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FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports that the 49ers have acquired WR/KR Ted Ginn from the Dolphins in exchange for a late-round pick.


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I wonder what round its in hope nothing later than 4th

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HE'S GONE and I doubt its better than a 5th...but we can hope ;)

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Depending what a 'late round' draft pick constitutes.. I really think ginn is more valuable to us than a 6th or 7th round pick


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It looks like we just gave him away.

Let's face it ... he doesn't fit the tough-mental personality that Parcells likes. He wasn't a good fit on this team and I am surprised it wasn't done last year.

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I bet its a 5th rounder.


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Stupid move, all the haters will be in here now.

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Depending what a 'late round' draft pick constitutes.. I really think ginn is more valuable to us than a 6th or 7th round pick

yeah a pick that late then we could have kept him, a guy that late at 6-7 will be just P-squad or SP

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Ted Ginn Jr. traded to San Francisco

Ted Ginn has told friends and teammates he has been traded to the San Francisco 49ers. The Dolphins are not commenting publicly but I got a text from a team source confirming the trade is done for a 2010 draft.

That pick will be a Saturday pick I am told. That means a late-rounder guys.

Ginn's fate was sealed by the recent acquisition of Brandon Marshall, but the truth is Ginn has been on the trade block for several weeks.

The former first-round pick in 2007 -- No. 9 overall -- regressed significantly in 2009. He dropped more passes than just about anyone in the NFL. His production also dropped from 56 catches in 2008 to 38 in 2009.


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Well now we can get a late round speed guy or,and I know that PZ will be happy maybe we go get Spiller now lol

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Well I guess I need to make a new sig now. I just wish it was for a higher pick, but with what little he has done, you can't expect a whole lot for him.

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Ted Ginn has told friends and teammates he has been traded to the San Francisco 49ers. The Dolphins are not commenting publicly but I got a text from a team source confirming the trade is done for a 2010 draft pick.

That pick will be a Saturday pick, I am told. That means a late-rounder guys.

[Update: It's a fifth-round pick.]



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for 5th round pick. Saw it on ESPN.

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Yeah, be thankful I'm not the GM.

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Ok we got 5th for Ginn. I wonder if he had the most value? Or if we still are looking to trade more (wr). If not P. Tuner get your pads ready you to P. White GAME TIME BABY

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Dave, merge my post with this one as I missed it when I posted. Ted has been a disappointment, but he was the deep speed guy that Miami does not have now.

Still, if you are a top 10 pick, you have to produce more than Ted produced for Miami. His fear of getting hit and running crossing routes hurt him a great deal and if you want to be a #1 WR, which he will never be, you have to run all of the route tree, not just the outs and deep routes.

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phinsfansc wrote:
Dave, merge my post with this one as I missed it when I posted. Ted has been a disappointment, but he was the deep speed guy that Miami does not have now.

Still, if you are a top 10 pick, you have to produce more than Ted produced for Miami. His fear of getting hit and running crossing routes hurt him a great deal and if you want to be a #1 WR, which he will never be, you have to run all of the route tree, not just the outs and deep routes.


Who runs a 4.3 or lower for the Saints or Colts?

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Yeah, I missed it Lokki. I asked Dave to merge the post.

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Dave, merge my post with this one as I missed it when I posted. Ted has been a disappointment, but he was the deep speed guy that Miami does not have now.

Still, if you are a top 10 pick, you have to produce more than Ted produced for Miami. His fear of getting hit and running crossing routes hurt him a great deal and if you want to be a #1 WR, which he will never be, you have to run all of the route tree, not just the outs and deep routes.

Truer words were never spoken. 9th pick he had his time to show us something. S.Rice was a 2nd round pick and they (qb) ?s and he still put up some solid #s

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I think this could be a telling sign that the phins are looking to get spiller with the 12th pick. Although Ginn wasn't a very good receiver he certainly was a threat to go on special teams. We need to get a legitimate playmaker on special teams and I seriously think the pick is Spiller at 12


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I think this could be a telling sign that the phins are looking to get spiller with the 12th pick. Although Ginn wasn't a very good receiver he certainly was a threat to go on special teams. We need to get a legitimate playmaker on special teams and I seriously think the pick is Spiller at 12

I think PZ's nipps just got hard lol. He has been after Spiller from the jump

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phinsfansc wrote:
Dave, merge my post with this one as I missed it when I posted. Ted has been a disappointment, but he was the deep speed guy that Miami does not have now.

Still, if you are a top 10 pick, you have to produce more than Ted produced for Miami. His fear of getting hit and running crossing routes hurt him a great deal and if you want to be a #1 WR, which he will never be, you have to run all of the route tree, not just the outs and deep routes.


Who runs a 4.3 or lower for the Saints or Colts?


Iowa, I know full well Ted Ginn is not a complete WR, but it still nice to have a kid that can stretch the field. Believe me, I understand the trade. Ginn was the 9th pick in the draft and he was nowhere near being a complete WR.

Thank you Cam Cameron.

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Maybe he will be able to help M. Crabtree get more 1on1 looks now. Nawwww....they will see he still is not a threat to catch and will let him run all day long

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I think this could be a telling sign that the phins are looking to get spiller with the 12th pick. Although Ginn wasn't a very good receiver he certainly was a threat to go on special teams. We need to get a legitimate playmaker on special teams and I seriously think the pick is Spiller at 12


Not necessarily. Miami got burnt by taking a special teamer with Ginn. Why do it again? You can get Trindon Holliday or Jacoby Ford later.

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phinsfansc wrote:
Iowafin wrote:
phinsfansc wrote:
Dave, merge my post with this one as I missed it when I posted. Ted has been a disappointment, but he was the deep speed guy that Miami does not have now.

Still, if you are a top 10 pick, you have to produce more than Ted produced for Miami. His fear of getting hit and running crossing routes hurt him a great deal and if you want to be a #1 WR, which he will never be, you have to run all of the route tree, not just the outs and deep routes.


Who runs a 4.3 or lower for the Saints or Colts?


Iowa, I know full well Ted Ginn is not a complete WR, but it still nice to have a kid that can stretch the field. Believe me, I understand the trade. Ginn was the 9th pick in the draft and he was nowhere near being a complete WR.

Thank you Cam Cameron.


Ted Ginn aside, people seem to think you have to have a guy that runs a 4.3 or faster in order to stretch the field. All you need are guys that can run good routes.
If you have at least one guy running deep (whether running a 4.3 or not), someone has to cover him, and then you run other things underneath. Eventually a misstep in coverage will get a guy open running deep.

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I think this could be a telling sign that the phins are looking to get spiller with the 12th pick. Although Ginn wasn't a very good receiver he certainly was a threat to go on special teams. We need to get a legitimate playmaker on special teams and I seriously think the pick is Spiller at 12


Not necessarily. Miami got burnt by taking a special teamer with Ginn. Why do it again? You can get Trindon Holliday or Jacoby Ford later.

There is speed out there and these guys can do the same thing Ginn did but.....catch the ball please

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5099673

we acquired a fifth rounder. trindon holiday will hopefully be returning kicks for us next year.


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5th rounder isn't too hateful, what pick in the 5th is it, and now does this mean that we are set at WR with Marshall, Bess, Camarillo, and Turner or do we draft someone like Jacoby Ford to fill Ginn's spot?


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rhoads30 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5099673

we acquired a fifth rounder. trindon holiday will hopefully be returning kicks for us next year.


I can swallow a 5th but to me a 6th or 7th is equivalent to trading him for a bag of footballs!..


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paydurt wrote:
rhoads30 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5099673

we acquired a fifth rounder. trindon holiday will hopefully be returning kicks for us next year.


I can swallow a 5th but to me a 6th or 7th is equivalent to trading him for a bag of footballs!..

:) :yay: :) your right

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paydurt wrote:
rhoads30 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5099673

we acquired a fifth rounder. trindon holiday will hopefully be returning kicks for us next year.


I can swallow a 5th but to me a 6th or 7th is equivalent to trading him for a bag of footballs!..



agreed, not many 6th and 7th round guys even make the team.


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Did we trade Ted Ginn's family along with him?

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Did we trade Ted Ginn's family along with him?

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yeah thats why we got the 5th not the 6th or 7th rounder we all thought he would bring us in return :yay:


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For me the single best thing about the Ginn trade is that 10ys from now maybe we will have moved past the obligatory "and his family" comments.

I have been accused of being an optimist before though.


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I understand the trade, but I really wanted to see what he could do opposite to Marshall this year. It could have been very interesting with his speed, but who knows.


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There goes another jersey I am going to have to "retire". If we end up trading Ronnie. I am gonna have to buy a whole new Dolphin wardrobe


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I would have loved to see what Ginn could do alongside Marshall, it's a shame we'll never know. I'm just glad they traded him to SF, where he probably won't have a chance to make us regret it.

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For me the single best thing about the Ginn trade is that 10ys from now maybe we will have moved past the obligatory "and his family" comments.

I have been accused of being an optimist before though.


Ted Ginn's mom thanks you for the optimism;)

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