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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:39 pm 
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The Patriots' defensive meltdown vs. Ben Roethlisberger was hardly an aberration. New England continues to rank last against the pass and has yielded an average of 34 yards per game more than any other team.


The issue here isn't that Bill Belichick has lost his touch as a defensive coach, because his work in mitigating the damage by winning battles in the red zones has made the problem a manageable one, when combined with Tom Brady and his explosive offense. Instead, the issue is that Belichick the Personnel Man is striking out, big-time, in trying to fix the corner and safety positions.


He's not so crafty when he's not utilizing tapes at halftime or filming other team's practices. This cheating scumbag deserves none of the credit he's gotten.

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But they beat the mile high messiah.

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Bellichick may be a great coach, but how many guys did he personally draft or sign to NE that were on the Super Bowl teams? Not a dig, but a serious question. I would think there were a lot of holdovers from the Parcells/Carroll regimes.


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Bellichick may be a great coach, but how many guys did he personally draft or sign to NE that were on the Super Bowl teams? Not a dig, but a serious question. I would think there were a lot of holdovers from the Parcells/Carroll regimes.


There were. Bruschi, Vrabel, McGinest Ty Law...All their core pieces on D were there before. He did draft Seymour and Samuel though.

Great coach, but proving to not be a great drafter.

I don't think I've ever seen a defense that lacks talent like this D does. I was watching the game with my Patriots fan brother, and probably asked him who at least 6 of their starters on D were. His answer to all of them, "we picked him up off the street a week or 2 ago"...

Their D was bad at the start of the year, and now they are decimated with injuries. It's beyond ugly. They don't stand a chance in January, IMO.


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Their defense is terrible & yet once again they dominate this division. I am beginning to think they have the benefit of playing in a weak division rather then then being so great. I mean no team in the division has done anything to stay even close to them. The Jets with all their aggressiveness still are mediocre.

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FINesse wrote:
Their defense is terrible & yet once again they dominate this division. I am beginning to think they have the benefit of playing in a weak division rather then then being so great. I mean no team in the division has done anything to stay even close to them. The Jets with all their aggressiveness still are mediocre.


Yep, New England isn't that good. Put them in the North against Pittsburgh and they don't have but maybe 2 division titles. With the South and Peyton twice a year. Getting 2 games against Buffalo a year for them is pie.

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Their defense is terrible & yet once again they dominate this division. I am beginning to think they have the benefit of playing in a weak division rather then then being so great. I mean no team in the division has done anything to stay even close to them. The Jets with all their aggressiveness still are mediocre.


Yep, New England isn't that good. Put them in the North against Pittsburgh and they don't have but maybe 2 division titles. With the South and Peyton twice a year. Getting 2 games against Buffalo a year for them is pie.
the South is/was a terrible division, However I don't know how we didn't move to the South when the realignment took place considering Indy almost borders Canada. As well as the fact that the NFL was willing to keep Oakland and San Diego in the same division so if that was their problem with us possibly being in the same division as Jacksonville, it would be hypocritical.

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Patriots are a playoff team no matter what division they are in and i think they are going to win the SB this year.


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Alex13 wrote:
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FINesse wrote:
Their defense is terrible & yet once again they dominate this division. I am beginning to think they have the benefit of playing in a weak division rather then then being so great. I mean no team in the division has done anything to stay even close to them. The Jets with all their aggressiveness still are mediocre.


Yep, New England isn't that good. Put them in the North against Pittsburgh and they don't have but maybe 2 division titles. With the South and Peyton twice a year. Getting 2 games against Buffalo a year for them is pie.
the South is/was a terrible division, However I don't know how we didn't move to the South when the realignment took place considering Indy almost borders Canada. As well as the fact that the NFL was willing to keep Oakland and San Diego in the same division so if that was their problem with us possibly being in the same division as Jacksonville, it would be hypocritical.


The south has been competitive virtually every season of its existence. Every team has one the division at least once...how many divisions can say that?
Even so, I believe the reason for having Miami in the East was because of the rivalries...of the 5 teams, Indianapolis didn't have the tradition of the other 4. Of course, today we look at the Indy/New England rival as tops.

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Iowafin wrote:
The south has been competitive virtually every season of its existence. Every team has one the division at least once...how many divisions can say that?
Even so, I believe the reason for having Miami in the East was because of the rivalries...of the 5 teams, Indianapolis didn't have the tradition of the other 4. Of course, today we look at the Indy/New England rival as tops.
The NFC West can say they've had all 4 teams win the division at least once too.

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Alex13 wrote:
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The south has been competitive virtually every season of its existence. Every team has one the division at least once...how many divisions can say that?
Even so, I believe the reason for having Miami in the East was because of the rivalries...of the 5 teams, Indianapolis didn't have the tradition of the other 4. Of course, today we look at the Indy/New England rival as tops.
The NFC West can say they've had all 4 teams win the division at least once too.


Well, I was wrong. Jacksonville never won the division. Maybe a better barometer of a division's success is the number of playoff contenders. How many divisions have had 3 of its teams in the playoffs in one season? The teams that won the AFC South had a (apart from last year) had an 11-5 or better record.
In 2007, the South had 3, and in that same year New England went undefeated with the rest of the division winning a total of 12 games. So the point isNew England does not fair as well being in the South.

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