Rich wrote:
Phins Rock wrote:
However, Ryan isn't on Wilson's level. Not close, IMO.
I'm not sure how this is determinable given Ryan's defense and running game versus Russell's defense and running game.
If Russell Wilson is on the Miami Dolphins with Mike Sherman pigeon-holing him into his archaic philosophy, he's not having anywhere near the success he has had.
Not even close.
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Does Ryan win that game with Seattle? Yeah....But Ryan wouldn't have made the plays Wilson made two weeks ago against SF to put them there.
I seem to recall a lot of plays where Wilson was scrambling way too far back and getting himself in trouble with intentional groundings etc.
He did make the one play on 4th down for a go-ahead score, which was as ballsy and clutch as it gets (it was a free play too), but Seattle's defense won that game as well by intercepting Kaepernick twice, especially once to seal the win.
Listen, Wilson is a fine young QB who is playing beyond his stature and obviously given it is early in his career he has more room to grow.
But clearly the superior QB going into the game was Peyton Manning. There is no debating that.
And yet the inferior QB's team destroyed the superior QB's team... because while many love to say it is all about the QB, the Superbowl was clearly about the better TEAM.
By the way, earlier this season there was a comparison between Manning's deep ball and Tannehill's deep ball.
How did Manning's deep ball look like night with Cliff Avril in his face all game?
I don't disagree with anything you said.
I just look at the plays Wilson makes, and I don't see Tannehill replicating that, regardless of the supporting cast.
Wilson may not have to make a lot of plays and put the team on his back. But when he does have to make plays, he does, and does it consistently against the best in the most critical situations. About as often as any QB today, to be honest.
Not saying Wilson is Manning. Obviously not. But my point it's hard for me to sit here and take things away from Wilson because he doesn't have to do as much as some others, like Ryan in Miami. At the end of the day, the way he creates throwing lanes for himself, extends plays, his deep ball, his football intelligence and maturity, his moxy/leadership/confidence…It's all better than Tannehill's. Some of it significantly better.
I also think the thing that attracts me more to Wilson is how much he's improved. Tannehill got better from year 1 to year 2, but also took steps back in a lot of areas. Wilson, at least in my opinion, massively improved in 2013, and got better as the season went on.
Wilson reminds me a lot of Brady. Obviously not in terms of his physical traits or style of play, but in terms of his career trajectory. Brady also managed great teams to Super Bowls without having to do a lot to win games, especially that first one…but it doesn't mean he wasn't elite when he had to be.