shularino wrote:
He didn't get better last year......he got worse.
So let me get this straight, he doubled his yardage and receptions from 2011 but got worse.
Makes a lot of sense.
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In the second half of the season, he had 41 receptions for 361 yds and 0 TD's..........this was as our No.1 target.
Actually it was 33 receptions for 421 yards in the last 8 games. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from.
Yes, he slowed down the 2nd half of the season, probably because defenses started keying in on him. They started putting the other team's best corner on him all day long. But he still had 4 very good games the 2nd half of the season.
8 for 79 against Tenn.
5 for 84 against NE.
5 for 77 agains Jax.
5 for 69 against NE.
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"he is still very inconsistent from week to week and he struggles against good corners."
I agree with you fully and nothing should have occurred between then in now for you to reassess that.
I haven't changed my opinion of his play on the field. But I don't believe I've posted anywhere that we should pay him #1 receiver money. I've said I am OK all along with paying him #2 wide receiver money. The only thing I've reassessed is what the value of a good #2 wide receiver is. $6 million sounds fair to me given the market value set by an 800 yard receiver who just resigned with his own team. If he is making more than $10 million as a #1 receiver for putting up 800 yards and a couple of TDs, I have no problem paying our 1000 yard receiver $6 million to be a #2.
It's simple economics. The cap goes up, the value of players go up. You're not going to find a #2 receiver like Hartline for $4 million. The price is $6-7 million.
This is the only thing you're hung up is a couple of million dollars that aren't even coming out of your pocket book. Get over it.
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Ireland recognizes the team needs more play-makers in the receiving positions.
Really? I thought we just needed playmakers... whether at receiver, running back, tight end, cornerback, pass rusher etc. This is what Ireland means when he says playmakers, not solely at wide receiver.
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A guy that has 4 TDs in 4 years, is NOT a playmaker.
It's actually 6 TDs in four years. Again, not sure where you're getting your numbers from.
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If Wallace is signed, then why is it so hard for you to believe we pick up a better receiver in the draft.........moving Hartline to No. 4?
Because if we sign Wallace and resign Hartline, we're going to focus on addressing other needs early on. In case you missed it, this team has a plethora of needs from offensive line to tight end to cornerback to free safety to pass rusher. Did I mention offensive line? Because that isn't addressed with one player. Maybe 2 or 3. Ireland is not going to spend $6 million on Hartline and $12-13 million on Wallace to then draft a wide receiver high and move Hartline to #4. That's just plain stupid. If he viewed Hartline as a #4, they wouldn't be in aggressive negotiations right now.
If Ireland does take a receiver high, it will be to address the slot receiver position because Bess is in the last year of his deal. You can then expect Bess to be moved.
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Please don't give me we simply pickup a developmental receiver and let him mature, how many times has Ireland been burnt on that.
Bess and Hartline were developmental receivers. They've worked out just fine.