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Rumour out of Jax is that he doesn't get past them at #10. They are looking at him as a home grown talent, and a gamechanger to go along with Jones-Drew. TFWIW


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Post Re: For those of you wanting CJ Spiller
I don't think they get him,Jones-Drew just needs someone solid to back him up, they don't need a CJ Spiller. What Jax could use though is a qb or a wr.


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I was thinking the same thing, but apparently thats the guy that they want


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Try Derrick Morgan. The Jaguars had only 14 sacks last year as a TEAM.

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Try Derrick Morgan. The Jaguars had only 14 sacks last year as a TEAM.




Just saying what I heard, I dont agree with that they should take Spiller. I just heard rumours saidd they were going to take him.


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Well by all means, believe whatever rumors that come out before the draft then. ; )


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I think Miami goes OLB or DT with the first pick. Spiller would be awesome, but I think Marshall was the big offensive move this off season. Time to fill the holes on defense....and boy are there a lot of holes.

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I agree and really Spiller would be a luxury. Of course if we move Brown for picks, we are going to need a playmaker to replace him. Perhaps there is someone later in the draft who they feel convicted about being that man. I don't see any free agents who are going to fill that hole nor do I see any long term answers on our roster right now for replacing what Ronnie brings to the table.


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If we could get a 2nd rounder for Ronnie, then I would do it. He almost never finishes a season healthy and it just kills our offense when he is out.

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Try Derrick Morgan. The Jaguars had only 14 sacks last year as a TEAM.




Just saying what I heard, I dont agree with that they should take Spiller. I just heard rumours saidd they were going to take him.


Not knocking you nbrewer and I realize you are just posting what you heard, I am just giving my opinion on the direction Jacksonville will go. They really want to trade down and get additional picks, but trading in to the top ten and paying top ten money is something a lot of teams don't want to do.

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Just don't see Jacksonville going offense when they, as others have said, NEED to improve on defense. Too may top defenders available at No. 10 to go with Spiller. Then again, teams have done crazier things.

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:stalker: Were is PZ? I fig he would jump all over this topic lol....Spiller is a good back but like I said before, dont think his game play fits what we are doing here in Miami. He is more of a R.Bush type back and we need a inside and outside type of a runner

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Were is PZ?


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Were is PZ?


I'm too focused on the bottom of your avatar to give a damn...


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:stalker: Were is PZ? I fig he would jump all over this topic lol....Spiller is a good back but like I said before, dont think his game play fits what we are doing here in Miami. He is more of a R.Bush type back and we need a inside and outside type of a runner

I think his game fits anywhere, to be honest. You're looking at a Chris Johnson / MJD caliber guy. He's just disgusting.

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:stalker: Were is PZ? I fig he would jump all over this topic lol....Spiller is a good back but like I said before, dont think his game play fits what we are doing here in Miami. He is more of a R.Bush type back and we need a inside and outside type of a runner

I think his game fits anywhere, to be honest. You're looking at a Chris Johnson / MJD caliber guy. He's just disgusting.


I completely disagree there.

If Miami did not still have Ricky, and if RB was not a position that you could get so easily anywhere, I would be inclined to agree with everyone. I just can't find an excuse to draft a situational type of RB with the current situation right now.


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If we could get a 2nd rounder for Ronnie, then I would do it. He almost never finishes a season healthy and it just kills our offense when he is out.


4 out of 5 seasons on injured reserve.


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Phins, CJ Spiller can fill a lot of holes for Miami. Now that Ted Ginn is gone, the Phins need a return specialist and CJ was the best in NCAA history.

Of his 51 TD, 20 plus were over 50 yards, so that tells you this kid is explosive, a big play waiting to happen. 606 carries for 3,547 yards and 123 catches for 1,420 yards speaks to his versatility and he would be wonderful in the WildCat package in Patrick Cobbs spot. You can use him in the pass game and he gives you a huge mismatch against LB's or S on 3rd downs.

While he may not be an every down back, he would not need to be at Miami with Ricky and Ronnie.

I don't think CJ will be the pick, but I sure would not be upset if he was.

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spiller would also make the opposing coaches have to plan against him each week, like they do to reggie bush, to contain him.


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If Miami did not still have Ricky, and if RB was not a position that you could get so easily anywhere, I would be inclined to agree with everyone. I just can't find an excuse to draft a situational type of RB with the current situation right now.


Sorry Rock but, if this, and if that, is still why you should do it. Remember, Johnson went to the Titans after Lendale White was still grinding out very good yardage. It was a very good move, look at what Johnson brings to that offense not only as a change of pace but, a featured back.

In my opinion he's a complete back. I think Ronnie falls short in that area, especially, in the passing game.

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he would be wonderful in the WildCat package in Patrick Cobbs spot..


Actually I think that he would be electrifying in Ricky's spot. Coming around the edge with his speed would be very difficult for the OLB and S to just crash in everytime.


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A situational back??? Have you not seen the videos where this kid absolutely runs through defenders??

He runs through them, around them, over them, under them, every freakin which way he has to in order to score a touchdown. He is a complete back and he returns punts and kicks.

C'MON!!!


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If we could get a 2nd rounder for Ronnie, then I would do it. He almost never finishes a season healthy and it just kills our offense when he is out.


4 out of 5 seasons on injured reserve.


Try 2 out of 5.


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A situational back??? Have you not seen the videos where this kid absolutely runs through defenders??

He runs through them, around them, over them, under them, every freakin which way he has to in order to score a touchdown. He is a complete back and he returns punts and kicks.

C'MON!!!


Want me to find you a Reggie Bush video of his days at USC?

I don't mean this as a cheap shot at you or anyone, but if you guys actually watched him play a game live...actually watched a full Clemson football game...you would know what I am talking about.

I can make a highlight video of Brian Hartline, show it to a Lions fan and he would have thought Brian had 2000 receiving yards. Don't fall in love because of youtube highlights.

There were plenty of times where he got shut down completely, and other than 1 run to save his day, he was getting nothing all day. Again, as a compliment to Ronnie, it could be lethal. But he is NOT Chris Johnson.


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A situational back??? Have you not seen the videos where this kid absolutely runs through defenders??

He runs through them, around them, over them, under them, every freakin which way he has to in order to score a touchdown. He is a complete back and he returns punts and kicks.

C'MON!!!


Want me to find you a Reggie Bush video of his days at USC?

I don't mean this as a cheap shot at you or anyone, but if you guys actually watched him play a game live...actually watched a full Clemson football game...you would know what I am talking about.

I can make a highlight video of Brian Hartline, show it to a Lions fan and he would have thought Brian had 2000 receiving yards. Don't fall in love because of youtube highlights.

There were plenty of times where he got shut down completely, and other than 1 run to save his day, he was getting nothing all day. Again, as a compliment to Ronnie, it could be lethal. But he is NOT Chris Johnson.


I will say I was amazed at how opinions changed when they watched that one video. However, I put the Chris Johnson highlight reel up, I've seen Spiller live in a game, I watched Bush live in a game....
I've done my due dilligence in my opinion of Spiller. Even you know I was at first against taking him at 12. After further review, and real study, I realized this guy has it.
He can score on any given play, just like Adrian Peterson had/has that. Is Spiller AP? No. Does AP have Spiller's speed? No.
It didn't matter the angle defenders took on Spiller, he outran them. He's fast, shifty, good hands, and a ridiculous knack for taking a play that would have gone for maybe 6 or 7 and making it 76 yards.

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I will not disagree with that iowa, however, that doesn't mean he can be an every down back. He does enough with his big runs to make up for the lack of consistent yardage he gets on an every down situation, but that was in college. Is he really going to break those at the NFL level? I don't think so, or at least not as often.

If BP and co. feel he is the next Chris Johnson, than he is the choice and that's that. I just don't feel he is. I think he's an everyday (or in this case every year), type of RB that we do not need right now. We've got 2 very good backs, and just because they are not 4.3 guys does not mean that they cannot get the job done and that we cannot win a Super Bowl with them.

CJ Spiller would be a luxury selection, and we cannot afford that in the first round. Not this year.


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I will not disagree with that iowa, however, that doesn't mean he can be an every down back. He does enough with his big runs to make up for the lack of consistent yardage he gets on an every down situation, but that was in college. Is he really going to break those at the NFL level? I don't think so, or at least not as often.


I think he can. And I agree that he isn't an every down back. However, I think Reggie Bush last year for the Saints was a huge part of that offense. His threat on punts is huge, but the fact that he can line up in the slot, as a flanker, in the backfield...it's just a nightmare matchup wise.
I loved the pick when Miami had the 2nd rounder. However, right now, without that 2nd rounder, it's hard to justify taking him at 12. I think you have to move back to get back into the 2nd round. If that means passing on Spiller, so be it.

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I will not disagree with that iowa, however, that doesn't mean he can be an every down back. He does enough with his big runs to make up for the lack of consistent yardage he gets on an every down situation, but that was in college. Is he really going to break those at the NFL level? I don't think so, or at least not as often.


I think he can. And I agree that he isn't an every down back. However, I think Reggie Bush last year for the Saints was a huge part of that offense. His threat on punts is huge, but the fact that he can line up in the slot, as a flanker, in the backfield...it's just a nightmare matchup wise.
I loved the pick when Miami had the 2nd rounder. However, right now, without that 2nd rounder, it's hard to justify taking him at 12. I think you have to move back to get back into the 2nd round. If that means passing on Spiller, so be it.


We'll see what Bush does in 2010, because he did start being a huge factor for them in a couple of games last year, including the divisional round.

I wrote a blog about CJ a few weeks ago, and I basically asked this question as the main point. Five years from now, despite all our needs for 2010, will anybody be complaining about having Spiller on the team? While we all talk about needs for 2010, and with our FA moves it does look like we are trying to make this the year, the draft is about the future.

That said though, I don't think we'll be complaining about a great pass rusher opposite Wake either;).


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A situational back??? Have you not seen the videos where this kid absolutely runs through defenders??

He runs through them, around them, over them, under them, every freakin which way he has to in order to score a touchdown. He is a complete back and he returns punts and kicks.

C'MON!!!

Nice to see you chime in on your boy. I do like Spiller he has to quote a 80's movie "All the right Moves". Just think the way this team is build now we need a back more the mold of Ronnie or Ricky, that low to mid 200 guy. I dont think Parcells has ever had a main back that has Spillers moves. If he had a guy like that he would us him on 3rd downs. Thats why I say Spiller wont fit what we are doing now. Would be a waste for us to use the 12th pick on 3rd down guy who we might put in on ST.

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Were is PZ?


I'm too focused on the bottom of your avatar to give a damn...

:grin: LMAO, Just dont stare to long at it you might go blind :hypnotize: lol

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Fact of the matter is that the NFL is trending to these guys for a reason. CJ Spiller and Dexter McCluster will be two of the best offensive players to come out of this draft. The teams that are lucky enough to pick them up will be very, very happy. I only hope the Dolphins can be one of them.

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I don't mean this as a cheap shot at you or anyone, but if you guys actually watched him play a game live...actually watched a full Clemson football game...you would know what I am talking about.


I watched a full live Clemson game against my own Hurricanes. He absolutely destroyed us. The Hurricanes could not stop him on ANY play. He destroyed us up the middle, to the outside, and in the air.

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I don't mean this as a cheap shot at you or anyone, but if you guys actually watched him play a game live...actually watched a full Clemson football game...you would know what I am talking about.


I watched a full live Clemson game against my own Hurricanes. He absolutely destroyed us. The Hurricanes could not stop him on ANY play. He destroyed us up the middle, to the outside, and in the air.


He did. That was his best game of the regular season this past year.

He does have homerun ability, no doubt. With the needs on Defense though, and now spending our 2nd for Marshall, I don't think you can justify taking the guy at 12. I'll leave it at that.


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Scoring five different ways, Spiller accounted for 21 touchdowns—11 rushing, four receiving, four on kickoff returns, one on a punt return and one passing. Nine of them were from greater than 50 yards.

He recorded a touchdown in every game this year—the only college football player to do so.

He also set the career NCAA record for most kickoff returns for touchdowns with seven. This year he returned one out of every five kickoffs for a touchdown, and that is just when teams kicked to him. Clemson's average starting position on each drive was the 38.

More than 75 percent of Spiller's touchdowns this year came between the tackles. Give the guy a crease, and it's six.

He also was only one of two running backs to rush for 100-plus yards against TCU's defense.

And this was all done behind a porous offensive line with a redshirt-freshman quarterback.

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Yeah and I don't get this "I dont know if he can be an every down back" talk... we don't have an every down back!! In case you haven't noticed, Ronnie isn't on the field for half the year cuz he's always hurt! If you still want to consider HIM an every down back, thats fine, but I'd disagree.

Plus.. we switch personnel so often on this team.. I don't think he'd have to worry about that every down back status... what matters is that any time this kid is on the field, there's a very good chance he'll explode. We could use that kind of explosion on this offense.


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:awe: Okay okay you guys got me I m now on board with Spiller and his game skills,now lets hope he is high on the Phins board.

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Parcells all-time favorite player IMO is Dave Meggett. The guy played for Parcells on 3 different teams. He made two pro bowls for being an all-purpose back. He was 5'7" 190, shifty and fast as hell. I think Spiller is the pick because he will be our Dave Meggett.


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Parcells all-time favorite player IMO is Dave Meggett. The guy played for Parcells on 3 different teams. He made two pro bowls for being an all-purpose back. He was 5'7" 190, shifty and fast as hell. I think Spiller is the pick because he will be our Dave Meggett.


Try Dexter McCluster.


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I don't mean this as a cheap shot at you or anyone, but if you guys actually watched him play a game live...actually watched a full Clemson football game...you would know what I am talking about.


I watched a full live Clemson game against my own Hurricanes. He absolutely destroyed us. The Hurricanes could not stop him on ANY play. He destroyed us up the middle, to the outside, and in the air.


He did. That was his best game of the regular season this past year.

He does have homerun ability, no doubt. With the needs on Defense though, and now spending our 2nd for Marshall, I don't think you can justify taking the guy at 12. I'll leave it at that.


You need to hit on the 12th pick. If the defensive players left at that pick are rated below Spiller on your chart, you take Spiller.

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If Earl Thomas and CJ Spiller are both on the board at pick #12 what happens then? Do we trade down or do we take one of them or do we go in a completely different direction?


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