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eleaf
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 This black background is killing my eyes.
Light background, dark text. Uniformity with the front page is a lofty goal, but not at the expense of readability.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:56 am |
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Big Dave
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
eleaf wrote: Light background, dark text. Uniformity with the front page is a lofty goal, but not at the expense of readability. I was wondering how that was working for you all. I was starting to think it was just because I'm as old as dirt;) Anyone else?
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:44 am |
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Rich
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Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:59 am Posts: 18193 Location: Miami, FL
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Big Dave wrote: eleaf wrote: Light background, dark text. Uniformity with the front page is a lofty goal, but not at the expense of readability. I was wondering how that was working for you all. I was starting to think it was just because I'm as old as dirt;) Anyone else? The font could be a little bigger. But I wouldn't change anything else.
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IamPZ
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Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:24 am Posts: 3227 Location: Tuxedo Park, NY
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
I've recently started to change my own site from "light on dark" back to "dark on light"... it seems to be much much easier to read.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:53 am |
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Coots
Phinfever Design Admin
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:37 am Posts: 3544 Location: Sweet Home ALABAMA!
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Well ... if we need to, now is the time to change the forums. Not later down the road when we have 10 mods installed on a style.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:02 pm |
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phinsfanmel
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
If you guys can get back as close as possible to the way it used to be that would be great, definately needs a splash of aqua somewhere.
Nice job anyway!
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:21 pm |
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Coots
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Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:37 am Posts: 3544 Location: Sweet Home ALABAMA!
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
phinsfanmel wrote: If you guys can get back as close as possible to the way it used to be that would be great, definately needs a splash of aqua somewhere.
Nice job anyway! PZ and I are going to work on the forum design this weekend (Sat.) so just hang in there with us guys.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:31 pm |
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eleaf
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Good. I'm not the only one. I can't stay on the site for more than a few minutes without my eyes going haywire. There's a reason we bleach the pulp that becomes paper, and not darken it.
It is simply easier to read dark on light. We figured that out over 2000 years ago.
And yes, the lack of aqua in the design, other than the logo at the top, is just plain wrong!
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IamPZ
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Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:24 am Posts: 3227 Location: Tuxedo Park, NY
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Lol default design guys... give us some time, a bunch of us brainstormed the homepage and that looks great... the forums will get there.
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Coots
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
eleaf wrote: Good. I'm not the only one. I can't stay on the site for more than a few minutes without my eyes going haywire. There's a reason we bleach the pulp that becomes paper, and not darken it.
It is simply easier to read dark on light. We figured that out over 2000 years ago.
And yes, the lack of aqua in the design, other than the logo at the top, is just plain wrong! You are more than welcome to jump in on the design team and give us your thoughts and your skills needed to carry out the overall design of the forum. If you want to help with the css / php /html of it all, give us a PM.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:12 pm |
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Rich
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Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:59 am Posts: 18193 Location: Miami, FL
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
eleaf wrote: There's a reason we bleach the pulp that becomes paper, and not darken it. Because most ink and lead is dark...
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eleaf
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Coots wrote: eleaf wrote: Good. I'm not the only one. I can't stay on the site for more than a few minutes without my eyes going haywire. There's a reason we bleach the pulp that becomes paper, and not darken it.
It is simply easier to read dark on light. We figured that out over 2000 years ago.
And yes, the lack of aqua in the design, other than the logo at the top, is just plain wrong! You are more than welcome to jump in on the design team and give us your thoughts and your skills needed to carry out the overall design of the forum. If you want to help with the css / php /html of it all, give us a PM. I could help (as in I have experience with CSS), but I'm slow. I could likely come up with something good, but it would take FOOOOOOORRRRRRRRREEEEEEVVVVVEEEEERRRRRR.
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eleaf
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Rich wrote: eleaf wrote: There's a reason we bleach the pulp that becomes paper, and not darken it. Because most ink and lead is dark... Inks were specially blended (shop to shop in most cases during the middle ages) and just about any color was possible for early writers.
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Rich
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
eleaf wrote: Inks were specially blended (shop to shop in most cases during the middle ages) and just about any color was possible for early writers. I did not realize "we" were still in the "middle ages".
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eleaf
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Rich wrote: eleaf wrote: Inks were specially blended (shop to shop in most cases during the middle ages) and just about any color was possible for early writers. I did not realize "we" were still in the "middle ages". All of writing technology descended from the middle ages, but something tells me you're lookin' to pick a fight.
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Rich
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
eleaf wrote: but something tells me you're lookin' to pick a fight. Not at all, but it is a little irritating to have someone who only wants to keep complaining despite the hard work that was put in to get the forums back up and running. You don't seem appreciative at all but seem ready to chime in continually on what YOU want the forums to look like.
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IamPZ
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Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:24 am Posts: 3227 Location: Tuxedo Park, NY
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
eleaf wrote: Coots wrote: eleaf wrote: Good. I'm not the only one. I can't stay on the site for more than a few minutes without my eyes going haywire. There's a reason we bleach the pulp that becomes paper, and not darken it.
It is simply easier to read dark on light. We figured that out over 2000 years ago.
And yes, the lack of aqua in the design, other than the logo at the top, is just plain wrong! You are more than welcome to jump in on the design team and give us your thoughts and your skills needed to carry out the overall design of the forum. If you want to help with the css / php /html of it all, give us a PM. I could help (as in I have experience with CSS), but I'm slow. I could likely come up with something good, but it would take FOOOOOOORRRRRRRRREEEEEEVVVVVEEEEERRRRRR. Well ideas are always welcome as well... you won't necessarily have to code it if you don't feel comfortable doing so.
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Big Dave
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Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:41 am Posts: 6241 Location: Raleigh, NC
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
I like the color but it is tougher to read on it. It may just take some getting used to it. I'll create a poll on the front page and see what others think. I like it that it matches the main site, but it isn't important. A white posting background won't kill me ... just Coots and PZ. /.
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| Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:20 pm |
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IamPZ
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Big Dave wrote: I like the color but it is tougher to read on it. It may just take some getting used to it. I'll create a poll on the front page and see what others think. I like it that it matches the main site, but it isn't important. A white posting background won't kill me ... just Coots and PZ. /. Yeah... just a little!!! Will kill you with the smiley's though 
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MissHell
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Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:50 pm Posts: 52 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
First thing I did after re-registering, was change my background to white with black text. White on dark is too hard on my eyes. 
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Coots
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
That's why we added that option Miss, people can have what they want. We will eventually get to styling those boards as well. Just don't expect it anytime soon.
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phinphan-n-buffalo
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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:36 pm Posts: 494 Location: Ruff Buff NY
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
 I like the black background makes this site look more diff than any others plus we dont need anymore birght colors the Dolphins have that covered lol
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Big Dave
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
phinphan-n-buffalo wrote: :grin: I like the black background makes this site look more diff than any others plus we dont need anymore birght colors the Dolphins have that covered lol True, dat. We do have another theme you can choose from if you don't like this one, but we make this one the default look. Just go into your User Control Panel at the top to change it to a white background.
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| Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:27 pm |
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hypocritex
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Big Dave wrote: phinphan-n-buffalo wrote: :grin: I like the black background makes this site look more diff than any others plus we dont need anymore birght colors the Dolphins have that covered lol True, dat. We do have another theme you can choose from if you don't like this one, but we make this one the default look. Just go into your User Control Panel at the top to change it to a white background. Where at the top. Lol. I cannot find it for the life of me =P
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Big Dave
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
hypocritex wrote: Where at the top. Lol. I cannot find it for the life of me =P
Try it again, Hypo. It is under "user preferences" in the User Control Panel. Someone had it overriding user preference, so, it wasn't available.
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| Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:42 pm |
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Big Dave
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Big Dave wrote: hypocritex wrote: Where at the top. Lol. I cannot find it for the life of me =P
Try it again, Hypo. It is under "user preferences" in the User Control Panel. Someone had it overriding user preference, so, it wasn't available. There is a problem that Coots is working on, so, you will not be able to change the template.
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| Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:03 pm |
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IamPZ
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Lol oops did I find another booboo ... I gotta stop doing that!!
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Coots
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No, the last time Coots worked on it... Coots had it fixed.... just sayin ;)
Now I've got to figure out what ol' timer did and re-fix it LOL
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Coots
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User Control Panel -> Board Preferences (on the left) -> My Board Style...
Select which you want and hit Submit. Ta-da
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phinsfanmel
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
I got the white background and didnt change it. I had asked where this feature was once before and then when I changed it to the white background, it changed it for everyone, and then you took the option down until you figured out how each user can change the board style on their own.
Just trying to help you remember!
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Coots
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Right now the boards are defaulted to the white, and will not change, and I don't know why. If you want the black background, simply follow the instructions above, and select the black background. (acidtech tiger)
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Big Dave
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 Re: This black background is killing my eyes.
Coots wrote: Right now the boards are defaulted to the white, and will not change, and I don't know why. If you want the black background, simply follow the instructions above, and select the black background. (acidtech tiger) I just registered a new test user and it does go to the white background. As soon as I log in with the new username it defaults to the dark bg. Just an FYI for you, Cooter.
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