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Post Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
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“I think my leaving created a situation that was not good for the Dolphins retrospectively,” Parcells, now an ESPN analyst and a 2013 Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee, said in a conference call with media Wednesday.

When Parcells was asked about what he considered the highs and lows of his Dolphins tenure, which lasted less than three seasons, he said: “I’ve thought about it a lot.”

Parcells indicated having a first-time owner (Stephen Ross), head coach (Tony Sparano) and GM (Jeff Ireland) created some challenges, calling it “a difficult dynamic, because everyone, rightfully so, wants to put their own mark on the franchise, and they have every right to do that.”

Parcells indicated he believes his departure created some “political” issues.

Said Parcells: “I saw things happen that I would have made every effort to try to avoid.”

Parcells didn’t mention any specific events. ...


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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
Who cares what you think Bill? Your style of football didn't work in Miami.

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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
i think his arrival hurt us even more.


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i think his arrival hurt us even more.


I agree, the ground & pound mentality doesn't work in today's NFL. It may cycle back around but it doesn't work now. I feel like our current staff understands this.


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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
Oh please, this guy is a legendary quitter, been coaching since 64, and aside from his time as HC of the Giants, he never spent more than 3 years in one spot, most times he was gone within a year.

He even quit on the Giants after getting the DC job in 79, he went to work outside of football...

Guy has some control and authority issues, even Belicheat picked going back to NE over working as HC with his long time friend.

We know you hurt the Dolphins, same way you hurt the other teams you screwed over. Seems the only team you did not hurt was Atlanta when you backed out of your deal to come here..

To think option # 2 for both Atlanta and Miami was Mike Smith.....

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He took the money and ran before he got the job done. If he had a conscience he'd give a big portion of it back for not delivering the goods.

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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
I lost a lot of respect for Parcells during his Dolphin years. Yeah I realize it was Miami's fault for thinking a good coach could be a good GM, but near the end I didn't think Parcells even cared anymore. I've had jobs I didn't like, but I never quit trying to do the best job I could.

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The biggest over-hyped, over-blown, over-rated HC of all time. I cannot believe how many sing his praises. Without a certain coach who is in NE with him, then man was very average.


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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
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The biggest over-hyped, over-blown, over-rated HC of all time. I cannot believe how many sing his praises. Without a certain coach who is in NE with him, then man was very average.


I agree. Growing up a Giant fan (before i moved here) when they played Buffalo in their super bowl win that certain coaches defensive scheme was brilliant. 3 down lineman & just punishing the receivers whenever they even touched the ball was unreal. I know it came down to a Norwood wide right but nobody thought the Giants would even be in that game. And of course when they beat Denver the Defense just dominated.

I will say though when he screwed Atlanta over to come here most here were pleased & predicted a super bowl within 3 years.

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I will say though when he screwed Atlanta over to come here most here were pleased & predicted a super bowl within 3 years.


I dont remember that. I remember most being pleased but I don't remember most predicting a SB in 3 years. I am sure some did but most ... not sure about that. Of course as my children remind me of often ... hmmm not sure what point I was about to make.


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I will say though when he screwed Atlanta over to come here most here were pleased & predicted a super bowl within 3 years.


I dont remember that. I remember most being pleased but I don't remember most predicting a SB in 3 years. I am sure some did but most ... not sure about that. Of course as my children remind me of often ... hmmm not sure what point I was about to make.


I don't remember that either Aqnor. I had my doubts when he came here.
Now Jimmy Johnson, that was a different story for me, I did think he would take us to the promised land.


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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
Although the Parcell years were tough he took over a bad situation and he made us a better football team. The culture around there had to be pretty rotten after that 1-15 fiasco. I hope to liken us to the 49ers who had a few years with Nolan and Singletary building a strong defensive unit and an offense that could run the ball and then Harbaugh came along and put it all together for them. I'm hoping Philbin is our guy to put these pieces together and give us a run to remember.


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AQNOR wrote:
FINesse wrote:
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I will say though when he screwed Atlanta over to come here most here were pleased & predicted a super bowl within 3 years.


I dont remember that. I remember most being pleased but I don't remember most predicting a SB in 3 years. I am sure some did but most ... not sure about that. Of course as my children remind me of often ... hmmm not sure what point I was about to make.


I don't remember that either Aqnor. I had my doubts when he came here.
Now Jimmy Johnson, that was a different story for me, I did think he would take us to the promised land.


I was excited for both of them when they were first hired. I had no doubt we'd win a Super Bowl with JJ. Now with the Tuna, I didn't expect a Super Bowl appearance, but I did expect a playoff team with a good foundation in place as he did with other teams. I think a lot of people here felt the same way.

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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
A few things, all of which are on Parcells, that set this team back after going from 1-15 to AFC East Champs:

1. Actually going from 1-15 to AFC East Champs. That hurt this team with a lower draft pick.

2. Drafting Vontae Davis over Clay Matthews.

3. Pat Friggin White

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The biggest over-hyped, over-blown, over-rated HC of all time. I cannot believe how many sing his praises. Without a certain coach who is in NE with him, then man was very average.


You mean the same coach who first spread his wings and left, compiling a 36-44 record before being fired and returning home to the nest?

Strange how good someone looks when surrounded by the right people compared to how they look without them.

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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
As to all the "Super Bowl within three years" comments.... I'm fairly certain I heard a few of those comments. But every fan of every underperforming team that gets a new GM/HC has basically those same expectations.


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He took the money and ran before he got the job done. If he had a conscience he'd give a big portion of it back for not delivering the goods.


THIS.......I remember being very excited when he took the job, but he turned out to be a huge disappointment.

The fact that he bailed after the team was sold pissed me off even further.

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As to all the "Super Bowl within three years" comments.... But every fan of every underperforming team that gets a new GM/HC has basically those same expectations.


Wait, that means.....
One more year and we are winning it all!!!!

WOOOHOOOO

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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
I was never excited with the Parcells hire. I was, however, ecstatic at the time over the Satan hire and thought he would take us to the promised land.


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2. Drafting Vontae Davis over Clay Matthews.


I definitely didn't understand that at the time either.

Don't forget drafting Chad Henne. If the guy wasn't a touchdown machine in college, what made him think he could do it in the pros?

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You mean the same coach who first spread his wings and left, compiling a 36-44 record before being fired and returning home to the nest?

Comments like these get made when someone just does a quick scan at a record & pays no attention to the details.

1991 6 -10
1992 7 - 9
1993 7 - 9
1994 11 - 5 ( Winning One Playoff game )
1995 5 - 11? What was the owner of the Browns doing in 1995 that would undermined a coach?

So basically he turned the Browns into a playoff team in 4 years after taking over a 3 win team in 1990, doubling their wins in his first yr. Without the moving of the franchise from Cleveland working against him in 1995 then Cleveland would be a there again.

Horrible coaching job and naive comment to make about him not doing a good job in Cleveland.


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Strange how good someone looks when surrounded by the right people compared to how they look without them.
You got it. Why I said Parcells is the most over-hyped, over-blown, over-rated coach in NFL History.


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A few things, all of which are on Parcells, that set this team back after going from 1-15 to AFC East Champs:

1. Actually going from 1-15 to AFC East Champs. That hurt this team with a lower draft pick.

2. Drafting Vontae Davis over Clay Matthews.

3. Pat Friggin White

Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan was one of his biggest mistakes. I know the lead on this was after 2008.

Players Miami could have taken instead of White ( in no certain order )
1: Shady McCoy - RB
2: Max Unger - C
3: Andy Levitre - G
4: Phil Loadholt - T
5: William Moore - S
6: Sebastian Vollmer - T

Just to name a few. Miami missed out on some quality player by draft a gimmick Qb.


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Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan was one of his biggest mistakes. I know the lead on this was after 2008.


The quarterback position is definitely more telling in the wins and losses than a very good left tackle.


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Miami missed out on some quality player by draft a gimmick Qb.


A high second round pick should be a guaranteed starter by at least year two. Missing in the 2nd round was a huge set back in the team's development ... especially when the team was lacking talent to begin with.

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Post Re: Bill Parcells believes his departure hurt the Dolphins
Here is another mover I did not like. Patrick Turner over Jared Cook in the 3rd..

Lets not forget the John Jerry over Jimmy Graham.

Heck, what were his good moves?


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Here is another mover I did not like. Patrick Turner over Jared Cook in the 3rd..

Lets not forget the John Jerry over Jimmy Graham.

Heck, what were his good moves?


You're depressing me, Scot. This team does not have room for any more whiffs. Our ineffective drafts in the past is why this team is always treading water.

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All that is in the past now. How ironic when we win the super bowl on the Jets home field.

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