I put this in Dolphin talk because we play them this year...thoughts?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... ule=HP_cp2

I've always been a fan of Ochocinco, and never thought he was the primadonna that he often portrays himself as...he's fun and plays well and I think he's great for the league, and considering his background he's had a remarkable turn.

Owens, however, pisses me off...and I hate to see Owens linked to Chad as "friends" and what not....because it makes it seem like they are the same player. Owens is all about me, very arrogant about it, and burns bridges. There was a time where Chad complained and said he wanted out, but in the end he reconciled his differences with the Bengals and still plays there..while sometimes selfish, he's been humbled.

T.O. has never been humbled.

I like the match. Carson Palmer has a lot of experiance with mouthy, show-boat, super-stud recievers. Look to that offense with Palmer to Owens/Ocho and Cedric in the back to power through the top 5 this year.

You're not so bad, Iowa;)

Is it possible that TO realizes he isn't the best player on the field now? If so, he'll do a good job in Cincinnati. Let's hope our secondary will be up for the task as they have 3 good receivers now and a good quarterback to get them the ball.

A decent team just got a bit better. TO knows its his last go round , I dont think he will be a distraction but its not like the signing has put the Bengals over the top.

I think Dan Marino and Drew Brees are good examples that you can have all the offense you want, but if your defense is in the bottom half of the league you're not going anywhere in January.

Make it 4 Dave... I'm expecting Jordan Shipley to make a splash there in Cincy.

Also their defense isn't half bad. Arguably the best CB duo in the league, and a LB core that really came together last year.

Going to be a tough battle w/ the Ravens, Steelers and Bengals in that division.

No doubt. Shipley might get tons of reps because neither TO, Ocho or Bryant are slot guys while Texas is.

They have good talent on D, a good DC, a very good QB with weapons and a mauling run game. They've got one of the more complete teams in the league.

Some how, I have a feeling Marvin Lewis will find a way to make them under-achieve again.

TO is definitely not the player he once was but he can still be dangerous. I must admit that I am glad that he did not sign with either the jets or patsies.

With the QB issues in Pitt I think that Cinci and Baltimore fight it out for that division. Thing is, with Boldin now in Baltimore, I don't know who wins. AFC is getting tough...

Thats exactly it Ski... this division will come down to QB play.

Steelers could still win it if Palmer (very likely) and Flacco (yet to be seen but who knows) take a nose dive... they're only 4 games without Big Ben right?

I told him, "Ya know T.O., there are better people out there to focus on. Go away."

So he did, and trashed Brian Hartline's truck...Rosenhaus called Hartline and said he could make it all go away if he signed with him...Hartline still doesn't know who trashed it.