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AQNOR
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 linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
Quote: K.C. Joyner, a.k.a. The Football Scientist, wonders.
Joyner has graded every snap of both players and concludes Dansby will be an improvement on Ayodele … just how much remains to be seen.
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But in an article last Friday in ESPN.com’s Insider section (here’s the link, but you may not be able to read it), Joyner wrote that Dansby historically is only a bit better than Ayodele at stopping the run.
Dansby wins his match-ups at the point of attack at a rate of just 5 percent higher than Ayodele, who won 21-percent of his POA battles in 2009 - a solid number, Joyner said.
The difference might translate to five to eight stops a season.
As Joyner noted in an e-mail exchange, “there is just so much impact an ILB can have on things.”
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedaily ... r-upgrade/
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joeschmoe
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
Channing is pretty good at the run, and from what I've seen and heard, Dansby is good in coverage. Even Antrelle Rolle, who was on with Joe Rose this morning, said that in Arizona they would drop Dansby back to safety and have Rolle move up in the LB spot and they never missed a beat. Hopefully they will create a nice duo.
Regardless, if we don't have a solid NT to clog things up we are gonna have trouble even if we had Ray Lewis.
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MTFan
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
The biggest improvement I see is in coverage. Dansby seems to be dang good in zone or man.
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phinsfansc
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
Don't want to knock Mr. Joyner and all of his scientific looks into football, but I do believe Dansby will be a nice upgrade.
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AQNOR
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
Quote: Hmm. I think the Dansby signing was good and necessary for setting up the rest of the off-season moves. Plus, the comparison doesn't work from my view.
Ayodele has played eight years and has 9.5 sacks, 7 interceptions and 18 passes defensed. He has 71, 75 and 57 tackles the last three years.
Dansby has played six years and has 25.5 sacks, 25 passes defensed and 10 interceptions. He has 109, 119 and 97 tackles* (corrected) the past three years.
So it's hard to see them as the same player. Dansby has shown more versatility and impact. Here's a telling stat: Dansby has seven forced fumbles in the past three years. Ayodele has one. (Channing Crowder also has one.)
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/ ... l+blogs%29
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10acjed
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
Joyner obviously hasnt a clue...
Karlos Dansby is not an upgrade over Ayodele?
Cue up some 2009 footage of Ayodele in coverage....
And the stats dont lie... just compare the two... Throw Crowders stats in there while your at it...
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Rusjen
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
Dansby is the kind of linebacker that makes the QB think. He has a certain level of intimidation to him. That can't be graded.
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dolphinjim
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
I heard in the last 3 years Dansby forced 7 fumbles, Crowder and Ayodele, 1 each.
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Gentlax13
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
I think the biggest difference is that Dansby is a smart player who calls the right adjustments and is almost never out of position.
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Iceberg85
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 Re: linebacker Karlos Dansby might not be a major upgrade
whoever wrote this obviously did not watch akin give up 20 yard passes to the TE ALL YEAR LONG across the middle
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