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Post Sherman/Philben willing to throw the ball on every down IF
It kind of reminds me of the Dan Marino years when Shula couldn't draft a running back and had to throw a lot. While we need a running game, I think for the first time post-Marino that we have a quarterback that can sling the ball all over the field to multiple receivers.

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Dolphins OC Mike Sherman says coach Joe Philbin is willing to throw on every down if the team can't move the ball on the ground.

This approach is not sustainable, of course, but in Week 1 the Fins looked like a team incapable of running the football. "Coach Philbin is of that mindset," Sherman said when asked about a pass-first offense. "I don’t know that I’ve quite reached that mindset yet. I like to hand the ball off once in a while just to eat up some clock time and also to say, ‘Hey, we’re still going to run the football.’ Coach Philbin could possibly convince me otherwise."


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Post Re: Sherman/Philben willing to throw the ball on every down IF
Usually the running game opens up the passing game. The Dolphins seem to have the passing game that can open up the running game. I don't think we should give up on the running game, but the offensive plays should be used to get the defense off balanced if the running game is nonexistent ... such as screens and slants.

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The Dolphins have an interesting dynamic going on when deciding how to deal with a defense that is commited to stuffing the run at the expense of protecting against the pass. Offensive coordinator Mike Sherman likes to continue to try to run the ball to see if something busts loose. Head coach Joe Philbin is more apt to give up on running the ball altogether and simply throw it all the time.

“I think coach Philbin is certainly of that mindset, I don’t know if I’ve quite reached that mindset yet," Sherman said. "I like to be able to keep them honest, hand the ball off here once and a while just to eat up some clock time and also to say hey we’re still going to run the football but I think coach Philbin could possibly convince me otherwise."


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Post Re: Sherman/Philben willing to throw the ball on every down IF
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It kind of reminds me of the Dan Marino years when Shula couldn't draft a running back and had to throw a lot.


Careful there buddy, your entering a grey area...


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Its rather amusing to me really, they cant run the ball.

What was the message to Clev, respect the run or I wil dial up one of my 3 running plays up the gut...


LOL Someone blew the pooch on that o-line and the RB's from what I have seen so far, hoping it works itself out but the o-line has been troublesome for a while now.
I always look for the reoccuring factor, and its seeming like Ireland doesnt know how to find lineman unless he drafts them in the first...

Its just week one, so like I said I hope it works itself out...

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Against Indy D, I think we're going to have a field day. VD will be shadowing Wallace all day, but we know how that goes with a double move go route. VD WILL take away the small stuff, that's what he has always been good at, but the deep ball is his Achilles. Tanny can make short work of the other noners. Considering Indy's ineptness at stopping the run, and weak OL, this could be a blowout. I'll spot a TD or two just for the Luck to Wayne factor, but Miami wins this round. We need another win going in to our next two games (I consider Baltimore even keel now).

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Sorry, I'm not comfortable with passing the ball on close to every down. 95% of the QBs in the league will start getting picked off frequently in that formula, and unfortunately I think Tannehill falls into that grouping.

If the o-line can't block and Miller dances too much then it is time to bring in short term band aids. The passing game has the ability too be pretty darn good if they can implement the play action. Make it work!


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Against Indy D, I think we're going to have a field day. VD will be shadowing Wallace all day, but we know how that goes with a double move go route. VD WILL take away the small stuff, that's what he has always been good at, but the deep ball is his Achilles. Tanny can make short work of the other noners. Considering Indy's ineptness at stopping the run, and weak OL, this could be a blowout. I'll spot a TD or two just for the Luck to Wayne factor, but Miami wins this round. We need another win going in to our next two games (I consider Baltimore even keel now).


You don't think they'll bracket Wallace with VD and a safety?

It's not just going to be Davis Island bro.

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eventually teams are going to have to pay attention to Hartline and Gibson and loosen their grip on Wallace and Lamar Miller.


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eventually teams are going to have to pay attention to Hartline and Gibson and loosen their grip on Wallace and Lamar Miller.


At this stage, teams would rather give up the short/intermediate stuff to Hartline/Gibson and play tight games with us than let Wallace loose. The O-line is showing that teams don't need to stack the line, that leaves extra defenders to keep back against the pass.

What can change that is a running game that man's up. Play-action would do wonders for a squad devoid of legitimate TE talent.

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depends on the score....a lead can open things up....they can't try and stop the big play if we have a good lead...

just like you can't run on 2nd and 19



very excited to see us get up on someone early so we can see this pass rush go to town


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philbin!


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Post Re: Sherman/Philben willing to throw the ball on every down IF
We need to use Mike Wallace exactly how Philly used DeSean Jackson.


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We need to use him so the team wins


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Post Re: Sherman/Philben willing to throw the ball on every down IF
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depends on the score....a lead can open things up....they can't try and stop the big play if we have a good lead...

just like you can't run on 2nd and 19



very excited to see us get up on someone early so we can see this pass rush go to town


You can't run on 2nd and 19? Since when?

Why can't they try and stop the big play if we have a lead?

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What can change that is a running game that man's up. Play-action would do wonders for a squad devoid of legitimate TE talent.


Amen.


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Post Re: Sherman/Philben willing to throw the ball on every down IF
Screw the running game...we have Ryandan Tannerino


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Kev1321 wrote:
depends on the score....a lead can open things up....they can't try and stop the big play if we have a good lead...

just like you can't run on 2nd and 19



very excited to see us get up on someone early so we can see this pass rush go to town


You can't run on 2nd and 19? Since when?

Why can't they try and stop the big play if we have a lead?


You can, but only the Vikings would, and get away with it.

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Big Dave wrote:
It kind of reminds me of the Dan Marino years when Shula couldn't draft a running back and had to throw a lot.


Careful there buddy, your entering a grey area...


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Calling out Shula or Marino for doing something bad isn't exactly using their names in vain. Neither of those guys were perfect. To be honest, after the Dolphins epic collapse in 1993 when they were picked to go to the Super Bowl, Shula should've been let go after that season. Jimmy had just been fired from the Cowboys and would've taken the Dolphins job then and who knows what would've happened if he had put his stamp on this team two years earlier than he did.



Back on topic. I agree with some people on here not to give up on the running game. But it's a passing league now. Therefore I'm in favor of using the pass to set up the run.

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Rock Sexton wrote:
Kev1321 wrote:
depends on the score....a lead can open things up....they can't try and stop the big play if we have a good lead...

just like you can't run on 2nd and 19



very excited to see us get up on someone early so we can see this pass rush go to town


You can't run on 2nd and 19? Since when?

Why can't they try and stop the big play if we have a lead?



You would be a great OC...


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You would be a great OC...


You wouldn't make a great anything.

Not surprised to get any actual explanations from you, just blanket statements for the sake of being contrarian. Apparently you've never heard of a delayed draw before.

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Kev1321 wrote:
You would be a great OC...


You wouldn't make a great anything.

Not surprised to get any actual explanations from you, just blanket statements for the sake of being contrarian. Apparently you've never heard of a delayed draw before.


Great call Norv


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Great call Norv


That all you got for me?

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