Rich wrote:
AFCMiamiEast wrote:
Roll Martin to LT and sign Winston at RT.
So put an even bigger question mark on Tannehill's blindside and then replace him with a guy on the wrong side of 30? I'm not sure in the longterm that is the much cheaper route. You get what you pay for.
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and teams with "elite" or above average lines are non playoff caliber teams for a reason, they have invested heavily in their lines and neglected play makers.
The top rated pass protecting offensive line in the NFL was the Denver Broncos offensive line, with elite left tackle Ryan Clady by the way.
The Bengals, 49ers, Patriots and Texans, all playoff teams, were in the top 10 in pass protection.
From a run blocking perspective, the 49ers, who played in the Superbowl, were the top rated run blocking team. They've invested heavily in offensive line throughout the years. The Patriots were 2nd. They have invested high picks on linemen as well. The Redskins were 9th. Same thing.
So I am not sure where you got this notion that teams with elite or above average offensive lines are not playoff caliber teams.
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I realize we have spent big on Wallace, but we need another high caliber guy as well. Hartline is alright, but we need more speed behind Wallace. We don't need to invest big money on the o-line.
We can acquire more skill position talent in the draft. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Those teams have elite quarterbacks (outside of Kaepernick), especially New England and Denver. Peyton/Brady would do just fine on an average offensive line. Albert plays for the Chiefs, Thomas plays for the Browns, Long played for us. Here is a list of the highest paid offensive linemen from last season, notice the trend here:
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Centers
1. Nick Mangold, Jets – $5,362,600
2. Ryan Kalil, Panthers – $5,100,000
3. David Baas, Giants – $4,950,000
4. Eugen Amano, Titans – $4,632,500
5. Chris Myers, Texans – $4,500,000
6. Scott Wells, Rams – $4,500,000
7. Jeff Saturday, Packers – $4,000,000
8. John Sullivan, Vikings – $4,000,000
9. Chris Spencer, Bears – $3,750,000
10. Jonathan Goodwin, 49ers – $3,716,667
Guards
1. Carl Nicks, Buccaneers – $12,500,000
2. Davin Joseph, Buccaneers – $9,500,000
3. Chris Snee, Giants – $7,900,000
4. Logan Mankins, Patriots – $7,000,000
5. Marshall Yanda, Ravens – $6,500,000
6. Uche Nwaneri, Jaguars – $4,191,666
7. Harvey Dahl, Rams – $4,000,000
8. Todd Herremans, Eagles – $3,800,000
9. Jahri Evans, Saints – $3,600,000
10. Chris Kuper, Broncos – $3,500,000
Tackles
1. Jake Long, Dolphins – $11,200,000
2. Trent Williams, Redskins – $11,000,000
3. Joe Thomas, Browns – $10,500,000
4. Jason Smith, Rams – $10,000,000
5. Jordan Gross, Panthers – $9,500,000
6. Jason Peters, Eagles – $8,250,000
7. Michael Roos, Titans – $7,300,000
8. Andre Smith, Bengals – $6,508,000
9. David Stewart, Titans – $6,200,000
10. Donald Penn, Buccaneers – $5,900,000
Every player on the top of those lists is on a losing team. Albert's number would definitely be up there. There are more teams that did not make the playoffs than not, you don't need to invest $9m annually on an OT to have a good team. If Tannehill NEEDS a $9m LT for him to succeed, that would be very worrisome. In the next couple seasons, Pouncey is going to be demanding Nick Mangold type money, that would be near $15m just on two offensive linemen alone.
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