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Post Pouncey has to get a mental health eval to be able to play
Well we went a few weeks with staying out of the news for off the field issues.
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2014/03/24/dolphins-center-mike-pouncey-will-have-to-undergo-mental-health-evaluation-before-playing-again/

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Post Re: Pouncey has to get a mental health eval to be able to play
Perhaps we should all have to get a mental health eval to be able to post here... :headscratch


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Do any of the players who get arrested and leave a black eye on the league have to do mental evaluations too?


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I think its a bit out of hand now. I will be interesting to see what happens to Irsay. Owners should not be excluded I guess.

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Post Re: Pouncey has to get a mental health eval to be able to play
I wonder if Martin has to get one as well? Out of every person involved, he is the only one who strikes me as mentally unstable based on the articles I've read.


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Sorry, Richie doesn't seem unstable? Did you hear what he did to his own car?


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Dolphins fans are going to need mental evals if things don't improve soon. This team is driving me nutz.

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Yep, figured this was coming.


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Mental Eval for what? To see if he actually has a functioning brain cell?


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Damage control.. you can't make richie get one without Pouncy... this is just a lawsuit protection move... nothing more..


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Yep, figured this was coming.


Mak, I did too.



Just as an example, this just reminds me of why I don't work in the corporate world anymore. BS meetings to look good, processes and procedures mandated to sometimes look good and a system that you have to follow just because.

This is an HR centric compliance move in my opinion and nothing more. This bullying scandal received national attention and you pay Wells who knows how much to conduct this goat rodeo investigation and of course they are going to come back making it look like oh you need to comply and do this and that.

I expected all of this and although I do not proclaim to know exactly what makes these guys tick, I think the point has been driven across to these guys by now and you stick a mandate on them that if they ever pull this nonsense again that Goodell could suspend them or kick them out of the NFL.

These so called "medical" reviews are procedural. Lie down on the couch now and tell me if you dream of butterflies or evil clowns....why did you feel the need to pick on poor Johnny...were you picked on yourself as a child etc. etc.


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I wonder if Martin has to get one as well? Out of every person involved, he is the only one who strikes me as mentally unstable based on the articles I've read.


Really man??? Richie Incognito is shoving golf clubs into volunteers, having mood swings on twitter and bashing in his own Ferrari and claiming he is part of a brotherhood and you think Martin is the only one with mental issues?

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Really man??? Richie Incognito is shoving golf clubs into volunteers, having mood swings on twitter and bashing in his own Ferrari and claiming he is part of a brotherhood and you think Martin is the only one with mental issues?


LOL. We know that Martin has issues, but in my opinion the loose nut is Incognito. If he isn't on bippolar meds he needs to be. I hate that all this happened, but this situation may have saved Incognito's life. Some people always think its the other person who is the problem until they hit rock bottom themselves.

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Incognito is on my Twitter. He does come across like he definitely STILL has issues. I hear issues and immaturity in his comments and he keeps IMO digging himself into a hole where no one in the NFL may take a flier on him.


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I hear issues and immaturity in his comments and he keeps IMO digging himself into a hole where no one in the NFL may take a flier on him.


Oakland's GM is actually looking into him per ESPN. Good luck.

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Oakland's GM is actually looking into him per ESPN. Good luck.


Yeah I read/saw that comment as well. I will believe it when I see it at this point. Today Incognito just tweeted out to Jonathan Martin for him to give him a call. Really? You need to post that out on social media?


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Yeah I read/saw that comment as well. I will believe it when I see it at this point. Today Incognito just tweeted out to Jonathan Martin for him to give him a call. Really? You need to post that out on social media?


Agreed, Richie sounds desperate as hell voicing that over social media. It's so obvious that it's a "PR" move by him, if he truly meant what he said, he'd take it up with JM in private. Hopefully this is the last I talk about all this crap because I was tired of it as soon as the story broke...it's so elementary and juvenile how all this broke down.

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Who knows what constitutes a mental issue these days? Who is doing the evaluating? With so many kids/adults on Psychiatric medication already, who is qualified to judge.

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Really man??? Richie Incognito is shoving golf clubs into volunteers, having mood swings on twitter and bashing in his own Ferrari and claiming he is part of a brotherhood and you think Martin is the only one with mental issues?

I think Richie is playing his cards. Not including the golf thing.


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Why does this thread have more attention then anything else right now?


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Sorry, Richie doesn't seem unstable? Did you hear what he did to his own car?


Does he have anger issues, probably. Is he mentally unstable to the point where he shouldn't be allowed to continue his career, I don't think so.


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Does he have anger issues, probably.


He has more than anger issues. One minute he is on Twitter telling Jonathan Martin that he's going to get his, the next he is on Twitter telling Jonathan Martin that he loves him and wants to patch things up.

And taking a bat to a luxury sports car goes beyond anger issues. Being at home all day lifting weights and all night getting drunk goes beyond anger issues.

The guy is bipolar.

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Agreed, Richie sounds desperate as hell voicing that over social media.


He would have been smart to stay off social media. A lot of employers check out interviewees twitter and facebook accounts these days when deciding on whether to hire a person.

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The guy is bipolar.

Or has Saul for a lawyer.


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I don't understand why Martin shouldn't have to do the same before he plays for anybody.

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wkloiber13 wrote:
Does he have anger issues, probably.


He has more than anger issues. One minute he is on Twitter telling Jonathan Martin that he's going to get his, the next he is on Twitter telling Jonathan Martin that he loves him and wants to patch things up.

And taking a bat to a luxury sports car goes beyond anger issues. Being at home all day lifting weights and all night getting drunk goes beyond anger issues.

The guy is bipolar.


And this should preclude him from being able to play in the NFL why?

Brandon Marshall and other NFL players have exhibited many of the same social disorders as Incognito, and their outbursts have resulted in cases of assault, domestic violence, etc. Yet they are allowed to play in the NFL.

Incognito's outbursts have resulted in nothing more than bad jokes and speculative bullying.

What makes Incognito worse or different than the others? Why should he be punished when others with more egregious violations continue their careers with a slap on the wrist?


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And this should preclude him from being able to play in the NFL why?

Brandon Marshall and other NFL players have exhibited many of the same social disorders as Incognito, and their outbursts have resulted in cases of assault, domestic violence, etc. Yet they are allowed to play in the NFL.

Incognito's outbursts have resulted in nothing more than bad jokes and speculative bullying.

What makes Incognito worse or different than the others? Why should he be punished when others with more egregious violations continue their careers with a slap on the wrist?


Good points. If he gets the eval and he has a mental disorder, then the NFL can let him play. It's like a get of jail for free card. I beat my wife...mental disorder, you can play. I get a DUI..mental disorder, you can play. I molest a girl with a golf club...mental disorder, you can play. I get bullied and I'm a sissy, mental disorder, you can play.


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And this should preclude him from being able to play in the NFL why?


Stop changing the subject. I never addressed anything about him being allowed to play or not play.

You said Martin was the only one that struck you as mentally unstable. Either you were not informed about Incognito's full range of actions (you are now) or you considered his behavior (bashing in a Ferrari, assaulting a charity volunteer with a golf club, having mental breakdowns on twitter etc) to represent an example of mental stability.

Hopefully... you were just not informed.

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So i'm guessing this means Pouncey won't get suspended.

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Jerry was named in Ted Wells report as someone that "engaged in a pattern of harassment" toward Jonathan Martin. The Giants seem to have gotten assurances from the league office that there won't be any discipline. "There is no suspension in the air or anything of that nature," coach Tom Coughlin said. "Whatever part he played in it, there was remorse, sincere remorse."


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I wonder if Martin has to get one as well? Out of every person involved, he is the only one who strikes me as mentally unstable based on the articles I've read.


Betrayed by what he thought was a friend, his career in shambles and is now the poster child for bullies around the world.... gee...wonder why a guy would rage. :hithead:


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Ray Lewis shot and killed a guy ..... NFL Hero


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Ray Lewis shot and killed a guy ..... NFL Hero


Wow, Ray Lewis shot a guy and somehow made it look like the guy was stabbed.

That's talent man....

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