Fonzy I don't think your post has addressed my post. This does not have to be about Obama. The president of the USA(then candidate) made a charge against two named political opponents. He accused them of trying to scare voters about his differences one of them being his race.
If you can't acknowledge that is playing the race card then what would you call it? I never said he did it all the time. It was not just some vague ephemeral critics of his policy he named names. I wonder if you get that?
In your opinion (AQNOR and maybe some others) what Obama said at that rally was a cheap exploitation of race to condemn any critics of his policy (please tell me if I'm interpreting your perspective correctly).
No you are not interpreting my perspective correctly. He aimed his comments at two specific individuals and told his supporters that "Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, 'He's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, 'He doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills" that is not my opinion that is what he said.
I found in trying to make a case for why people should vote, is that many people (in Ohio at least) did not want to vote for Obama simply because they did not like his race/ethnicity. These comments would come voluntarily, we were not allowed to talk about specific candidates. Some made it very clear using racial slurs, others were calm and collected an presented that perspective eloquently. In other words, there are plenty of people in our country who did not vote for Obama or don't like his policies because of his race, He has received more death threats than any President ever, and many of them are undoubdetly based on race. It's a REAL issue, and although it's not your motivating factor for disliking Obama, it is for many people.
Did you find this to be true about the two people he specifically named? Any evidence at all about them using race to scare anyone about voting for the President of the USA? If not then this section really has no bearing on what I posted.
So in my opinion, for Obama to come out and raise the issue of how some people just don't like him because he is black is not a problem. You see it a a cheap political trick, I see it as a way of bringing to light an issue that REALLY exists.
When anyone tries to use their race in an unfounded accusation against others I think that is wrong. That is what my post pointed out. It was not some people. It was two named individuals one of whom was the current President of the USA. Your responses don't bear on what I posted. You are trying to change the nature of the post into somehting that bears no resemblance of what I posted.
But the fact remains that MANY people in this country hate Obama because he is different, because he does have a funny name, because he is black etc. For him to bring up that issue to HIS supporters is not out of the question when this is considered. I do not see this as a cheap form of the "race card" because I see a real issue of race behind why a lot of people hate Obama.
Again you talk about many people. This does not bear at all on my post. Two specific people were named. I see what he did as exactly playing the race card. How do you not?
Again, not talking about you, but I'm sure we can agree that there thousands of people out there using their political voice to make derogatory remarks about Obama's race.
I am not sure I can agree with this. I don't see thoudsands of people using their political voice making derogatory remarks about Obama's race. Could you please cite some examples for me.
The media is allowed to talk about Obama's race? Racists are allowed to talk about his race? But when Obama addresses the issue of his own race, he is deemed a cheap political for doing so
It depends upon how a person talks about his race which I think has been made plain. It was not general or benign talk about his race but a political shot at two named people. You are making plenty of straw man arguments that have nothing to do with my post.
Here is another straw man that you procede to knock the stuffing out of that has nothing to do with my post.
Not to mention, your post suggests Obama only deals with opponents under this race paradigm, which is just not true.
How does my post suggest that Obama "only
" deals with opponents this way?
I guess it just comes down to a difference of opinion on how much of a role race plays in society. You see Obama's comments as misplaced and unfounded. I see a real problem where a lot of people just hate him becauae of his race, so he had to talk about it. Usually, the people who condemn the use of the race card are people who believe stuff like "hey, it's 2010, there's no racism" and things like that. In reality it exists and it should be talked about. That being said I agree people exploit it from time to time. But let's think about things before caling it the race card
Let's also think about things before someone totally misconstrues a post and lets also think before saying something is not playing the race card when it really is.
I am still curious about the example(s) that you can cite about the race card being over used.