dont forget the other set of stats


homicides 1


no thank you

Pass on the convicts please!

He has never been a standout or top WR on the teams he has played on...

I dont think he is any better than Camarillo/Hartline/Bess

His numbers are no better than the guys we already have.

Not an upgrade anywhere.

Sign him & give him the chance. He was a stand up guy on the accident. He made a mistake & took the responsibility for it.

A little on the injury prone side, but he is better than what Miami has currently. Plus I'd say he will come back with a little more heart.

I actually said "yes". What he did was very wrong, but I've been in cars during my college days where the driver had been drinking a few. It could have happened to them, too.

I like his yards per catch. That's stands out to me more than what we have as receivers. He seems to be trying to right the wrong that he did as much as he can.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO... If you are going to get a FA WR, get one WORTH GETTING! (Marshall).

Forgive me but I do feel that every person deserves a second chance. And I am confident Donte will get his. I just hope he doesn't turn into another Leonard Little. If he drinks and drives again, ever, his license should be permanently revoked. I don't know if thats the law, it's a personal feeling of mine.

Give him another chance if he shows he is truly remorseful, which I believe he has. I just don't see the point of adding him to our roster, performancewise. Especially considering the accident happened in Miami, I think that would be a huge media issue, that we don't need.

Atlanta didn't want Vick back, and that mess didn't even happen in their back yard.

PS.

We don't need another fast guy who can't reliably catch the ball much less one that's been out of the game for a year.

As of right now Marshall is not going to be a FA, so until he becomes one then you had better look at other options.

It should be revoked the minute you're caught drunk driving...what's the law on someone that uses a gun to kill someone? Do they get to keep their gun permit?
It's dumb enough to get drunk, let alone crawl behind the wheel of a car (which is a lethal weapon). I'm all for second chances, yes, but I feel like Vick got it worse off than Stallworth, and Stallworth killed a man...not some dogs.
Yes, killing dogs is wrong, but those dogs don't have families grieving for their loss every day from here on out. Am I lessening the life of a dog? Considering that one of their years is 7 of ours...yes, yes I am.

Im drunk right now

What he did was not homicide.

That being said, I wouldn't sign him unless again like Chris Chambers, we aren't way down the list of guys.

Are we this desperate??


BTW - everybody does deserve a second chance but make no mistake he got a deal that the average person would not have gotten because he was able to pay up to the victms family.
Also I would think Miami might not be the best place for him.

Maybe Cecil Coillins & Lawrence Phillips can work out some kind of work release .. how bout them.

The reason I'm willing is simple. He called the police. He took responsibility. He pleaded guilty. Yes, he paid the daughter money & she was alright with that. It set her up for what should be for life.

His BAL was .12. which is not off the chart. So he was driving sloppy drunk & most of us do not realize how few drinks it takes to get to that level. Remember at one time .1 was the legal limit

If memory serves me correct. Didn't the man run out in front of him trying to catch a bus? If so, then had Stallworth not been legally drunk, might have not have been at fault.

To compare him to Vick is off base IMO. Vick made a long term commitment to killing dogs. Stallworth ( Who has never been in trouble ) made a short sighted decision to drive, thinking he was alright & at .12 I'm sure he was not that bad off.

Also to compare Collins & Phillips up is just asinine.

Sure, he deserves a second chance, I don't think thats the argument... the argument is, his talent level is no higher than the guys we got!!

His talent level is worlds above what Miami has. His hamstrings are another story.

Worlds?? What Donte Stallworth were you watching, I must have missed something.

Speaks more to the lack of talent in Miami's Wr corp.

When Stallworth is on he can be a productive Wr. The problem with Stallworth is he normally has been in the shop to much.

My last comment before this has to move to the political chat lol
You can't compare aiming a gun and willfully pulling the trigger with a drunk driving accident. And what about self defense. There's a myriad (Big Word) of reasons someone should keep their permit if they use their gun. Besides, I think in Florida they have to wait three years then can reapply, I could be wrong I live in Birmingham Alabama now, where they give you a gun when you enter the state

Yes, I wasn't asking rhetorically, it was a legitimate question. I wasn't sure how that worked. However, I think you can compare the two. He willfully got drunk and got behind the wheel. No if's and's or but's...it's because we don't take drunk driving that seriously that people end up getting killed like this. If we compare a DUI charge the same as attempted murder, I think you'd see a serious decline in the number of them, because it is a choice to drink and drive. Those that think you're drunk and don't know any better shouldn't be getting drunk in the first place.

there are much better options that we ought to pursue first.

I dont think hell ever want to come to miami again. Yeah right but no serious no not very product in his last couple of years. I dont think he really had good year since he left NO or NE one of the 2

my thoughts exactly. if we signed stallworth then that means we are pretty desperate and alot will have to go wrong in order to consider a guy whohas not produced in the capacity we require

I would take a chance on him with a low risk contract with very little up front.

As far as the second chance, I'm on the side that everyone deserves one. I have driven before when I knew I should not have back when I was young and stupid. I thought I was invincible; accidents only happened to other people.

Then my father was killed by a drunk driver who fell asleep at the wheel. I can't speak for the guy's daughter, but I didn't want the girl who killed my Dad to be punished forever. I just wanted and still want her to think about him everyday and remember what she took from my family.

If Donte is truly sorry and is making amends, then I think he should be allowed to play again.

Wow! I'm truly sorry for your loss. Due to your experience you offer a unique perspective on the Stallworth case.

It speaks volumes about your character that you don't wish malice upon the person who took someone so close to you.

Need a few "tense" corrections in your post. "His talent level "was" (not is) worlds above what Miami "presently" has.

Maybe we could get Stallworth and Plaxico and they could share a cell, I mean locker together>

I will agree to giving any man a second chance but it won't be for this team

my condolences as well.I agree with the shot at second chances at life as i have benefited heavily from it myself after almost doing life in prison for doing stupid bone-head things in my teen and early adult years (armed robberies and such), one after another. Fortunately for me there was still hope for me once i matured and got my head outta the south end of a north bound donkey. i personally am grateful for all those that have the courage not to be overly judgmental, such as tornado here. I do feel like such a horse's arse bout the people i have victimized, but on the same note and token i don't always expect to be shown love as too many people read a book by it's cover and see some one 6'2" 275 lbs and tatted down and think gang related trash. Sad to say, thats just the way it is, but oh well i made my bed now i gotta lie in it i reckon.
As for stallworth, i do think he should be allowed to play, just not for us, as it is my opinion that his skills would not be a tremendous upgrade to what we're currently working with. I wouldn't be against bringing him in however and trying him out in the preseason just to be sure though.

That was friggin' hilarious Mikey!!
I'm gonna have to borrow that one!!

my apologize Vehicular Manslaughter via Drunk Driver

thanks, be my guest bro.

Thanks for the kind words Bones.


And Mikey, without waxing too religious, my old sunday school teacher always told us that it didn't matter where we were in life, it only mattered that we were headed in the right direction. Good luck staying in the opposite direction of that donkey's ass.



I too think a pre-season try out would be the way to go with Stallworth. No risk. It is worth a shot and it couldn't hurt anything. Most people thought Moss was washed up after his stay in Oakland. Sometimes all it takes it a change of scenery.

With a year under his belt, the Dolphins should trust Henne to go deep more frequently. It will be a shame if he has no one to throw it to.

I feel ya man, I lost my sister to a drunk driver when I was 16. Do I wish harm on him? No, I just have extreme bitterness for anyone that thinks drunk driving is an accident. Falling off a ladder is an accident. Getting behind a steering wheel when you're drunk is a choice. Was there intent to kill someone? No, but it's like pointing a loaded gun at people when you're hopped up on caffeine; at any moment the finger can slip and someone is dead. What Stallworth did, what that lady did, and that guy did was truly moronic...

thanks tornado, i appreciate it.

aside from the Vehicular Manslaughter, I don't really want him because he is basically an older version of Ted Ginn.

Great idea! And maybe we could pick up David Boston and start both of these guys... we'd have the most reliable WR tandem in the league!