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There is MUCH more to read on the link above. Dayum 'Mando...

I think a lot less of Dungy after he participated in this staged interview. I wish they would have let someone ask real questions.

I thought the same exact thing.

...and Dungy is one of the people advising Ross.

They got no choice.. it's all about Damage control now..

Martin is a big PUSS.

Trade him to Indy where he can block for hiis college QB. I'm sure we can get a sixth our seventh rounder for him

Definitely, and Incognito is a real jerk. I'll miss Incognito as he was a baller on the field. Unfortunately, the Dolphins didn't monitor him. He has come a long way since he was with the Rams, but he still has issues.

Do you think that the Phins should be monitoring the private communications between teammates? The rest of the team did not see anything out of hand and thought that Incognito and Martin were friends. Martin went after the whole of the Dolphins organization.

Are raunchy text messages the only issue Incognito had while with the Dolphins?

As I understand it the reason that Incognito was suspended is because of the accusations of Martin and the text messages he selectively released, not the other issues Incognito had while with the Dolphins. Is that your understanding of the situation?

Given the theme of the thread I was under the impression that Dave thought that the Incognito/Martin situation could have been avoided if Incognito would have been monitored. So I asked him a question based on that. I think Dave would know what he means and I guessed he would clear up any misconception that I had if he decided to answer the query.

So it isn't possible that because of previous incidents the Dolphins decided enough was enough when this came out?



Since he said Incognito still has issues, isn't it possible he was speaking in a general sense given the other incidents Incognito has been involved in since he's been with the Dolphins?

I don't know all of the reasons the Dolphins did what they did. Do you? I do know that he was not released until the Martin stuff came up. Your logic seems reasonable and if that was what Dave was referencing or something else I am still going to guess that he knows and will clarify if he chooses too.



Sure he may have been. That is why I asked a question and made a statement that he could answer or not as he chooses. Depending on how he answered I hoped to have further communication with him about it. Like if the Martin stuff had not come up and Incognito would have had another pro bowl year do you think the Phins would have tried to sign him or things like that. Was just waiting for the answer to the first inquiry before having the whole conversation.

No, but you seemed pretty certain that you did just a post or two ago. What changed?

Also, it is pretty safe to assume that his past played a role in it, especially since Philbin had already asked to get rid of him after the golf course incident.

Incognito had a lot of anger issues and took out on the players that he faced. The Rams got tired of it and released him. The Bills picked him up for the remainder of the season, and then let him go.

Since Miami signed him, he's been much better on the field. I don't think a lot of us knew how he was in the lockerroom until the Martin stuff came up, but the Dolphins knew as they had to clean up some stuff in-house.

I have a feeling that this would have been his last year with the Dolphins based on some comments that we've seen this year.

Remember that Incognito had on field incidents with that Texans defensive lineman in twice.

He had the night club incident, where we are not sure what happened there.

And by far one of the most degrading and disgusting things I've ever heard of being done to a person in public with that golf volunteer.

If it had been solely up to Philbin, he would have been gone before 2013. Nice job Philbin... even a stopped clock gets the right time twice a day.

Not sure what you are referencing. Seems to be a lot of you and me going back and forth about the meaning of posts. Instead of possibly boring the others on the thread with he said, he said why not go to pm if you want to continue.

PM is boring.

In fact, I'm swearing going forward to abstain from PM.

So do you think that the Phins organization should have known about the types of communication that Incognito and Martin were having with each other and put a stop to it? Just trying to figure out your take on the situation.

For my take I don't lay the blame at the feet of Incognito for his actions or the Dolphins for not knowing what was going on in Martins' head, yet. I am not sure who or what exactly Martin told people in the Phins organization so would like to know that before fully forming an opinion. Martin's communication were similar to Incognito's.

Martin has said it was not just Incognito but others in the locker room as well. Some players in the locker room said they were not aware of any problem. In my personal opinion I don't think that the Phins locker room, cultrure, etc... is that much different than others in the league. I don't think the Phins players are less observant or caring than others in the NFL.

Sometimes situations arise and no amount of reasonable care or precaution can prevent them. This may be one of those situations.

Of course I do think about the flip side sometimes. If the Phins organization did know or think that Incognito was a problem and a detriment to the locker room and the players around him then why was he on the leadership council. I think that the players vote on the council but would Philbin and his staff not have some responsibility for allowing him to be on it.

Ah to bad, my loss.

I do not see how any team is going to want Martin in their locker room. I would not sign him as a FA. First he is not "That" good & since he is not "That" good, then why risk the chance he will bring a bad light on your org. Personally I think he is done in the NFL & I think that is what this is all about. Quitting, but still getting paid.

Richie was also known as the dirtiest player in the NFL.

I say we cut martin outright and give Incognito an extension. Let's make a statement that the Miami Dolphins are a man's team and Jennifer Martin didn't have the testicular fortitude to make the final cut. We will not change because 1 person was offended... We're not the government. Majority rule, vigilante justice and and no mercy are our way.

Nice in theory but will never happen. Miami is not a mans team with this owner & especially this coach.
And Bullygate aside , Incognito is not worth an extension.