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Post Dolphins’ Koa Misi: Our defense can be great
Well, we'll just have to see.

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Dolphins’ Koa Misi: Our defense can be great
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We’ll have to wait a few months to find out if the 2013 Dolphins are really a good team. But it’s clear that they think they’re a really good team. Misi definitely needs to step up or the Dolphins will draft his replacement ... if they haven't all ready.

The latest Dolphin to talk up the team is linebacker Koa Misi, who said he believes the defense will be not just good but great this season.

“We can be great,” Misi told the Miami Herald. “We’ve got a lot of new guys. They’re trying to learn the defense right now. The guys that they brought in to play in this defense and bring it to where we need to be, I think they did a good job in that.”

Among the other boasts we’ve heard from the Dolphins this offseason have been claims that Ryan Tannehill will be one of the great quarterbacks, that the arrival of Mike Wallace gives them the best receivers in the division and that they’re planning to “make some noise.”

Dolphins fans will have to hope that the noise isn’t all talk.


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Post Re: Dolphins’ Koa Misi: Our defense can be great
But can you Mr. Misi?


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But can you Mr. Misi?


Hate to break it to ya, but he ranked as the 10th best 4-3 OLB in the NFL last season according to PFF. He ranked 15th in pass coverage and 9th in run stopping.

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Post Re: Dolphins’ Koa Misi: Our defense can be great
yup. All 3 of our linebackers were well ranked last year.

and I agree with Misi. As much as everyone is talking about our offense, I think it's our defense that will be the elite unit.


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yup. All 3 of our linebackers were well ranked last year.

and I agree with Misi. As much as everyone is talking about our offense, I think it's our defense that will be the elite unit.


I had said it all off season, for me the most important team stats are points. Points scored by the offense vs points allowed by defense.

2012 we ranked 7th in the NFL on defense giving up only 19.8 points per game.. We were bottom of the pack on offense only scoring 18.

We should be an elite unit IMO. We basically swapped or added talent, cant say any real big play makers on defense are gone.

Offense I have my fingers crossed, so long as RT can stay upright, and Miller has a hole to run through we should be a lot better... But that is something I will need to see in Sept before I start booking my SB reservations lol...

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Hate to break it to ya, but he ranked as the 10th best 4-3 OLB in the NFL last season according to PFF. He ranked 15th in pass coverage and 9th in run stopping.

You're not breaking anything to me Rich. A "great" defense makes plays when the game is on the line, not giving up chunks of yards and letting the other team score. Misi himself is not great. Show me him as a an all pro, all defense/LB, or pro bowler.


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Hate to break it to ya, but he ranked as the 10th best 4-3 OLB in the NFL last season according to PFF. He ranked 15th in pass coverage and 9th in run stopping.

You're not breaking anything to me Rich. A "great" defense makes plays when the game is on the line, not giving up chunks of yards and letting the other team score. Misi himself is not great. Show me him as a an all pro, all defense/LB, or pro bowler.


So the counterargument is that something as subjctive as being in the Pro Bowl defines a player as great?

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Post Re: Dolphins’ Koa Misi: Our defense can be great
Of course they can be great with the new talent we have now, just got to do it


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He was a converted 4-3 DE in college, so, he's had to learn the linebacker position. I don't think we'll ever seen him get an interception, but he did force 2 fumbles last year. He's stout against the run, but I think the Dolphins expected more sacks from him. Since we don't hear his name called out much, I think it is easy for us to think that he doesn't make an impact. According to PFF he is very efficient.

There is a discrepancy in the stats thought. PFF has Misi with 6 sacks last year, but he only had 3.5.

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stats sometimes lie. stats say we always have great players , the stat of games won says we dont.

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stats sometimes lie. stats say we always have great players , the stat of games won says we dont.


I dont see any lying stats... I see a tough defense that did not give up a lot of points, and a dull offense that could not score.

Our defense was tough because of the effort of guys like Misi.

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FINesse wrote:
stats sometimes lie. stats say we always have great players , the stat of games won says we dont.


I dont see any lying stats... I see a tough defense that did not give up a lot of points, and a dull offense that could not score.

Our defense was tough because of the effort of guys like Misi.


While I somewhat agree I just remember in too many crunch times just saying we need a stop and it did not happen. But hey , its all in the past now and I have no doubt that we are now elite on all 3 levels.

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But hey , its all in the past now and I have no doubt that we are now elite on all 3 levels.


LOL yeah we all can dream


I kept my voice down during the draft, but still shocks me that we did not address the offense til round 3, and did not really draft anyone I would consider a "play maker" on offense.

The FA pick ups should give our offense a nice boost, at least Keller and Wallace in the passing game. But I worry about an unproven RB and a questionable o-line..

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So the counterargument is that something as subjctive as being in the Pro Bowl defines a player as great?

No it doesn't. Playmakers and wins define "greatness". Misi is not a playmaker, nor is he great. As a defense, we need more turnovers and big plays.


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So the counterargument is that something as subjctive as being in the Pro Bowl defines a player as great?

No it doesn't. Playmakers and wins define "greatness". Misi is not a playmaker, nor is he great. As a defense, we need more turnovers and big plays.


As an outside linebacker in a 4-3, 3.5 sacks and 2 forced fumbles is not bad.

Neither is being a top 10 player at the position in the NFL.

Also, offensive linemen aren't "playmakers", so I guess no great offensive linemen exist...

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Also, offensive linemen aren't "playmakers", so I guess no great offensive linemen exist...


Jason Taylor was a great player on a not so great team his whole career.. W/L do not define individual effort unless its a QB, and even then there are other factors.

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Just posting my opinion. There were times when Misi took bad angles on tackles and he got torched as well. Again, he's not great. Keep spinning your responses Rich.


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Just posting my opinion. There were times when Misi took bad angles on tackles and he got torched as well. Again, he's not great. Keep spinning your responses Rich.


You keep posting opinions, I'll keep using facts.

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You know, Misi was never a sack machine in college. I never knew why we drafted him for that purpose anyways.

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As an outside linebacker in a 4-3, 3.5 sacks and 2 forced fumbles is not bad.


Yep, keep using facts.....lol. Anyway Rich. Thanks for your opinion on Misi. We just disagree, keep posting, I'm sure you'll want the last word.


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Makchell wrote:
Thanks for your opinion on Misi.


I haven't given my opinion of Misi. I simply pointed out that he ranked top 10 at 4-3 OLB based on PFF metrics.

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