If your not able to distinguish the difference between being traded to another team when you don't have a 'no trade clause' in your contract, and becoming a free agent and arranging beforehand where you and 2 other big name free agents will play, then I guess I'm done discussing this.
Purely speculative on your part that this was arranged beforehand. It was discussed at the Olympics by the three players as one of those crazy "what if" scenarios but none of these guys imagined it could really actually happen.
And sure there is a difference, but it is minutia. The fact of the matter is that Garnett wanted out of Minnesota after several years of frustration. He probably wanted out of Minnesota more than James wanted out of Cleveland. Garnett had done his crying, hyperemotional "I don't know if I can take this anymore" routine several times in wanting to get out of the Minnesota. Garnett was even allowed to negotiate an extension with Boston for 3 years $60 million (more money per year than James will make) before any trade was excuted. Garnett was allowed to pick where to go, much like James, and then the teams did what they had to do to make it happen.
The only difference is that in Garnett's case, the Timberwolves had more control of the situation than the Cavs did. But in the end, both players got traded in sign and trades to the teams they wanted to be on.
Anyone with an objective eye can see that there is a difference. I really don't care if the example is the Celtics or anybody, there are obvious differences.
And anyone with the facts and rudimentary knowledge of NBA transactions can see that the difference is minimal.
I know this is difficult for you as your a Heat fan and therefore feel bound to defend the honor of your new players, but it is what it is.
I know this is difficult for you as you admittedly tend to give opinions without knowing all the facts (see Obama/BP thread). I don't feel there is anything that needs defending. James was a free agent. He did what he felt was right. I see nothing wrong with that. If James had resigned and then his skills declined rapidly, perhaps due to injury, Cleveland would have done what it could to unload him, loyalty be damned. Hey, they had a coach who lead them to two consecutive 60 win seasons and they dumped the guy on his butt. James did what so many players wait til they are in their 30s to do. He signed on with other top players. Charles Barkley is criticizing him for it, but Dwayne Wade astutely pointed out that Charles Barkley joined Olajuwan and Pippen on the Houston Rockets late in his career to try and win a championship. Barkley waited til it was too late.
Smart kid if you ask me.
The only thing I disagreed with James on was the stupid "Decision" special. I disliked the idea when it was announce and still do. Of course, you again with your tendency to give opinions without knowing all the facts, didn't know that or didn't bother to ask and therefore have already labeled me as an unobjective fan defending the honor of our new player simply because I'm a fan. Nevermind my history of going against the grain and being very objective on these forums in regards to a team I love even more than the Heat...
P.S., you said in the end all three players got traded. Pierce was always a Celtic and remains a Celtic.
Try to follow along. I meant Garnett, Allen and James. I never mentioned Pierce.
And for what it's worth, Boston gave up quite a bit to get those two guys.
So did the Heat for James and Bosh. The Heat virtually have no draft picks for the next half decade. If any of these guys don't work out or get seriously injured, the Heat has mortgaged its future heavily on them.
Also, if you see the players Boston gave up to get Garnett (measuring their productivity at the time) it was a bunch of shleps for an All star.
On July 31, 2007, Kevin Garnett was traded to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, cash considerations, Boston's 2009 first-round draft pick (top 3 protected) and the 2009 first-round pick Minnesota had traded to Boston in the Ricky Davis-Wally Szczerbiak trade of 2006.
The only guy worth a lick on that list turned out to be Al Jefferson and he had been an injury prone one year wonder to that point.
Aignes worked his butt off to build that team, and the Celtics paid and were rewarded.
And Riley didn't? Riley has been planning and executing this since 2008, picking up big expiring contracts (Jermaine O'neal for example) so that he could position the Heat to have the cap space necessary to make this happen. This didn't happen overnight.
Sounds like your opining on things without knowing all the facts again...