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So, 3-0 was a mirage.

Fire Ireland right now.

6-10 if we are lucky.

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All we had to do was go into the bye 2-3, remember? Nothing is easy, you have to go into every game with the mindset that you are going to win. I guess we thought the Bills weren't going to play.


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It's not Ireland's fault that Philbin and Sherman are dumbasses.


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What really hurts is the fact that the Bills had all those injuries and come into Miami and steal one. Their running backs are cripples, they have a starting corner with one arm in a cast, they make stupid decisions like that final kick....and still, Miami finds a way to lose.

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1984phins wrote:
So, 3-0 was a mirage.

Fire Ireland right now.

6-10 if we are lucky.

That is all.

Ireland has nothing to do with the players being used wrong. The coaching staff seems to be falling in love with Thomas over Miller. Even though Miller is a homerun threat. They are running Thomas wide & Miller up the middle.


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Sherman has to go. Remember the Ravens last year when they changed the OC? Flacco flourished and they won the SB.


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It is Ireland's fault that after all those picks on the O-line, the team can't run or protect the QB. It is also Ireland's fault that they plump down a pile of cash for Wallace, who has made little to no contribution this year. The team should have drafted an offensive playmaker......not a part time pass rusher. The team should have kept Bush (although Philben, Sherman and the rest wouldn't know how to use him still). The money for Wallace could have brought in a tackle to protect Tannehill.

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This team won't do anything with Sherman as the OC. Have said it over and over again... this isn't the preseason... vanilla was supposed to go out the window when the regular season started.

Miami didn't get the memo.


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Tannehill did enough for us to lose in the 1st qtr, but rebounded with 3 straight TDs. The offensive line was the opposite, those fat slobs play their best game yet until the final THREE minutes of the game, and absolutely destroy any possibility of a comeback for Tannehill.

I bet he was blind on that Williams fumble, he had like five 300 pound men all up in his face, no way you can take reads downfield under that kind of duress. Mark my words. The offensive line WILL keep us out of the playoffs. What a shame, to think we wasted what decent offensive line we had with Chad Henne.

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Sherman has to go. Remember the Ravens last year when they changed the OC? Flacco flourished and they won the SB.


And for the same exact issues too.

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If you can't play any better against this banged up bills team, I dont know who you think you can beat. The jaguars looked better against the broncos last week.

I really like Philbin. I like his coaching philosophy, but Sherman's playcalling is not good. Did Philbin call plays when he was the OC with GB, or did the HC?

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FrustratedFinFan wrote:
It is Ireland's fault that after all those picks on the O-line, the team can't run or protect the QB. It is also Ireland's fault that they plump down a pile of cash for Wallace, who has made little to no contribution this year. The team should have drafted an offensive playmaker......not a part time pass rusher. The team should have kept Bush (although Philben, Sherman and the rest wouldn't know how to use him still). The money for Wallace could have brought in a tackle to protect Tannehill.

I agree on Wallace, but I still put most of the blame on the coaches not knowing how to use players.

Who should have Miami drafted?

Think how Dez Bryant would look in Aqua. Instead of two avg defenders. Sure am glad Phiben wanted rid of Marshall.


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Our offensive line makes us a sub .500 team for the 5th year in a row.

And it is not Ireland's fault? How many more seasons like this do we have to endure before we put blame at the very top?

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rodneyfaile wrote:

I really like Philbin. I like his coaching philosophy, but Sherman's playcalling is not good. Did Philbin call plays when he was the OC with GB, or did the HC?

Not Philben if memory serves me correct.


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1984phins wrote:
Our offensive line makes us a sub .500 team for the 5th year in a row.

And it is not Ireland's fault? How many more seasons like this do we have to endure before we put blame at the very top?

Wait a min. No playing fence jumpers. Most of you guys loved what he did this off season & now that the coaching staff is proving its incompetence it now Ireland's fault?


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Why even play Clabo? Just go out with 4 OL


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If you get rid of the ball quicker, the OL doesn't have to block as well. If no one is open, throw it away, or scramble and try to make something happen. Standing around like you have an all-pro OL is only going to get you sacked repeatedly.

Tannehill looks like a diffeent person this year. Im wondering if the coaches are telling him to settle down in the imaginary nonexistent pocket instead of running around.

Better adjust your gameplan to match your personnel Sherman. Tannehill needs to scramble, and Miller needs to be RB 90% of the time.

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Phins Rock wrote:
It's not Ireland's fault that Philbin and Sherman are dumbasses.


very true. If Philbin wants to save his career he needs to start calling the plays. And if he can't do that, he's a goner.


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Dphins4me wrote:
FrustratedFinFan wrote:
It is Ireland's fault that after all those picks on the O-line, the team can't run or protect the QB. It is also Ireland's fault that they plump down a pile of cash for Wallace, who has made little to no contribution this year. The team should have drafted an offensive playmaker......not a part time pass rusher. The team should have kept Bush (although Philben, Sherman and the rest wouldn't know how to use him still). The money for Wallace could have brought in a tackle to protect Tannehill.

I agree on Wallace, but I still put most of the blame on the coaches not knowing how to use players.

Who should have Miami drafted?

Think how Dez Bryant would look in Aqua. Instead of two avg defenders. Sure am glad Phiben wanted rid of Marshall.


I agree. I wanted Dez Bryant. However, this team kept drafting linemen on both sides of the ball....and after years and years of that crap, the team still can't block for crap. That is all on Ireland.

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Makchell wrote:
Sherman has to go. Remember the Ravens last year when they changed the OC? Flacco flourished and they won the SB.


Bingo!


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Why even play Clabo? Just go out with 4 OL


It is hard to believe Yeatman is any worse than Clabo. Give him a shot. Make a change for God's sake. Your offensive line is pathetic and Clabo is the weakest link.

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the team still can't block for crap. That is all on Ireland.
So coaching does not play a role in that? Pouncey is suppose to be a stud. Richie was a PB last year. You telling me they are playing at the same level?


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shouldnt he be in shotgun all of the time with this terrible line? Why line up under center at all?


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This is why I refused to get wild about the 3-0 start. We weren't winning games decisively and it was clear there were still major issues on this team even though we had pulled out some close games. This is a league where eventually the tape gets out as the season progresses and teams exploit those problems.

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Dphins4me wrote:
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the team still can't block for crap. That is all on Ireland.
So coaching does not play a role in that? Pouncey is suppose to be a stud. Richie was a PB last year. You telling me they are playing at the same level?


Do you really think any coach can make Clabo better???? He sucks big time. Why the hell is that the best player we have available at RT, after all the darn draft picks they have thrown at the offensive line. I do blame the coaching staff for continuing to play Clabo though. They are being stubborn. He is a large round peg and they keep trying to pound him into that square hole.

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This is why I refused to get wild about the 3-0 start. We weren't winning games decisively and it was clear there were still major issues on this team even though we had pulled out some close games. This is a league where eventually the tape gets out as the season progresses and teams exploit those problems.


I was definitely excited.
I saw the same issues, but since I was expecting the team to look rough, I wasn't bothered by them. I thought things would only get better and things would run more smoothly as the team progressed.

I wasn't bothered by the loss to the saints. The saints are SB contenders. I was distraught after the loss to the ravens, because that game was very winnable.

Now this loss to a banged up bills team???!!!!!
I have no words.

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Now this loss to a banged up bills team???!!!!!
I have no words.


A pick 6 and a pick in the redzone = a 10 point swing.


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Do you really think any coach can make Clabo better????
Yes.

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He sucks big time. Why the hell is that the best player we have available at RT, after all the darn draft picks they have thrown at the offensive line. I do blame the coaching staff for continuing to play Clabo though. They are being stubborn. He is a large round peg and they keep trying to pound him into that square hole.
Because they let the LT go because his price was to high.


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Dphins4me wrote:
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Do you really think any coach can make Clabo better????
Yes.

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He sucks big time. Why the hell is that the best player we have available at RT, after all the darn draft picks they have thrown at the offensive line. I do blame the coaching staff for continuing to play Clabo though. They are being stubborn. He is a large round peg and they keep trying to pound him into that square hole.
Because they let the LT go because his price was to high.


Yeah....and that is the GM's fault. I think it was time to let Long walk, but why use all your money to sign a wide receiver who excels on deep balls if you are not going to have an offensive line to give your QB more than 2 seconds to throw? Could have used that money to bring in a real offensive lineman. Could have even used a draft pick on one......they usually piss away two or more picks a year on O-line anyway, with little to show for it. They drafted a fine player in Dion Jordan, but he doesn't see the field enough. Ireland has had plenty of time to get it done. Time to move on.

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Yeah....and that is the GM's fault. I think it was time to let Long walk, but why use all your money to sign a wide receiver who excels on deep balls if you are not going to have an offensive line to give your QB more than 2 seconds to throw? Could have used that money to bring in a real offensive lineman. Could have even used a draft pick on one......they usually piss away two or more picks a year on O-line anyway, with little to show for it. They drafted a fine player in Dion Jordan, but he doesn't see the field enough. Ireland has had plenty of time to get it done. Time to move on.
Because your boss wanted to make a big signing.


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Now this loss to a banged up bills team???!!!!!
I have no words.


A pick 6 and a pick in the redzone = a 10 point swing.

What seals the deal for me is both were bad decisions on where to go with the ball


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Yeah....and that is the GM's fault. I think it was time to let Long walk, but why use all your money to sign a wide receiver who excels on deep balls if you are not going to have an offensive line to give your QB more than 2 seconds to throw? Could have used that money to bring in a real offensive lineman. Could have even used a draft pick on one......they usually piss away two or more picks a year on O-line anyway, with little to show for it. They drafted a fine player in Dion Jordan, but he doesn't see the field enough. Ireland has had plenty of time to get it done. Time to move on.
Because your boss wanted to make a big signing.


True that....but Wallace was not the right fit on this team. Gibson was a nice signing though. He played his butt off today.

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True that....but Wallace was not the right fit on this team. Gibson was a nice signing though. He played his butt off today.

Was never big on the Wallace signing, nor resigning Hartline at the cost. Was all over the Gibson one though.


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True that....but Wallace was not the right fit on this team. Gibson was a nice signing though. He played his butt off today.

Was never big on the Wallace signing, nor resigning Hartline at the cost. Was all over the Gibson one though.


Hartline was just about the only skill player on offense worth keeping. I think he was worth the money. Consistent and capable. Everything you need in a WR2. We still don't have a WR1 though.

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Yeah....and that is the GM's fault. I think it was time to let Long walk, but why use all your money to sign a wide receiver who excels on deep balls if you are not going to have an offensive line to give your QB more than 2 seconds to throw? Could have used that money to bring in a real offensive lineman. Could have even used a draft pick on one......they usually piss away two or more picks a year on O-line anyway, with little to show for it. They drafted a fine player in Dion Jordan, but he doesn't see the field enough. Ireland has had plenty of time to get it done. Time to move on.
Because your boss wanted to make a big signing.


Wanted a big signing b/c Ireland screwed up the offense for 4 years first.

Ireland has failed at every position at some point in his tenure except for defensive line.

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Wanted a big signing b/c Ireland screwed up the offense for 4 years first.

Ireland has failed at every position at some point in his tenure except for defensive line.

So has every GM.

BP was the man making to call from '08 to '10.


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this is a team with alot of talent but is coached poorly. There are a hand full of other teams like this in the NFL. Talent will only go as far as the coaching will.


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I agree this team was a mirage. .500 ball club right now.

Ireland, Philbin and Sherman didn't throw a pick 6, miss a FG, whiff on blocks, miss tackles, throw a ridiculous pick on a red zone opportunity, commit stupid penalties...etc.


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I agree this team was a mirage. .500 ball club right now.

Ireland, Philbin and Sherman didn't throw a pick 6, miss a FG, whiff on blocks, miss tackles, throw a ridiculous pick on a red zone opportunity, commit stupid penalties...etc.


No, but they did call a horrific gameplan and didn't have the team prepared. That falls on them.


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