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Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24

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swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Not sure if this is allowed under Dolphin Talk but just seems like this is where everyone looks. Mods feel free to move it. Just a guide for everyone to look off of. my tentative offensive positional rankings as of 2/24/13 Quarterbacks Geno Smith 1st Ryan Nassib 2nd E.J. Manuel 2nd Matt Barkley 2nd Mike Glennon 2nd Tyler Wilson 3rd Sean Renfree 4th Landry Jones 4th Zac Dysert 5th Matt Scott 5th Tyler Bray 5th Collin Klein 6th Jordan Rodgers 7th Ryan Griffin 7th Brad Sorensen 7th Runningbacks Eddie Lacy 1st Giovanni Bernard 2nd Andre Ellington 2nd Knile Davis 2nd Jonathan Franklin 3rd Montee Ball 3rd Joseph Randle 3rd Marcus Lattimore 4th Mike Gillislee 4th Leveon Bell 4th Christine Michael 4th Kenjon Barner 5th Stepfan Taylor 5th Jawan Jamison 5th Onterio McCalebb 6th Kerwynn Williams 6th Cierre Wood 6th Ray Graham 6th Michael Ford 6th D.J. Harper 7th Zac Stacey 7th Theo Riddick 7th Tight Ends Tyler Eifert 1st Zach Ertz 2nd Vance McDonald 2nd Gavin Escobar 3rd Travis Kelce 3rd Jordan Reed 3rd Chris Gragg 4th Joseph Fauria 4th Levine Toilolo 5th Ryan Otten 5th Phil Lutzenkirchen 5th Dion Simms 6th Michael Williams 6th Nick Kasa 6th Mychal Rivera 6th Jack Doyle 7th D. J. Grant 7th Jake Stoneburner 7th Zach Sudfeld 7th Wide Receivers Cordarelle Patterson 1st Tavon Austin 1st Keenan Allen 1st Terence Williams 2nd Deandre Hopkins 2nd Markus Wheaton 2nd Justin Hunter 2nd Robert Woods 2nd Ryan Swope 3rd Da’Rick Rogers 3rd Quinton Patton 3rd Aaron Dobson 3rd Stedman Bailey 3rd Marquise Goodwin 3rd Chris Harper 3rd Kenny Stills 4th Cobi Hamilton 4th Ace Sanders 5th Tavarres King 5th Marcus Davis 5th Mark Harrison 5th Marquiss Wilson 6th Courtney Gardner 6th Aaron Mellette 6th Carter Vernon 7th Darius Johnson 7th Corey Fuller 7th Tyrone Goard 7th Denard Robinson 7th Guards/Centers Chance Warmack-G 1st Jonathan Cooper-G/C 1st Larry Warford-G 2nd Travis Frederick-G/C 2nd Barrett Jones C/G 3rd Brian Shwenke-C 3rd Brian Winters-G/T 4th David Quesenberry-G 4th Alvin Bailey-G/T 4th Cyril Richardson-G 4th Khaled Holmes-C 4th Dan Bakhtari-G/T-5th Hugh Thornton-G 5th Dalton Freeman-C 5th Eric Hermann-G 6th Jeff Baca-G 6th J.C. Tretter-G 6th Ommeregie Uzzi-G 6th Earl Watford-G 6th Braden Hansen- G 7th Garret Gilkey-G 7th Mario Benavides-C 7th Braxston cave-C 7th Blaize Foltz-G 7th Offensive Tackles Luke Joeckel-LT 1st Eric Fisher-LT 1st Lane Johnson-LT 1st D.J. Fluker-RT 1st Menelik Watson-OT 2nd Terron Armstead-T/G 2nd Dallas Thomas-T/G 2nd Kyle Long-T/G 3rd Justin Pugh-T/G 3rd Jordan Mills-OT 3rd Brennan Williams-OT 3rd Rickey Wagner-G/T 3rd Oday Aboushi-OT 4th Reid Fragel-OT 4th Chris Faulk-OT 5th Tanner Hawkinson-OT 6th Xavier Nixon-OT 6th Alex Hurst-OT 7th Manase Foketi-OT 7th Jon Wetzel-OT 7th Nick Becton-OT 7th Elvis Fisher-OT 7th Defensive rankings to come Last edited by swerve13 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:57 am, edited 5 times in total.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:35 pm

phinsfansc Phinfever Draft Guru/Radio Host Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:14 am Posts: 2636 Location: Columbia, SC	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Looks good swerve. _________________
Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:48 pm

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 I say tentative rankings because I'm already thinking of some changes. LOL I'm watching the runningbacks now and Knile Davis has alot of buzz among scouts lately and just ran a 4.3 flat. He could actually be the best back in this draft. He's a bull. On the flipside Ellington ran a disappointing 40.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:51 pm

Phins Rock Phinfever Global Moderator & FFL Commish Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28 pm Posts: 6745 Location: Massachusetts	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Escobar will be taking in the top 40 picks. I don't think there's anyway he gets into Round 3. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I've heard too many opinions from scouts saying he's a late first round player.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:55 pm

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Phins Rock wrote: Escobar will be taking in the top 40 picks. I don't think there's anyway he gets into Round 3. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I've heard too many opinions from scouts saying he's a late first round player. you know I love me some Escobar but I'm usually hearing high 3rd round.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:51 pm

Phins Rock Phinfever Global Moderator & FFL Commish Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28 pm Posts: 6745 Location: Massachusetts	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 swerve13 wrote: Phins Rock wrote: Escobar will be taking in the top 40 picks. I don't think there's anyway he gets into Round 3. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I've heard too many opinions from scouts saying he's a late first round player. you know I love me some Escobar but I'm usually hearing high 3rd round. From where? Walter football? Mel Kiper and online mocks are not where to find info on a guy's "stock". Evaluators have their opinions. We tend to catch on late, and then disguise it with "player x's stock is rising", or "he's falling down draft boards." In reality though, stocks don't change from December to April. Our knowledge of what those stocks are do.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:58 pm

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 He's only considered a sleeper to be a top 40 pick. Pump the brakes a little! ...... It's hard to crack the top 40. Ertz might not even get selected in the top 40 picks. And many have McDonald higher than Escobar. It would be a success for Escobar just to make it into round 2 (top 64) Quote: San Diego State's Gavin Escobar posted a disappointing 40 time of 4.84 seconds. Mayock -- who has Escobar ranked as his third-best tight end -- said the middling time will cause teams to take a closer look at Escobar's tape. But the biggest name out of this group continues to be Eifert. Said Mayock: "If you're talking about a potential first-round draft pick amongst Eifert, Ertz and Escobar, I think (Eifert) had the best day from a measurable perspective." Eifert has put himself in position to become a first-round pick.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:10 pm

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Phins Rock wrote: Escobar will be taking in the top 40 picks. I don't think there's anyway he gets into Round 3. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I've heard too many opinions from scouts saying he's a late first round player. too many opinions from scouts? where are these opinions? Walter Football? LOL I know Mayock is the one that called him a top 40 sleeper but just in the past 2 days Mayock has given 60 guys 2nd round grades. Only 30 guys this year can go in the 2nd round. (Browns and Saints don't have 2nd round picks this year)
Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:18 pm

Phins Rock Phinfever Global Moderator & FFL Commish Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28 pm Posts: 6745 Location: Massachusetts	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 swerve13 wrote: Phins Rock wrote: Escobar will be taking in the top 40 picks. I don't think there's anyway he gets into Round 3. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I've heard too many opinions from scouts saying he's a late first round player. too many opinions from scouts? where are these opinions? Walter Football? LOL I know Mayock is the one that called him a top 40 sleeper but just in the past 2 days Mayock has given 60 guys 2nd round grades. Only 30 guys this year can go in the 2nd round. (Browns and Saints don't have 2nd round picks this year) Walter Football has scouts opinions? Here's one article I read today... http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ ... 99541.html "He's probably gone by the time Green Bay picks," one scout said. "He's in that 20 to 35 range. He and (Tyler) Eifert are very similar in a lot of ways."
Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:16 pm

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 So some team is going to use a 1st round pick on a tight end that just ran a 4.82 forty? And who was being viewed as a 4th round prospect a couple weeks ago. I'll believe that when I see it. Especially since he's only the 3rd or 4th best tight end in the draft. Experts only have Eifert going in the 20 to 30 overall range and he;s the superior tight end in the draft. So how does Escobar fit in that range? I think only Eifert goes in the 1st round. Ertz in the first 10 picks of the 2nd round. McDonald and Escobar somewhere in the late 2nd or early 3rd round. Not a ton of teams need starting tight ends. The first round is going to fill up with defensive studs, offensive line and all these speedy receivers. FYI all of my info comes from Scouts twitter, not mock draft sites.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:06 am

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 just over a month ago Quote: 01/07/13 - San Diego State tight end Gavin Escobar will not return for his senior season. Aztecs coach Rocky Long confirmed Monday morning that Escobar will forgo his senior season to declare himself eligible for the 2013 NFL draft. The junior tight end and Mackey Award semi-finalist finished his final season in an Aztec uniform as SDSU’s leading receiver, with 42 receptions for 543 yards and six touchdowns. In the official NFL evaluation report that Escobar got last week, Long said Escobar was projected to go as high as the third round of the draft. - Stefanie Loh, The San Diego Union-Tribune doesnt get more definitive than that. The official NFL evaluation report.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:14 am

Phins Rock Phinfever Global Moderator & FFL Commish Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28 pm Posts: 6745 Location: Massachusetts	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 swerve13 wrote: just over a month ago Quote: 01/07/13 - San Diego State tight end Gavin Escobar will not return for his senior season. Aztecs coach Rocky Long confirmed Monday morning that Escobar will forgo his senior season to declare himself eligible for the 2013 NFL draft. The junior tight end and Mackey Award semi-finalist finished his final season in an Aztec uniform as SDSU’s leading receiver, with 42 receptions for 543 yards and six touchdowns. In the official NFL evaluation report that Escobar got last week, Long said Escobar was projected to go as high as the third round of the draft. - Stefanie Loh, The San Diego Union-Tribune doesnt get more definitive than that. The official NFL evaluation report. That report is BS, swerve. I remember Jordan Todman was told by the same report he'd go at the top of the 2nd round. He went in the 6th.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:50 am

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 OK......but your Packer report is dead on? if he's been labeled a 3rd round guy before the combine I would think that the terrible 40 time would only make his stock go down, not rise up 50 draft slots. That makes zero sense.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:56 am

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Quote: Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame: Eifert staked his claim to being the first tight end selected in April’s draft timing 4.65 seconds in the 40, touching 35.5 inches in the vertical jump as well as posting a broad jump of 9-11. He kept the momentum going during position drills displaying next-level receiving skills and may break into the top 20 picks based on his results. Quote: Vance McDonald, Rice: McDonald has been steadily rising up draft boards and once again impressed scouts. He looked athletic during position drills and showed the ability to effortlessly make the deep reception in stride. McDonald’s Combine workout will move him into the draft’s initial 45 selections. http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/ ... 7f16b2da5b
Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:02 am

Dphins4me Phinfever Legend Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:23 pm Posts: 2852	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 swerve13 wrote: I know Mayock is the one that called him a top 40 sleeper but just in the past 2 days Mayock has given 60 guys 2nd round grades. Only 30 guys this year can go in the 2nd round. (Browns and Saints don't have 2nd round picks this year) Doesn't mean they can't have a 2nd Rd grade.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:41 am

Phins Rock Phinfever Global Moderator & FFL Commish Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28 pm Posts: 6745 Location: Massachusetts	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 swerve13 wrote: :) OK......but your Packer report is dead on? if he's been labeled a 3rd round guy before the combine I would think that the terrible 40 time would only make his stock go down, not rise up 50 draft slots. That makes zero sense. It's people who actually draft opinion vs the opinion of a 3rd party advice firm... And my point is that Escobar was not seen as a 3rd round guy before the combine. Maybe to you and me, but clearly scouts have him labeled differently. Whether the 40 time hurts or not remains to be seen, but I doubt it will.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:26 am

swerve13 Phinfever 2013 Mock Champion Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 3215 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 Phins Rock wrote: swerve13 wrote: :) OK......but your Packer report is dead on? if he's been labeled a 3rd round guy before the combine I would think that the terrible 40 time would only make his stock go down, not rise up 50 draft slots. That makes zero sense. It's people who actually draft opinion vs the opinion of a 3rd party advice firm... And my point is that Escobar was not seen as a 3rd round guy before the combine. Maybe to you and me, but clearly scouts have him labeled differently. Whether the 40 time hurts or not remains to be seen, but I doubt it will. It's possible some scouts had him as a high 2nd round guy but doesnt mean they all did. Can't just assume that.
Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:12 am

Phins Rock Phinfever Global Moderator & FFL Commish Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28 pm Posts: 6745 Location: Massachusetts	Re: Swerve’s offensive positional rankings as of Feb. 24 swerve13 wrote: Phins Rock wrote: swerve13 wrote: :) OK......but your Packer report is dead on? if he's been labeled a 3rd round guy before the combine I would think that the terrible 40 time would only make his stock go down, not rise up 50 draft slots. That makes zero sense. It's people who actually draft opinion vs the opinion of a 3rd party advice firm... And my point is that Escobar was not seen as a 3rd round guy before the combine. Maybe to you and me, but clearly scouts have him labeled differently. Whether the 40 time hurts or not remains to be seen, but I doubt it will. It's possible some scouts had him as a high 2nd round guy but doesnt mean they all did. Can't just assume that. If a scout says that "he'll likely be gone before Green Bay" in the late 1st round, it's probably based off more than just his personal opinion of the player. They've probably had that discussion as a staff.
Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:48 am

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