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Francis also had an offer from the Patriots but turned it down.


Not sure if it’s been reported yet or not, but AJ Francis will sign with the Dolphins’ practice squad.


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Even thought Miami only kept 4 WRs on the 53 a practice squad that features Marvin McNutt and Brian Tyms would be pretty solid. We'll see.


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The Patriots picked Francis up on waivers. He's on their 53.


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Another intentional strategic move by Belicheck against the Dolphins. Does it surprise anyone that he did this with a player he knew Miami wanted back?


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Another intentional strategic move by Belicheck against the Dolphins. Does it surprise anyone that he did this with a player he knew Miami wanted back?

How would he know if Miami wanted him back? They cut him.


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Another intentional strategic move by Belicheck against the Dolphins. Does it surprise anyone that he did this with a player he knew Miami wanted back?



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Since they are at 51 players, they obviously have left themselves space to add and tinker with this list in the coming days (last year they made a dozen moves between cutdown day and the regular-season opener, not including practice-squad signings).


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The New England Patriots have claimed offensive lineman Chris Barker today, according to a Reno Gazette-Journal report, making him the second Miami Dolphins player claimed by their AFC East rivals. Barker joins defensive tackle A.J. Francis as new members of the Patriots.



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How much can a team benefit from learning about their opponent by acquiring one of their players?

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Personally, I think it's good news the Pats have to claim players we cut for their Final Roster.


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Personally, I think it's good news the Pats have to claim players we cut for their Final Roster.

Why?


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It could indicate areas of our strength and their weakness and might show that talent evaluation is improving.


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How would he know if Miami wanted him back? They cut him.

Come on Dphins4me......how many times has Belicheck specifically targeted Dolphin players getting cut and as far as how did he know, the same way I know, do your homework with all the feedback on Francis and how it was public knowledge that Miami intended to bring him back.

Social media sees to it that not only fans but coaches and scouts are well informed too. Miami has tremendous depth on their D-Line, the Pats needed someone. Pretty smart on Belicheck's part and especially if Francis amounts to anything.

The point is that Belicheck either pushes buttons on purpose or he has taken former Dolphin players and helped their careers more than the Dolphin coaches have and as many Pat decisions floundering on draft picks, they still seem to put the right pieces together and I hope Francis is not one of them...


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It could indicate areas of our strength and their weakness and might show that talent evaluation is improving.

When winning teams claim your players. Generally its because they know more than you.


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Dphins4me wrote:
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Another intentional strategic move by Belicheck against the Dolphins. Does it surprise anyone that he did this with a player he knew Miami wanted back?

How would he know if Miami wanted him back? They cut him.


The Dolphins were deep along the DL and really liked Francis, but he was the odd man out. They've done a really good job of developing defensive linemen. I expected to see him picked up as he was good enough to maker our roster, but I hate that the Patriots signed. What do they do? Pick one of cuts every year and turn them into a good player?

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It could indicate areas of our strength and their weakness and might show that talent evaluation is improving.


Thank you AQNOR. That sums it up.


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Am I the only one who is suprised that we only made 1 waiver claim (that we got) and it was for a fullback? I expected us to go after some of the OL or WR available


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AQNOR wrote:
It could indicate areas of our strength and their weakness and might show that talent evaluation is improving.

When winning teams claim your players. Generally its because they know more than you.


When I said talent evaluation I was thinking of the draft as well. It could mean the Phins are evaluating talent better and drafting better.

I don't agree that it generally means they know more than you but I am probably bias towards my own opinion.

There is also the idea of a guy fitting one system and not another but I would not suspect that of the players taken unless it was the Barker O-line guy as I really don't know much about him. I liked what I saw out of Francis but I don't think there is room on the Phins roster for him. I really believe that the d-line is an area of strength for the Phins and of weakness for the Patsies. If Barker turns into a zone blocking stud then it would certainly favor your interpretation.

Maybe we could both be partially right if that is the case?


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Am I the only one who is suprised that we only made 1 waiver claim (that we got) and it was for a fullback? I expected us to go after some of the OL or WR available


Yes I agree with you but the roster is probably not set. Phins could be working on a trade or something. Who knows maybe they have done other things and we have not heard about it yet, they were the last team to release the names of those who were cut.


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BB is obviously very scared of us. (& with good reason)

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BB is obviously very scared of us. (& with good reason)


The Dolphins have made the playoffs twice during the Belichick regime. No, he's not scared of us and he has no reason to be. Yes, we look like we're poised to make strides, but until we actually make good for once, no one is going to be scared of us.

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Chris Harper signed with the Seahawks PS.

Here is another Wr some of you guys liked in the 2012 draft; Tommy Streeter signed with the Bills.

Word is McNutt has signed with Miami. Which is a move I really do not get. He is not good enough for a team weak at the WR position & that only kept 4, but yet good enough to sign to the PS.


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Am I the only one who is suprised that we only made 1 waiver claim (that we got) and it was for a fullback? I expected us to go after some of the OL or WR available


ya, it's ridiculous. All the decent receivers waived were reclaimed to practice squads. Now Tiquan Underwood just got released. I hope we try for him.


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ya, it's ridiculous. All the decent receivers waived were reclaimed to practice squads. Now Tiquan Underwood just got released. I hope we try for him.

The guy been passed around more than a two dollar hooker.


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C Sam Brenner, SS Jordan Kovacs, DT Al Lapuaho, WR Marvin McNutt, TE Kyle Miller, DB De'Andre Presley, WR Brian Tyms, OT Jason Weaver

Understand resigning Tyms to the PS, but McNutt. If he is not good enough to make the rosters when they only kept 4 then I cannot hold out any hope for him now.

Plus signing Miller who could not make the roster so void of talent at the TE position. I really do not get this team. All some of these guys are just injury fill in. No future hope in them.


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Chris Harper signed with the Seahawks PS..

Apparently he signed with the Seahawks PS, then signed with the Niners active roster.


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Of course we don't see the players every day like the coaches do, but from an outside opinion. McNutt is a nice sized target and has done some good things, so I say as a 5th wide receiver why not just keep him on the 53 and see what he can do at the NFL level. Yet Miami keeps Devlin who won't do anything but take up a roster spot.


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Of course we don't see the players every day like the coaches do, but from an outside opinion. McNutt is a nice sized target and has done some good things, so I say as a 5th wide receiver why not just keep him on the 53 and see what he can do at the NFL level. Yet Miami keeps Devlin who won't do anything but take up a roster spot.

Miami now has 13 DBs on the roster & PS. Yet 4 active Wr & two that could not make the roster on the team. I know DBs are valuable but this is overkill.

I think it curious that Harper was not good enough for looks see by Miami, but is good enough for a look see by a Super contender.


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and the Colts Andrew Luck will be throwing touchdown bombs to Da'Rick Rogers before long too!


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and the Colts Andrew Luck will be throwing touchdown bombs to Da'Rick Rogers before long too!

I'd have to laugh if this happens. Especially if Indy is headed towards the playoffs with him, while Miami is struggling on offense, because it does not have the Wrs.


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Not a waiver-wire name, but with all this talk of us only having 4 WR's and needing to bring in one...correct me if I'm wrong, but Brandon Lloyd is still out there. Is he not worth a look?

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so they keep Brian Tyms over Chad Bumphis. :hithead:

What has Tyms ever showed?


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Not a waiver-wire name, but with all this talk of us only having 4 WR's and needing to bring in one...correct me if I'm wrong, but Brandon Lloyd is still out there. Is he not worth a look?


I think there's a reason why he's still unsigned after a 74 catch season for almost 1000 yards. According to ESPN Boston, “he wasn’t a good fit in the Patriots locker room.” He's bounced around several teams and no one wants him back ... especially the Patriots who could really use him back.

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All the decent receivers waived were reclaimed to practice squads

No one else wanted them because they are not decent, that's why these guys are cut in the 1st place.


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All the decent receivers waived were reclaimed to practice squads

No one else wanted them because they are not decent, that's why these guys are cut in the 1st place.
Wrong SF stepped in & signed Harper

Maybe they did not feel the need to shake up their roster at this point of the yr. Only teams like Miami think 4 Wr is enough.


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Wrong SF stepped in & signed Harper

Right, but he cleared waivers and then the 9ers decided to sign him off the practice squad. So, no other teams wanted him, the 9ers decided to take a chance on him and the Hawks let him walk. The revolving door will begin to spin for this kid.


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Wrong SF stepped in & signed Harper

Right, but he cleared waivers and then the 9ers decided to sign him off the practice squad. So, no other teams wanted him, the 9ers decided to take a chance on him and the Hawks let him walk. The revolving door will begin to spin for this kid.

The Hawks have no choice in the matter. Maybe it will, maybe not. If you write off every player cut as not being good enough, then you will never build a team.


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The Hawks have no choice in the matter. Maybe it will, maybe not. If you write off every player cut as not being good enough, then you will never build a team.

The Hawks do have a choice, they could have signed him to their active roster when the 9ers came sniffing around. They decided not to.


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Wrong SF stepped in & signed Harper

Right, but he cleared waivers and then the 9ers decided to sign him off the practice squad. So, no other teams wanted him, the 9ers decided to take a chance on him and the Hawks let him walk. The revolving door will begin to spin for this kid.

The Hawks have no choice in the matter. Maybe it will, maybe not. If you write off every player cut as not being good enough, then you will never build a team.


If you write off every cut player and no one ever signs them we'd be missing like 10 to 14 current Hall Of Famers.


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If you write off every cut player and no one ever signs them we'd be missing like 10 to 14 current Hall Of Famers

I agree, but too far few and between to be concerned.


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