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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:58 am 
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“Dogfight” anticipated over offsets in Jordan deal
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Over the weekend, we explained that folks in league circles are keeping an eye on the looming negotiations between the Dolphins and defensive end Dion Jordan, anticipating a squabble over offsets.

Even though the Dolphins moved from No. 12 to No. 3 to select Jordan, it’s believed that the Dolphins will continue their trend of insisting on the placement of offset language in deals that provide guaranteed money to the player.

One source with direct knowledge of the situation says that a “dogfight” is coming on the issue between the Dolphins and Jordan.

Five years ago, I would have cringed a little over the use of the term “dogfight.” But that’s what the source said, which shows how time tends to take the stink out of a term that went from being a perfectly acceptable sports cliché to having a taint.

(And, yes, Beavis. I said taint.)

Last year, quarterback Ryan Tannehill missed part of training camp over the issue. It remains to be seen whether and to what extend Jordan digs in if/when the Dolphins insist on the use of offset language, which simply means that Jordan won’t be able to double dip if he’s cut during his four-year contract and signs elsewhere.

At some point, the player surely will blink, since the alternative is to sit out the entire season and re-enter the draft. And not play in 2013, and not get paid.


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Jordan was a player Ireland "had to get" so I would not expect the FO to put up a big fight when it comes to the language.

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If I have to hear about offset language one more time....


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The rookie scale was a step in the right direction. The next step is to have the contract as incentive only. The 3rd step is pay in case the player gets hurt.


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Makchell wrote:
The rookie scale was a step in the right direction. The next step is to have the contract as incentive only. The 3rd step is pay in case the player gets hurt.

No way that will ever happen. The NFL is already so much better from a contract standpoint than other sports. They've pushed it as far as they can push it, I think.


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I'm sure they'll just throw a little more money up front at him like they did with Tannehill and it will get settled. I fully expect Jordan to be at training camp, playing in the preseason, and ready to go week one.


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Phins Rock wrote:
Makchell wrote:
The rookie scale was a step in the right direction. The next step is to have the contract as incentive only. The 3rd step is pay in case the player gets hurt.

No way that will ever happen. The NFL is already so much better from a contract standpoint than other sports. They've pushed it as far as they can push it, I think.



I agree JP......No other team sports has what the NFL has in regards to contacts that are not guaranteed.

The players are not and SHOULD not give up anything else.

Whatever needs to be done, get it done and get Dion in camp.

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Phins Rock wrote:
Makchell wrote:
The rookie scale was a step in the right direction. The next step is to have the contract as incentive only. The 3rd step is pay in case the player gets hurt.

No way that will ever happen. The NFL is already so much better from a contract standpoint than other sports. They've pushed it as far as they can push it, I think.



I agree JP......No other team sports has what the NFL has in regards to contacts that are not guaranteed.

The players are not and SHOULD not give up anything else.

Whatever needs to be done, get it done and get Dion in camp.


The idea that players have "given up" something in regards to contract negotiations is a red herring. The players, through their union, agreed to everything in the current system. It may not always benefit individual players, but then again what union agreement doesn't screw over individuals? This is the system they wanted and heartily agreed to. They didn't "give up" anything at all.

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