All times are UTC-05:00


Phinfever Home Page

Phinfever Chatroom

Phinfever FAQ




Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:47 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Owner/Admin
Phinfever Owner/Admin

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am
Posts: 12357
Location: Raleigh, NC
Quote:
Dolphins Eyeing O.J. Atogwe?
Mon May 3, 2010
http://www.ffmastermind.com

The Miami Herald reports there is the possibility the Dolphins might be planning to do something with S O.J. Atogwe after June 1. The issue can get complicated but, in a nutshell, Atogwe is a restricted free agent who is not signing his tender. After June 1, the St. Louis Rams must extend his tender to keep him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. But to extend the tender they must pay him 110 percent of his 2009 salary which was $6,342,021. Most observers don't see a way the Rams will extend a new tender of $6,976,223 after June 1. Atogwe simply didn't play up to that level last year after a very good year in 2008. So Atogwe may be hitting the market. And the Dolphins might/should consider the 28-year-old as an option.

_________________
PHINFEVER FACEBOOK - JOIN US!

Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:50 am 
Offline
User avatar
2016 Post Game Blog Writer
2016 Post Game Blog Writer

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:59 am
Posts: 25124
Location: Miami, FL
Could a "report" get more speculative than that?

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:44 am 
Offline
2016 MVP Donor!
2016 MVP Donor!

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:34 am
Posts: 2046
Big Dave wrote:
Quote:
Dolphins Eyeing O.J. Atogwe?
Mon May 3, 2010
http://www.ffmastermind.com

And the Dolphins might/should consider the 28-year-old as an option.


Exactly right, Rich. Might? Should? Why not report when there is some substance to the information, instead of the whole thing being based solely upon the writer's opinion?


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:48 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Owner/Admin
Phinfever Owner/Admin

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am
Posts: 12357
Location: Raleigh, NC
I seriously doubt it. He's going to try to get a nice contract and someone will probably pay it. We have all ready spent a lot of money.

_________________
PHINFEVER FACEBOOK - JOIN US!

Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:55 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever All Pro
Phinfever All Pro

Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:36 pm
Posts: 494
Location: Ruff Buff NY
If his play was only a little better than what we had last year don't get him. We don't need more so so players here, I say we stick with what we got. The new draftee's will bring some good comp to the table, and maybe that will put a fire under some of these guys A..

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:11 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:39 am
Posts: 2061
Location: Houston, Texas
In my opinion, the Dolphins will use the next month of getting more acclimated with Reshad Jones and their feelings towards the confidence level with Clemons and Culver, then perhaps see if they want to go after Atogwe. Personally, money may not be such an issue if they feel he will be their best chance to win.

However, that being said, I would be more inclined to feel that one of their existing guys will win the job.

It is all speculative anyway and Brandon Marshall is a good example of alot of people not seeing that happening and it did.

Physically, Reshad Jones sure does look impressive, in fact, he looks like a beast that can lay the wood and he has great ball skills, so I have high hopes for him to make a positive impact for the Dolphins and hopefully the missing link at safety.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:32 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever All Pro
Phinfever All Pro

Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:35 pm
Posts: 264
Location: Tampa, FL
Rich wrote:
Could a "report" get more speculative than that?

this "report" sounds more like a post of "I sure hope the dolphins sign Atogwe" to me......yet he supposed to be a paid professional? :hithead:


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:05 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever All Pro
Phinfever All Pro

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:19 am
Posts: 258
Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta
Please not another underachieving safety!!..I would hope that a lesson was learned in the Gabril Wilson experiment?..


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:02 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:57 am
Posts: 226
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Despite not having as good a season as the last two I'd say Atogwe is much better than Wilson.

_________________
-
A Dane lost on the internet, crashed here
-


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:43 am 
Offline
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:59 pm
Posts: 5117
Speaking of guys who haven't signed their tender, has Ronnie Brown signed his yet???
As for Atogwe, the guy has talent. But I just don't see it happening. We've got too many good younger guys on the roster that our staff probably want's to see develop. I think the trio of Culver, Clemons, and Jones will be enough to make for a good training camp battle. Whoever comes out on top should do a good job, or at least better than Wilson.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:39 pm 
Offline
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:11 pm
Posts: 9554
Location: Fargo, ND
I'm sure the Jets will sign him anyways. ;)


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:03 pm 
Offline
2016 MVP Donor!
2016 MVP Donor!

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:34 am
Posts: 2046
Phin wrote:
I'm sure the Jets will sign him anyways. ;)


nahh, he's only 28. Now if he were 36, maybe they'd consider him...


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:05 pm
Posts: 188
Too much money, there is 5.5 million from Taylor and Smiley, and there has been some savings from trading out of the #12 to #28, but 7 million plus?

We'd have the highest paid everything from Wr to LT to ILB..sooner or later that is not sustainable.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:55 pm
Posts: 5439
padre31 wrote:
there is 5.5 million from Taylor and Smiley


What?

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:05 pm
Posts: 188
Iowafin wrote:
padre31 wrote:
there is 5.5 million from Taylor and Smiley


What?


They had budgeted 2 million to sign Taylor, and Smiley will be gone one way or another and he is making 3 million to 3.5 million, voila..5.5 million that would have been budgeted for salaries this year that won't be spent.

Toss in Odrick at #28 will save millions over whomever at #12..there is some cash floating around whether they will spend it or not remains to be seen.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:55 pm
Posts: 5439
padre31 wrote:
Iowafin wrote:
padre31 wrote:
there is 5.5 million from Taylor and Smiley


What?


They had budgeted 2 million to sign Taylor, and Smiley will be gone one way or another and he is making 3 million to 3.5 million, voila..5.5 million that would have been budgeted for salaries this year that won't be spent.

Toss in Odrick at #28 will save millions over whomever at #12..there is some cash floating around whether they will spend it or not remains to be seen.


Yet in the same post you said "too much money" and said Miami can't sustain the highest paid WR, LT, RT, and LB. So what're you saying?

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:05 pm
Posts: 188
Iowafin wrote:
there is 5.5 million from Taylor and Smiley


Yet in the same post you said "too much money" and said Miami can't sustain the highest paid WR, LT, RT, and LB. So what're you saying?[/quote][/quote]

A team that has the highest paid players at a majority of their positions is unsustainable, just because there is money available does not mean they will, or should, spend it on one Free Agent.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:55 pm
Posts: 5439
padre31 wrote:
A team that has the highest paid players at a majority of their positions is unsustainable, just because there is money available does not mean they will, or should, spend it on one Free Agent.


So Miami won't sign Otogwe because they already have too many high paid guys, but they have money to spend due to Smiley (who is still on the team) and Jason Taylor, but that's irrelevant so there was no need to bring it up?

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:04 pm 
Offline
Phinfever All Pro
Phinfever All Pro

Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:47 pm
Posts: 290
I'm no NFL personnel wizard, but, I'd rather give a cheaper young guy some "on the job" training for a year than overpay for a "pro" ball player.

It would seem prudent to offer a chance to the best of the Culver-Clemons-Jones triumverate rather than pay $6M+/year for Otogwe. Plus, the Dolphins still have to do something with the Allen Brothers.

There are places on the field to pay top money for the best player. It looks like FS is not one of them for the Dolphins, otherwise they'd have snagged Earl Thomas for big money last month.

Personally, I believe this is a evidence of a writer throwing dots out there to connect, so if something along these lines happens, they can then write about how much they know about football. And, if it doesn't happen, no one remembers what was written.

Good observation on the Ronnie Brown tender. Does anyone have any info about that situation? What are the dates to sign by, and what happens if he doesn't sign or does sign?


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:34 pm 
Offline
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:08 am
Posts: 215
Honestly, Atogwe could be, the Atogwe of old or Gibril Wilson if you know what I mean. I don't wanna take a chance on the later. I'd much rather take my chances with Culver, Clemons, and Jones who could honestly be the best one of the bunch.

We are already one of the youngest teams in the league. Let's not forget that. We should develop our players and not have them looking over their shoulders. Make or break! That's what we need to do.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:05 pm
Posts: 188
Iowafin wrote:
padre31 wrote:
A team that has the highest paid players at a majority of their positions is unsustainable, just because there is money available does not mean they will, or should, spend it on one Free Agent.


So Miami won't sign Otogwe because they already have too many high paid guys, but they have money to spend due to Smiley (who is still on the team) and Jason Taylor, but that's irrelevant so there was no need to bring it up?


FYI.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:40 pm
Posts: 148
Miami wanted Atowge bad last year according to reports. Then the Rams franchised him. Now with the surgery's and all I'm not sure if Miami still has interest. June 1st will be interesting.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:55 pm
Posts: 5439
padre31 wrote:
Iowafin wrote:
padre31 wrote:
A team that has the highest paid players at a majority of their positions is unsustainable, just because there is money available does not mean they will, or should, spend it on one Free Agent.


So Miami won't sign Otogwe because they already have too many high paid guys, but they have money to spend due to Smiley (who is still on the team) and Jason Taylor, but that's irrelevant so there was no need to bring it up?


FYI.


:yay:

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:18 pm 
Offline
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:59 pm
Posts: 5117
I hope we pass on Atogwe, I'd much rather see us continue with our youth movement and develop the young guys we already have.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ] 

All times are UTC-05:00


Phinfever Home Page

Phinfever Chatroom

Phinfever FAQ


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited | Chopped and modified by Coots | Original design by Prosk8r