trade Henne for Chambers, so, Parcells made the best of that trade.


Chambers netted Henne.

Satele was the result of the Welker deal.

Taylor netted Pat White.

I can't even remember who we got for dealing Satele, I just know it was a 6th round pick.


Donald Thomas?

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Bones wrote:
as Satele is undersized for a Parcells/Sparano O-Line


Satele - 6'3" 300 lbs
Grove - 6'4" 300 lbs

Mammoth difference.

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Camarillo didn't look like much of an ivy leaguer when he tossed that pass out of bounds and was penalized for it...

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Rich wrote:
Donald Thomas?


As I mentioned before...Andrew Gardner.

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