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Who will win the NBA Finals?
Lakers 63%  63%  [ 15 ]
Celtics 38%  38%  [ 9 ]
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No way Kobe loses to the same team in the finals twice, he's too good.

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Personally, I hope the Celtics sweep the Lakers.

GO CELTICS!

And no, I'm not even a basketball fan.

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My honest prediction, Celtics in 6 games.


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Personally, I hope the Celtics sweep the Lakers.

GO CELTICS!

And no, I'm not even a basketball fan.

LOL!


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No way Kobe loses to the same team in the finals twice, he's too good.


The way I see it, Kobe is at the point where he is legitimately in the conversation for the greatest Laker of all time. For him to be elevated ahead of Magic, Kareem, West, etc., he has to beat the Celtics. Once he does that, he is the clear cut number one Laker of all time and I think the Kobe vs. Jordan debate is officially on.
Jordan wins based on on/off court ethics, number of titles and originality.

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Kobe pulls a Lebron and the Celtics win the series.


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Now that my beloved Magic are out of it I will be rooting for the Lakers to hopefully expose another cry baby team from Boston!


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Celtics in 6.

And no way, even if he wins this finals, is Kobe on par with Magic yet. I understand there is a debate, but its a poor one. Magic was magic, Kobe is stellar, but I still think he legitimately belongs behind Magic. Take it from someone who watched Magic and Bird battle in the day. ;)


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Phins Rock wrote:
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No way Kobe loses to the same team in the finals twice, he's too good.


The way I see it, Kobe is at the point where he is legitimately in the conversation for the greatest Laker of all time.


He's in the discussion of greatest player of all-time. I think he's got all-time Laker in the bag.

Lakers will beat the Celtics in 5.

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Celtics in 6.

And no way, even if he wins this finals, is Kobe on par with Magic yet. I understand there is a debate, but its a poor one. Magic was magic, Kobe is stellar, but I still think he legitimately belongs behind Magic. Take it from someone who watched Magic and Bird battle in the day. ;)


There is no comparison between Kobe and Magic.

Magic was a player who lined up at CENTER for the Lakers once and put up ridiculous numbers. He could play ANY position on the floor and be a superstar at it.

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Heck, I've pulled for the Lakers since Jabbar and Magic (My Arse Got Infected Coach) Johnson were on the team. They've always had dynamic players on their team.

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Phins Rock wrote:
The way they are playing right now, this series doesn't go back to LA for the last 2.

Lakers making it look easy...Kobe is on his game right now man.

Your right, they are just too tall for the Celtics and Garnet looks like he is 100 years old out there. I don't think KG ever came back from his knee injury. Without a solid performance from Garnett, I don't think the Celtics have a shot. I honestly thought this series would come down to Rondo, but it won't matter how well he plays if they don't get some solid play inside. One thing is for sure, the Lakers are much tougher than in 08. While I don't by into 'redemptive' wins (I think 08 was 08 and 2010 is 2010), you can certainly say that the two teams are very much different from two years ago.
Still, all that being said, I look for the Celtics to win the next game and make a series of it. Really if they can split the first two in LA, they will be in great shape. They are going to have to drastically improve though if they want a shot at winning even a single game.


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Rich wrote:
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Celtics in 6.

And no way, even if he wins this finals, is Kobe on par with Magic yet. I understand there is a debate, but its a poor one. Magic was magic, Kobe is stellar, but I still think he legitimately belongs behind Magic. Take it from someone who watched Magic and Bird battle in the day. ;)


There is no comparison between Kobe and Magic.

Magic was a player who lined up at CENTER for the Lakers once and put up ridiculous numbers. He could play ANY position on the floor and be a superstar at it.

I was thinking the same thing when Magic had to play Center......I want to say that happened in the playoffs right?

Kobe is one of the greatest Lakers of all-time already........probably thee best Shooting Guard the Lakers franchise has ever had.........but not a better overall player than Earvin "Magic" Johnson.


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Ray Allen went crazy that first half... 7/8 from the 3 point line... man is on FIRE!


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Way to go Celtics!


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Lakers may yet end this thing in 5, but I've got a feeling we have ourselves a series. I see Boston with a 3-2 series lead heading back to LA. Lakers in 7. (rooting for Boston in 5 though haha)
Things that concern me as a Boston fan:
1. Garnett still sucking hardcore
2. Ray Allen got hot which is the only reason we were in that game
3. Can't count on Kobe and company to get into foul trouble every game
4. Lakers seem to be able to block shots at will
Boston was lucky tonight to steal that game. As crappy as the Lakers played, I never got the feeling the Celtics played that well either.

One thing for Boston though, LA is nearly impossible to beat at home and Boston did just that tonight. It was truly strength against strength. So the question is, is Boston better at home than LA is on the road? Should be quite interesting.


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Phins Rock wrote:
Phin wrote:
Lakers may yet end this thing in 5, but I've got a feeling we have ourselves a series. I see Boston with a 3-2 series lead heading back to LA. Lakers in 7. (rooting for Boston in 5 though haha)
Things that concern me as a Boston fan:
1. Garnett still sucking hardcore
2. Ray Allen got hot which is the only reason we were in that game
3. Can't count on Kobe and company to get into foul trouble every game
4. Lakers seem to be able to block shots at will
Boston was lucky tonight to steal that game. As crappy as the Lakers played, I never got the feeling the Celtics played that well either.

One thing for Boston though, LA is nearly impossible to beat at home and Boston did just that tonight. It was truly strength against strength. So the question is, is Boston better at home than LA is on the road? Should be quite interesting.


I agree that Boston takes 2 out of 3 at home, and LA wins in 7.

I'm still fired up about the officiating. The NBA needs to add a rule for flopping, badly. 3 out of 5 of Kobe's fouls were complete you-know-what.

Is KG hurt? Exhausted? He's horrible on both ends of the floor right now...

The Lakers are absolutely dominating inside, and I don't see any signs that it will change. I don't think Ray Allen has another game like that, and that said the Lakers 3 point shooting will come around. It's going to come down to Lamar Odom though. He needs to start showing up offensively...


I still stick w/ Boston in 6....

The officiating can be argued both ways though, so don't be giving the "treatment" to just Kobe. It was both sides of the ball, horrible calling last night on things that were clearly BLOCKS, and not fouls. I can recall 2 or 3 blocks that were called fouls against the Celtics... so, it's both sides. Not just the Lakers getting the shaft.

KG needs to get his head right, and into these finals... I don't know what's wrong w/ him.

The Celtics, like they said last night, when they drive and go underneath with that extra pass, they are just as dominant. If they start doing that more often, while the Lakers have the size, Celtics still do well inside when they make that extra pass.... just my .02 though.

I dont see Ray-Ray nailing 8 more 3's in a game either... but they'll have to respect him, regardless.

The Celtics need to start rebounding better... some of the attempts to rebound last night were down right ugly.

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Straight up bet, you create any sig you want me to have, if Lakers win, I create you any sig I want you to have if Celtics win.


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I got a bad feeling about this already.... LOL

LETS GO CELTICS!

P.S. How did you become a Lakers fan, when you LIVE in boston? Same for Miami, wth is up with that lol.


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I've got a couple rolling around in my head as well...

one involves the city of boston in the background w/ Rondo and Pierce....

Or maybe I'll have the city of Boston, that crazy picture you have of yourself ... with Pierce and Rondo....

Oh it's going to be great.


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Phins Rock wrote:

I'm still fired up about the officiating. The NBA needs to add a rule for flopping, badly. 3 out of 5 of Kobe's fouls were complete you-know-what.

1. They do have a no flopping rule which I have seen them enforce a couple times already in the playoffs.
2. Bad calls went both ways, the officials are not letting guys play. Until that changes, expect the bad calls to continue.
3. Kobe is like Jordan in that 95% of the time the calls go his way. He usually complains every single time down the court that he's been fouled. The fact that he had 5 fouls last night is long overdue. The guy gets away with a lot of beneficial calls and no honest Lakers fan can deny that. For what its worth, I thought 1 or 2 of those fouls was iffy, but like I said, the officials are calling this one really tight.


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Phins Rock wrote:
Coots wrote:
I got a bad feeling about this already.... LOL

LETS GO CELTICS!

P.S. How did you become a Lakers fan, when you LIVE in boston? Same for Miami, wth is up with that lol.


My dad is a Dolphins fan, so that's what happened there. He's not really a fan anymore but he grew up watching the 70's teams.

Not 100% sure how I'm a Lakers fan. I have an uncle that lives in LA and he came by to visit in 1999. I figure that he got me into the them, plus the fact that they won 3 straight around that time.

I have 2 possible sigs in my head. One involves Tim Tebow, the other Kobe. :grin:
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K, well... I'm done watching the finals after tonight. If this is the best refs they can come up with, I am sorely disappointed. It was ridiculous, and not just toward the Celtics, but both teams. Bet is still on JP, I'm just not going to watch anymore of the games.


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This is over in 5. This was a must win game tonight. Celtics can't have 1 guy do all the scoring. Ray Allen went from magnificent to a turd tonight. Garnett came alive but got little help. They came back from too far down to fall short at the end; this was a will-breaker if you ask me.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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This is over in 5. This was a must win game tonight. Celtics can't have 1 guy do all the scoring. Ray Allen went from magnificent to a turd tonight. Garnett came alive but got little help. They came back from too far down to fall short at the end; this was a will-breaker if you ask me.


Looks like Pierce's prediction was spot on...except with a little twist?

Who's to say. I expect more from this team. I expect them to pull this out, but I also expected that they wouldn't lose game 3 at home. So whats that say about expectations? They aren't worth a hill of beans unless you go out there and prove your mettle.
I think the officiating has been poor both ways, but it has definitely favored the Lakers up to this point. Who knows though, maybe the next three games the Celtics will get the benefit of poor officiating. I don't think there is any bias or conspiracy, but I do think it has been tilted to one side in terms of bad calls. Its not like the Celtics haven't been aggressive either. Sometimes the aggressive team gets the calls, but I'd say both teams have been equally tenacious.
My level of respect for Gasol has gone through the roof though. I thought he should go back to Europe in 08 because he was so soft. This time around he has elevated his game and become a great player in the process. It's hard to not like a guy like that. He works hard, doesn't get into too much trouble, and he seems to be a class act off the court.

How bout Garnett last night? The guy was a monster. I was hoping the old Garnett would show up. Too bad it wasn't enough.


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To me, in any sport.... basketball, football, soccer, tennis, and even rugby (lol) the refs should be invisible. Not saying they shouldn't be there. But you should leave the game with the feeling that while the refs were there, and did their job, in the end.... it should feel like they had no value in either team having an advantage.

I know it's the nature of the beast, and yes I am a firm believer that Vegas etc. have some stuff to do with the outcomes of "some" games. That's just my .02, and no, I have no proof.... it's just my thoughts.

But meh, hope the Celtics pull out something crazy, but I just can't stomach another game of that type.

P.S. You be so crazy JP.


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Game 4 tonight.......Artest has kept Pierce from doing anything in this series.......this is a must win for the Celts......if they lose this one then they could be done in 5?

This should be a good one.......hoping the refs do not get themselve too involved in the outcome.


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This officiating is pretty dang lopsided for the Lakers. Garnett gets called for 3 second violation when there is 20 seconds left on the shot clock? Sheed gets called for a foul because Gasol fell down on his own without any contact? Yeah, get out of your dream world PR, your smoking crack if you think any game in this series has favored the Celtics for bad calls or fouls.


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3rd quarter right now. I have a feeling from that smirk on his face, the Black Mamba will strike. I wouldn't be surprised to see Kobe put this game on ice in the 4th or nail a game winner.


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Nobody can cover Baby?? WTF?

Phin, there were a couple calls early that went for LA that I scratched my head about, but there have been multiple calls that have not gotten called on Boston that should have. I've counted multiple offensive goaltends that were not called and plenty of 50/50 no calls that were called on LA.

I guess you see what you want.
The 4th foul on Kobe could have been a charge on Pierce and the foul on Allen when Kobe was shooting a 3 was on the follow through and shouldn't have counted. Back to back bad calls, call it a draw.


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LA is the better team, at least they have played better for this series. Boston had a hot Ray Allen, and put together a 4th quarter to even this thing up. For the most part though, its been all LA. The best team doesn't always win, but suspect the Lakers will pull this out in 7. I don't think Boston will lose game 5 at home. I agree, great series.


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Game 5.....

Celtics need another win.....

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Well Celtics up 3-2 heading back to LA. I must say I didn't expect this, Celtics have played much better the past couple games than they started the series. I still think this thing goes 7, but I'm not nearly as certain LA wins this as I was before.
GO CELTS!!!


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well, I personally think the Celtics have to win tomorrow night, if not LA gets the momentum again, and wins game 7.


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Ron Artest is the man isn't he....WTF man.

He was pretty solid against Pierce for 3 of the games. Or was it just Pierce having some off nights? Who knows.....


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I don't think Artest has lost the Lakers any games. Sure he hasn't contributed as much as he could offensively, but like I said, he has done a fairly decent job on Pierce. Face it though, guys like Pierce and Kobe are eventually going to get 'theirs'. You had Tony Allen more or less severely limiting Kobe in one of these games only to get schooled last night. Pure scorers are going to eventually beat the defense. The Lakers lost game 5 for two major reasons: they stopped playing defense as a team, and the rest of the team didn't contribute offensively, instead they more or less stood around and watched Kobe go 'lights out' on Boston. So he scores 38, big deal, the rest of the team has to get involved as well. Pierce scored 27 points last night but it was within the flow of the game, he didn't have to make stuff happen like Kobe did. There were other scorers for Boston besides Pierce. You didn't see Pierce making bad shots because he didn't feel the need to, he could pass up a contested shot in favor of an open teammate. Kobe had to (or at least he felt he needed to) make things happen for his team.
Another thing going against LA is the fact that their bench is nowhere near as good as Bostons. You can see how Kobe and the other starters are getting a little gassed out there in these games. LA needs for their bench to contribute some points. Vuajic, Farmar, and Odom must do more to contribute.
I think Boston HAS TO WIN game 6. No way does LA lose game 7 at home. One thing is for sure, this is a fun series to watch. Still waiting for both teams to play a near perfect game at the same time though.


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Well whenever you lose there is someone who gets special attention for their stupid plays. Had you guys won, little would have been made of those plays. If you want to look hard enough in that game though, you will find other players who made some boneheaded plays as well. Simply put, I don't think Artest's mistakes led to the Lakers losing; it was a team effort (or lack thereof). How about Kobe picking up some stupid fouls? Where did Gasol go? What about Bynum? Where was Derik Fisher for most of the game? See what I mean.....?


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Officiating has been all for LA. However it doesn't matter, Celtics are playing like crap and wouldn't be in this even with the officials calling it even. If Kendrick Perkins is out for the remainder of this series, you can pack it in for the Celtics, they don't have a prayer.


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Game 7 coming up. Never count the Zen-master out;)

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Perkins tore two knee ligaments; might as well start making banner 16 for the Staples Center.
It majorly sucks when your team makes it this far only to have an injury in the final two games keep you from the prize. I just don't see how Boston has a snow balls chance in hell of winning game 7 without the defense of Kendrick Perkins.


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Here we go, game 7.
Seen some bad calls on both sides of the ball so far, but I'm more happy that they are letting them play for the most part.


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