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 Round 1, Pick 3 - Fins trade up takes Oregon OLB Dion Jordan
Miami trades up to take Oregon OLB Dion Jordan
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The Miami Dolphins made the 1st big move of the 2013 NFL Draft by trading up with the Oakland Raiders at #3 to take OLB/DE Dion Jordan of Oregon. There were rumors that the Dolphins would look to possibly trade up or trade down, and when the move up was made, the thought was the pick would be OLT Lane Johnson of Oklahoma. Miami threw everyone a curve with this selection, and they took the most talented pass rusher in the draft.

Jordan has tremendous verstality, as the Ducks used Dion in pass coverage as well as in pass rush situation. At 6'6 1/4, 248 lbs, Dion has the frame that can and needs to add weight and strength. The comparisons have been made to one Jason Taylor, and Jordan brings the Dolphins another potent pass rusher to help get after the quarterback.

To make the move up to #3, the Dolphins gave up their pick at #12 & their 1st 2nd round pick, #42. Great trade up for Miami and they still have the ability to either complete the trade with Kansas City for OLT Branden Albert, or go get a young OLT.

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Dolphins trade/swap the #12 over all pick for the # 3 overall pick with the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders also get the Dolphins 42 overall pick.



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Jordan arrived in Eugene as a top-10 nationally rated tight end prospect from the southern suburbs of Phoenix -- despite missing the end of his senior season after an accidental home fire left him with second or third-degree burns over almost half of his body. Oregon coaches actually wanted him to play receiver initially, but his continued growth through his first two seasons in Eugene pushed him first to tight end and then to the defensive side of the ball.

He showed promise after moving across the line during spring 2010 practices, playing in 13 games and starting one at defensive end (5.5 tackles for loss, two sacks) as a redshirt sophomore. But the move really bore fruit when he earned first-team All-PAC 12 honors in 2011 as a 12-game starter at his hybrid defensive end/linebacker position (42 tackles, 13 for loss, team-high 7.5 sacks). Jordan continued working at his drop end, outside linebacker spot in 2012, recording 44 total tackles, 10.5 going for a loss, including five sacks. The Duck forced three fumbles and intercepted one pass. He only played in 11 full games after missing parts or the entirety of three others with a shoulder injury. It has been reported Jordan will miss the Senior Bowl to undergo surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder.

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Strengths-Tall end/linebacker hybrid with excellent length. Definitely not contact-shy, extends his long arms to land a strong punch on blockers, can disengage to chase plays from behind or grab ballcarriers coming into his area. Also willing to mix it up when challenged. Long strides allow him to cover ground quickly when closing or after his strong get-off with his hand down, but also shows enough bend and short-area quickness to avoid linemen. Lines up against slot receivers and tight ends, managing to stay with them in the open field in spite of his size. Flashes quickness and bend to beat tackles around the corner, can counter with an inside rush or spin move. Also quick enough to flatten down the line to make plays on inside runs. Willing to stick his shoulder into a lead blocker to free up other defenders.

Weaknesses-Might be an end/linebacker ‘tweener for some teams due to his tall, lean frame. Must improve upper-body strength to get off blocks and gain leverage against NFL-caliber linemen. His height will make it more difficult for him to get low to stop ballcarriers’ momentum or corral them in the open field. Inconsistent working through initial contact to chase plays and finding the ball in the backfield. Susceptible to cut blocks in space, must learn to see and beat them with his hands. Can get knocked off his pass rush route by a strong punch.

NFL Comparison-Julian Peterson
Bottom LineJordan's 2012 season ended on a down note, aggravating a shoulder injury during the team's bowl game. He will miss the Senior Bowl and part of the draft process because of it, but Jordan offers a unique blend of comfort in space, length, and pass rush ability. His box scores may not appeal to everyone, but Jordan was frequently asked to cover receivers or tight ends after lining up in the slot opposite them. His future appears to be at strongside linebacker in a four man front, with the ability to rush the passer, or as an outside linebacker in a three-man front.

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So, do you like the pick or not?

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Surprised. Did not see this coming at all. Still digesting it. A defining Ireland moment.


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I was shocked myself, but if he can play as well as Ireland thinks can play, can you imagine a quarterback having Jordan and Cam Wake coming at him? It could lead to more turnovers and give quarterbacks less time to pick on our corners.

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Yep Bd hope you are right.


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Still digesting this move. Right now I'm on the fence. Would preferred more on field production, but that might be because he was ask to do other things.

Would rather see him compared to LT who was drafted at No. 2 instead of JT who was a 3rd Rd. pick.


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Look out Brady!

Should make the DBs jobs a lot easier too!

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Still digesting this move. Right now I'm on the fence. Would preferred more on field production, but that might be because he was ask to do other things.

Would rather see him compared to LT who was drafted at No. 2 instead of JT who was a 3rd Rd. pick.


If he does what JT did that is enough for me.


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Quite surprising but awesome


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Only gave up 42 ... Awesome


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MY BOY!

Love this pick so much.


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Look out Brady!

Should make the DBs jobs a lot easier too!


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DRAFT ANALYSIS
What he brings: At 6-foot-6 and 248 pounds, Jordan has a rare combination of length and athleticism. He is one of the most versatile edge players in this class, with the ability to line up at various spots along the defensive front and rush off the edge or cover receivers in space. He needs to continue to add bulk and strength, but his upside as a pass-rusher and overall high ceiling make him an intriguing prospect.

How he fits: The more you look at what the Dolphins are doing on defense, the more this seems like an interesting fit. As a rangy guy who can play a 4-3 DE spot as the Dolphins transition from their old 3-4 front under new coordinator Kevin Coyle, Jordan has excellent edge pass-rush skills. But he also has the athletic ability, when they go to their hybrid 3-4 look, to either rush off the edge or drop into coverage. This defense will resemble the Cincinnati attacking scheme, and Jordan ran a high volume of plays in Oregon's up-tempo defense. He can team with Cameron Wake to give the Dolphins a terrific edge-rush package.


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We hosed Oak to move up that far for only a 2nd. Nobody knows yet whether the played will be worth it but the logic behind the swap is great!

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Ireland must have had a conviction about him.

Maybe he finally learned from the giants how to beat NE.


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I've been saying it all offseason to draft a DE. It will help our secondary and force turnovers.


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My question is this, where will he play? When I first saw this pick I was thinking defensive end all the way because of his size. But from what I've read about the kid, they say he was asked to cover runningbacks and tightends at Oregon, and that he would likely translate to a strong side linebacker in a four man front. So maybe Jordan is replacing Misi?

This is a section from his NFL.com scouting report.
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Jordan offers a unique blend of comfort in space, length, and pass rush ability. His box scores may not appeal to everyone, but Jordan was frequently asked to cover receivers or tight ends after lining up in the slot opposite them. His future appears to be at strongside linebacker in a four man front, with the ability to rush the passer, or as an outside linebacker in a three-man front.


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Dion Jordan is 250 pounds...and has a 3.8% body fat....3.8%....at 250 pounds.

His 10 yard split is 1.56.....Tavon Austin's was 1.50.


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My question is this, where will he play? When I first saw this pick I was thinking defensive end all the way because of his size. But from what I've read about the kid, they say he was asked to cover runningbacks and tightends at Oregon, and that he would likely translate to a strong side linebacker in a four man front. So maybe Jordan is replacing Misi?

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Jordan offers a unique blend of comfort in space, length, and pass rush ability. His box scores may not appeal to everyone, but Jordan was frequently asked to cover receivers or tight ends after lining up in the slot opposite them. His future appears to be at strongside linebacker in a four man front, with the ability to rush the passer, or as an outside linebacker in a three-man front.


He'll move all over. They'll use a lot of hybrid formations with him, Wheeler, Ellerbe, Misi and Vernon all providing a lot of versatility.

But he's a pass rusher on 3rd down, make no mistake about it.


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I will say this if he is a hit then Brady will never be the same again with Odrick and Starks inside and now Wake and a possible beast on the other side


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I'll tell you what, if Dion is legit year 1, Wake might go for 20 sacks.


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wkloiber13 wrote:
My question is this, where will he play? When I first saw this pick I was thinking defensive end all the way because of his size. But from what I've read about the kid, they say he was asked to cover runningbacks and tightends at Oregon, and that he would likely translate to a strong side linebacker in a four man front. So maybe Jordan is replacing Misi?

This is a section from his NFL.com scouting report.
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Jordan offers a unique blend of comfort in space, length, and pass rush ability. His box scores may not appeal to everyone, but Jordan was frequently asked to cover receivers or tight ends after lining up in the slot opposite them. His future appears to be at strongside linebacker in a four man front, with the ability to rush the passer, or as an outside linebacker in a three-man front.


He'll move all over. They'll use a lot of hybrid formations with him, Wheeler, Ellerbe, Misi and Vernon all providing a lot of versatility.

But he's a pass rusher on 3rd down, make no mistake about it.


At 3rd overall he had better be a lot more than a pass rush specialist. At 3rd overall you take a guy that impacts every down and makes plays in all situations. Whether it be tackles for loss, sacks, knock downs, pressures, forced fumbles, interceptions, passes defended, you name it. Dion Jordan was taken to affect every defensive snap. He's not just expected to take pressure off of Wake, he's expected to be a second game changer for us on defense. The expectations for a 3rd overall pick are that he's just as good if not better than Wake.

This defense has gotten a lot younger, a lot faster, and a lot more dynamic in my opinion. I wasn't expecting this move at all. But now that it has happened, I love it. I think this kid is going to be an impactful player for us on defense. Now we just need to snag an offensive tackle, a cornerback, a tightend, and a runningback and I think we'll be set going into the season.


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Jordan I think played te, lb and de from high school to college so he has all the speed and athleticism to be a monster and plus i think that he can at least give the Patriots tight ends some issues where they wont just dominate him in coverage


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I will say this if he is a hit then Brady will never be the same again with Odrick and Starks inside and now Wake and a possible beast on the other side


Odrick will stay outside at DE across from Wake. I think Jordan is going to replace Misi as our strong side outside linebacker.


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Jordan I think played te, lb and de from high school to college so he has all the speed and athleticism to be a monster and plus i think that he can at least give the Patriots tight ends some issues where they wont just dominate him in coverage


Excellent point. This kid has the size, speed, and athleticism to match up on Gronkowski and hopefully shut him down in the redzone.


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ag_fin_90 wrote:
I will say this if he is a hit then Brady will never be the same again with Odrick and Starks inside and now Wake and a possible beast on the other side


Odrick will stay outside at DE across from Wake. I think Jordan is going to replace Misi as our strong side outside linebacker.

Hell no he is a pass rusher first, now i think he plays linebacker against Gronk, Hernandez, Graham this year, Gonzalez, Olsen. Eifert, Gresham when needed but to replace Misi? no way


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ag_fin_90 wrote:
I will say this if he is a hit then Brady will never be the same again with Odrick and Starks inside and now Wake and a possible beast on the other side


Odrick will stay outside at DE across from Wake. I think Jordan is going to replace Misi as our strong side outside linebacker.

Vernon would be the de if anything and Odrick stays inside with Starks


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This is from Bill Polian, and I think he does a GREAT job of explaining how Dion will be used by Kevin Croyle.



Bill Polian breaks down the Dolphins' selection of Dion Jordan.
What he brings: At 6-foot-6 and 248 pounds, Jordan has a rare combination of length and athleticism. He is one of the most versatile edge players in this class, with the ability to line up at various spots along the defensive front and rush off the edge or cover receivers in space. He needs to continue to add bulk and strength, but his upside as a pass-rusher and overall high ceiling make him an intriguing prospect.

How he fits: The more you look at what the Dolphins are doing on defense, the more this seems like an interesting fit. As a rangy guy who can play a 4-3 DE spot as the Dolphins transition from their old 3-4 front under new coordinator Kevin Coyle, Jordan has excellent edge pass-rush skills. But he also has the athletic ability, when they go to their hybrid 3-4 look, to either rush off the edge or drop into coverage. This defense will resemble the Cincinnati attacking scheme, and Jordan ran a high volume of plays in Oregon's up-tempo defense. He can team with Cameron Wake to give the Dolphins a terrific edge-rush package.

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I will say this if he is a hit then Brady will never be the same again with Odrick and Starks inside and now Wake and a possible beast on the other side


Odrick will stay outside at DE across from Wake. I think Jordan is going to replace Misi as our strong side outside linebacker.

Hell no he is a pass rusher first, now i think he plays linebacker against Gronk, Hernandez, Graham this year, Gonzalez, Olsen. Eifert, Gresham when needed but to replace Misi? no way


I've read that his game projects to him playing strongside linebacker in a 4-3 at the next level. He isn't a true defensive end. He wasn't asked to put his hand in the dirt at all at Oregon. He's a Sam linebacker, the same position Misi plays. Do the math, he's likely replacing Misi.


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Odrick will stay outside at DE across from Wake. I think Jordan is going to replace Misi as our strong side outside linebacker.[/quote]
Hell no he is a pass rusher first, now i think he plays linebacker against Gronk, Hernandez, Graham this year, Gonzalez, Olsen. Eifert, Gresham when needed but to replace Misi? no way[/quote]

His game projects to him playing strongside linebacker in a 4-3 at the next level. He isn't a true defensive end. He wasn't asked to put his hand in the dirt at all at Oregon. He's a Sam linebacker, the same position Misi plays. Do the math, he's replacing Misi. Odrick and Vernon will play DE across from Wake again this year. But you are right about one thing, this kid will bring a dynamic pass rush to the position, something we previously didn't have.[/quote]


That's Oregons fault if they used him that way and they play literally what 14 front 7 guys a game so they don't use players to be that successful. Everywhere I have ever read and everytime I have seen him I think he can be JPP or Jason Taylor and if I am wrong then why did nobody project him in the 20s like Ogletree and Te'o?


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This is from Bill Polian, and I think he does a GREAT job of explaining how Dion will be used by Kevin Croyle.



Bill Polian breaks down the Dolphins' selection of Dion Jordan.
What he brings: At 6-foot-6 and 248 pounds, Jordan has a rare combination of length and athleticism. He is one of the most versatile edge players in this class, with the ability to line up at various spots along the defensive front and rush off the edge or cover receivers in space. He needs to continue to add bulk and strength, but his upside as a pass-rusher and overall high ceiling make him an intriguing prospect.

How he fits: The more you look at what the Dolphins are doing on defense, the more this seems like an interesting fit. As a rangy guy who can play a 4-3 DE spot as the Dolphins transition from their old 3-4 front under new coordinator Kevin Coyle, Jordan has excellent edge pass-rush skills. But he also has the athletic ability, when they go to their hybrid 3-4 look, to either rush off the edge or drop into coverage. This defense will resemble the Cincinnati attacking scheme, and Jordan ran a high volume of plays in Oregon's up-tempo defense. He can team with Cameron Wake to give the Dolphins a terrific edge-rush package.


I think honestly he's a better fit as a Sam linebacker. On 1st and 2nd down he gives us a bigger more athletic player versus the run. Obviously Odrick is the better suited player to play the end on rushing downs. Then on 3rd down he adds another dimension to our pass rush by providing a strong pass rush from the Sam linebacker position.
Lets face it, Misi was a one dimensional run stopper at the Sam. Bringing in Dion Jordan is a huge upgrade to our linebacking group.


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He is the guy that can create a lot of headaches because he can play all over. Hands down, one of the best moves in this draft so far. I'm ecstatic. Jordan will be a difference maker.


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Vernon would be the de if anything and Odrick stays inside with Starks


Vernon is not a 4-3 DE. He's primarily linebacker.

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Vernon would be the de if anything and Odrick stays inside with Starks


Vernon is not a 4-3 DE. He's primarily linebacker.

He was at UM he just had bad coaching but to me like Jordan is athletic enough to do both when needed


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I love the pick. Ireland came out swinging, not playing it safe. He took an amazing DE/OLB, that can grow and become something special. Maybe even the second coming of JT. Dion Jordan has amazing potential. What makes the trade even better was what Ireland gave up for him. This has been my favorite offseason thus far. If Ireland keeps this going, then maybe this is what we get when parcells and sporano are gone and Jeff is left to make moves with the insight of philbin and coyle.

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Post Re: Round 1, Pick 3 - Fins trade up takes Oregon OLB Dion Jordan
ag_fin_90 wrote:
He was at UM he just had bad coaching but to me like Jordan is athletic enough to do both when needed


Gonna disagree again.

Jordan is on another level compared to Vernon. Olivier was decent in run support, but to this point he does not look like a natural pass rusher.

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