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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:38 pm 
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Dang Swerve, you want to bring a lot of guys in man. It's a little too late for them to learn the playbook. Maybe you can find a diamond in the rough, but it's too much work. It's like spending 20% of you practice time on 4th downs when you will only go for .5% of the time.


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Makchell wrote:
Dang Swerve, you want to bring a lot of guys in man. It's a little too late for them to learn the playbook. Maybe you can find a diamond in the rough, but it's too much work. It's like spending 20% of you practice time on 4th downs when you will only go for .5% of the time.


Just some ideas, we could always improve parts of this roster.


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nope. Remember Mak I am very familiar with all of these young players from scouting the drafts.
I don't just see trash when i look at a waiver list.
This kid has a ton of ability. Similar characteristics to Keller.

You have to remember guys, quality players get waived every year. Teams aren't allowed to keep enough players.


Who would we cut for him? He got trucked throughout preseason and Sims has better preseason stats than him. I respect your knowledge on these, but I just don't see why they would get cut if they were good. I guess we will see...


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Just some ideas, we could always improve parts of this roster.



You're right about that.


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Makchell wrote:
nope. Remember Mak I am very familiar with all of these young players from scouting the drafts.
I don't just see trash when i look at a waiver list.
This kid has a ton of ability. Similar characteristics to Keller.

You have to remember guys, quality players get waived every year. Teams aren't allowed to keep enough players.


Who would we cut for him? He got trucked throughout preseason and Sims has better preseason stats than him. I respect your knowledge on these, but I just don't see why they would get cut if they were good. I guess we will see...


get rid of Clay, he's a turd.
I'm not interested in Williams blocking. Keller wasn't a blocking tight end either.


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Makchell wrote:
Dang Swerve, you want to bring a lot of guys in man. It's a little too late for them to learn the playbook. Maybe you can find a diamond in the rough, but it's too much work. It's like spending 20% of you practice time on 4th downs when you will only go for .5% of the time.


Pfffft ..... it's acorn season baby! Forget Christmas, this is Ireland's favorite time of year!

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Here is another name I like to see Miami look at. While I do not believe he is some type of great player. I believe he can be the big Wr a team needs to get the tough yds over the middle. Chris Harper was cut by Seattle.


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Harper has a bad case of the drops...


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Harper has a bad case of the drops...

So he is Miami material.

If it was an issue in college, then I would be concerned


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So he is Miami material.

lol...right?


If it was an issue in college, then I would be concerned

Two easy catches were dropped just the other night. Who knows...what he will become.


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Yeah, guys like Cam Wake and Dimitri Patterson were some of those "acorns" that some of you like to make fun of. I know you can't build a franchise around that, but it seems like Ireland has more success with that part of the process than he does his second round draft picks.


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No one is making fun of anything. Patterson is a journey man that has bounced around the league and Wake was a CFL stud.


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Makchell wrote:
No one is making fun of anything. Patterson is a journey man that has bounced around the league and Wake was a CFL stud.


I'm just saying that some posts make it seem like we shouldn't even bother looking, because nobody of value can be found at this point. Wake was cut from a camp just like a lot of guys were today, and Patterson was cut mid-season and is now our starting CB, who has looked pretty good this preseason for what it's worth. I realize the hyperbole involved, but I am not giving up on the idea that someone could be added at this point that could be a significant contributor.

As for "nobody's making fun"... when it comes to acorns, have you seen Rock's profile pic? :grin:


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I'm just saying that some posts make it seem like we shouldn't even bother looking, because nobody of value can be found at this point. Wake was cut from a camp just like a lot of guys were today, and Patterson was cut mid-season and is now our starting CB, who has looked pretty good this preseason for what it's worth. I realize the hyperbole involved, but I am not giving up on the idea that someone could be added at this point that could be a significant contributor.

As for "nobody's making fun"... when it comes to acorns, have you seen Rock's profile pic? :grin
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If they can contribute, they wouldn't be cut. Hundreds of players get cut every year we came up with Wake and Patterson, I just don't like the odds of finding one. I hope we do, there seems to be WRs out there with more upside than Bumphis and McNutt. Nothing wrong with looking.


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If they can contribute, they wouldn't be cut.


So, Wake, Patterson and Marcus Thigpen don't contribute? Weren't they all cut? The acorns are out there. We gotta keep the faith, because say what you want, Ireland has shown a talent for finding them amidst the other teams' castoffs.


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Dphins4me wrote:
Here is another name I like to see Miami look at. While I do not believe he is some type of great player. I believe he can be the big Wr a team needs to get the tough yds over the middle. Chris Harper was cut by Seattle.


Completely agree, He's huge and fast, Boldin-esque type player.


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Yeah, guys like Cam Wake and Dimitri Patterson were some of those "acorns" that some of you like to make fun of. I know you can't build a franchise around that, but it seems like Ireland has more success with that part of the process than he does his second round draft picks.


hey man! If we're not bringin in Larry Fitzgerald or Peyton Manning then you can just forget it!!!!
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No one is making fun of anything. Patterson is a journey man that has bounced around the league and Wake was a CFL stud.


I'm just saying that some posts make it seem like we shouldn't even bother looking, because nobody of value can be found at this point. Wake was cut from a camp just like a lot of guys were today, and Patterson was cut mid-season and is now our starting CB, who has looked pretty good this preseason for what it's worth. I realize the hyperbole involved, but I am not giving up on the idea that someone could be added at this point that could be a significant contributor.

As for "nobody's making fun"... when it comes to acorns, have you seen Rock's profile pic? :grin:


well said Mr. Dash.

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hey man! If we're not bringin in Larry Fitzgerald or Peyton Manning then you can just forget it!!!!
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Nobody is saying this. I'm just not excited about picking through the trash heap. I hope you guys are right ,bring them all in and see what happens.


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D.J. Williams claimed by Jags


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well if we can just replace our fullback in one move with somebody elses roster cut, why couldnt we just do the same with Charles Clay?


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Jaguars claimed TE D.J. Williams off waivers from the Packers.
Williams was one of the better players to hit the waiver wire on Saturday. He's a smallish pass-catching tight end at 6-foot-2, 245 who doesn't bring much to the table as a blocker. Williams has just nine career catches for 70 yards through 26 games. He should get plenty more opportunities in Jacksonville.


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well if we can just replace our fullback in one move with somebody elses roster cut, why couldnt we just do the same with Charles Clay?


He is the #1 TE on the depth chart..You think they are gonna cut him over the other 2?


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We should look really long and hard at the cuts from the 49ers and Seahawks. They were loaded with talent and might have had to try to sneak some through waivers.....

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well if we can just replace our fullback in one move with somebody elses roster cut, why couldnt we just do the same with Charles Clay?


He is the #1 TE on the depth chart..You think they are gonna cut him over the other 2?


does it really matter which one of our bum tight ends is listed as 1st team?


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Jaguars claimed TE D.J. Williams off waivers from the Packers.
Williams was one of the better players to hit the waiver wire on Saturday. He's a smallish pass-catching tight end at 6-foot-2, 245 who doesn't bring much to the table as a blocker. Williams has just nine career catches for 70 yards through 26 games. He should get plenty more opportunities in Jacksonville.


We have one of those guys in Egnew all ready, except Egnew has turned the corner as a blocker. Got to be able to block a little at the TE position.

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So the Jags have Marcedes Lewis, and claim both of the best TEs to hit the market, in Williams and the guy from the Eagles. Quite a collection they're putting together there. Can any of them block?


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So the Jags have Marcedes Lewis, and claim both of the best TEs to hit the market, in Williams and the guy from the Eagles. Quite a collection they're putting together there. Can any of them block?

Or better yet, do they have any QB's that can get them the ball?


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So the Jags have Marcedes Lewis, and claim both of the best TEs to hit the market, in Williams and the guy from the Eagles. Quite a collection they're putting together there. Can any of them block?

Or better yet, do they have any QB's that can get them the ball?


They have a check down specialist don't they?

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49ers signed WR Chris Harper off the Seahawks' practice squad.


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The 49ers reportedly envision converted WR Chris Harper "in the Delanie Walker mold."
Harper scored a 33 on the Wonderlic exam, and the 49ers believe he can handle multiple roles and a variety of positions. Harper and Walker aren't much different in terms of build, and the former has more straight-line speed. The Niners will attempt to develop Harper for a season before trying him on offense.


man! why can't we think outside the box like this?


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man! why can't we think outside the box like this?

He will be cut sooner than later...watch.


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He will be cut sooner than later...watch.

That is all we can do. However, again. To label every player cut as sucking, then you will never build a team. No one said he is a future HOF, just a player who can contribute.


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That is all we can do. However, again. To label every player cut as sucking, then you will never build a team. No one said he is a future HOF, just a player who can contribute.

I have always said, most players cut suck..lol. I agree with at least trying, but the vide around here is that the sky is falling because we didn't put a waiver claim in for specifc players. It looks like most NFL teams didn't either. I still think we make a move, no way do we go into the season with 4 WRs and a punt return man who is a RB play as the 5th.


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Makchell wrote:

I have always said, most players cut suck..lol. I agree with at least trying, but the vide around here is that the sky is falling because we didn't put a waiver claim in for specifc players. It looks like most NFL teams didn't either. I still think we make a move, no way do we go into the season with 4 WRs and a punt return man who is a RB play as the 5th.

Not every NFL team only kept 4 Wrs? Obviously there is a hole on the team at the position.

What move is there to make now?

They signed McNutt to be the No. 5 guy & if someone gets hurt he will be brought up. Which we already know he is not good enough to make THIS team.


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Could it be due to the offensive line this team is going to be running a lot of 2 TE sets, hence they don't need that 5th WR?


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Could it be due to the offensive line this team is going to be running a lot of 2 TE sets, hence they don't need that 5th WR?


You still need that 5th WR to cover yourself in case of injury.

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Could it be due to the offensive line this team is going to be running a lot of 2 TE sets, hence they don't need that 5th WR?


You still need that 5th WR to cover yourself in case of injury.


Where is that in the rule book? They have guys that can fill in..Some teams carry two qb's..Ive seen two qb's go down in a game plenty

The 5 th wr. is rarely used if he is not one of your returners/st'ers...We have Thigpen doing that job


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Could it be due to the offensive line this team is going to be running a lot of 2 TE sets, hence they don't need that 5th WR?


You still need that 5th WR to cover yourself in case of injury.


Where is that in the rule book? They have guys that can fill in..Some teams carry two qb's..Ive seen two qb's go down in a game plenty

The 5 th wr. is rarely used if he is not one of your returners/st'ers...We have Thigpen doing that job


Yes, and if Miami were only keeping two QB's, you'd see me saying the same thing about a third. Of course it's not a rule, no one said that. It is my opinion that you need to cover yourself in case of injury, and I don't think that having a special teamer/running back qualifies

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swerve13 wrote:
well if we can just replace our fullback in one move with somebody elses roster cut, why couldnt we just do the same with Charles Clay?


He is the #1 TE on the depth chart..You think they are gonna cut him over the other 2?


That was pretty much my thoughts as well.


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