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 Post subject: TB @ MIA recap by PFF
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:45 am 
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/08/26/refo-tb-mia-preseason-wk-3/

It looked like Martin was struggling to me so I was glad to see some experts put it into words & grades

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:50 am 
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I agree that Devlin did not look inspiring. His competition is Aaron Corp who we didn't even see though.

The possibility of Miami just keeping Tannehill and Moore seem pretty high.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:51 am 
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The Dolphins’ defense whiffed on 10 tackles.

Imagine how good the D will be once we stop missing!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:22 pm 
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In one of the most underrated moves of free agency the Dolphins signed arguably the most consistent right tackle of the past five seasons for a mere $3.5m. Tyson Clabo (+3.0) showed against Tampa Bay why he’s only graded outside the top ten right tackles once in the PFF era. Clabo didn’t allow a single pressure and had no downgrades for the game. Barring a precipitous decline in his play, Clabo will be a huge upgrade for the Dolphins this season.


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Had some really nice drives, the o-line looked much improved, surely did not miss Samuda out there lol.

Painful to see the same ol same ol tho, get to the RZ and stall out, settle for a FG. Fumbles, passes hitting guys hands and even dead in the numbers being dropped, just sloppy football.

Tampa's offense was horrible, Freeman was terrible, game should have been a blow out our way. Too many mistakes, that game was a reminder of what we have become. Loosing games we should win.

Now I know its just pre season and our vanilla base d and o, but it was the same for Tampa, so its comparable...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:45 pm 
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The Dolphins’ defense whiffed on 10 tackles.

Imagine how good the D will be once we stop missing!


You know the one inspiring part of the defense this preseason is how they fly to the ball. I haven't used the word ball hawking to describe this defense in a long time but maybe could start this season. Clemons whiffed on a tackle, but then came back to force a fumble. He's quietly having a good camp.


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Spending a mid-round pick on a fullback is akin to a first round pick at any other position. The expectations for that fullback would be high. So when the Chicago Bears drafted Evan Rodriguez (+2.1) in the fourth round in 2012, many believed he would be leading the way for Matt Forte for much of the foreseeable future. It didn’t end up working out that way after multiple off the field incidents led to Rodriguez’ release this offseason. The Dolphins’ signed him a day later and he’s been in competition with incumbent fullback Jorvorskie Lane ever since.

Against the Bucs Rodriguez demonstrated why he was drafted so highly. He caught two balls for 16 yards and had multiple positively graded blocks as a lead blocker. Rodriguez is an amazing athlete for a fullback. At the combine he ran a 4.58s 40 yard dash and had a 36″ vertical leap at 242 pounds. On both his catches he flashed that running back level athleticism. On his first catch with 8:23 left in the fourth quarter, Rodriguez came out of the backfield to the flats and had a good five yards of sepearation on the trailing linebacker and picked up a first down. He ran a similar flats route just a few plays later and made two defenders miss with a smooth cutback and picked up nine yards. It was just one game, but it will be interesting to see if Rodriguez has showed enough for a roster spot this sesaon.


I hope he makes the team. I like what I saw against the Bucs, both as a blocker and as a receiver out of the backfield. A few years ago, the tight end position was all but dead and they had become glorified offensive linemen. The fullback position is there now so why not go against the grain and revive the fullback position as not just a short yardage blocker, but as a viable pass catching option?

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"why not go against the grain and revive the fullback position as not just a short yardage blocker, but as a viable pass catching option?"

Good point Rich. The best teams in this league constantly innovate, and the ones that struggle play catch up. The most successful team we've had in this last decade was the one that started a league trend of using the Wildcat.


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VTDolphin wrote:
Good point Rich. The best teams in this league constantly innovate, and the ones that struggle play catch up. The most successful team we've had in this last decade was the one that started a league trend of using the Wildcat.


The Wildcat ended up being a 1 year fluke .... lightening in the bottle scenario. Yes, other teams attempted to emulate it, but nobody is running it full-time .... hell not even a quarter of their offensive snaps.

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Rock, I don't disagree with anything you said. The Wildcat was a short term answer, and didn't hold up. But that doesn't take away that the Dolphins went against the grain, and it worked, if only for a year.

A lot of innovating is finding the right players, and then utilizing them correctly. The 2 TE sets worked for New England because they had two playmakers at TE. If we roll out Egnew and Clay thinking we'll bust the seems open, it's going to get ugly.

If Rodriguez is someone that can add a twist to our offense, we should get him on the field; especially if it's in a way that opposing defenses aren't seeing week in and week out.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:53 pm 
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That is because the new "wildcat" is not the wildcat at all. It is a spread offense with a running QB or RB. The true wildcat which Miami started with was TE, C RG, RT LG RT ... offset. It was effective because defenses were taught to be disciplined and stay at home...in your zone. If a team ever learns how to effectively throw out of that offset formation...it'll succeed again.


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VTDolphin wrote:
Rock, I don't disagree with anything you said. The Wildcat was a short term answer, and didn't hold up. But that doesn't take away that the Dolphins went against the grain, and it worked, if only for a year.

A lot of innovating is finding the right players, and then utilizing them correctly. The 2 TE sets worked for New England because they had two playmakers at TE. If we roll out Egnew and Clay thinking we'll bust the seems open, it's going to get ugly.

If Rodriguez is someone that can add a twist to our offense, we should get him on the field; especially if it's in a way that opposing defenses aren't seeing week in and week out.


Realistically though, I don't put a lot of faith in them to suddenly do an about-face with a perennial unknown like Rodriguez. This staff didn't even know how to use Reggie Bush properly in the passing game and he was a legitimate threat.

At this stage because of the time spent installing the offense as is, either the TE group (which they've drafted for 3 years in a row, albeit later rounds) needs to step up or the WR group which they spent a lot of money on needs to. In fact, even though I fully expect Wallace to get bracketed all year long now without Keller out there ....... he's the one that has to own this challenge the most. He's paid to be that guy. If he can't produce, then we'll know he benefited from Big Ben extending plays with his feet, Heath Miller up the seam, and Antonio Brown.

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The Dolphins’ defense whiffed on 10 tackles.

Imagine how good the D will be once we stop missing!


Mak, the Dolphins did miss a lot of tackles!!! They were flying around and several were potential stops behind the line of scrimmage, so at least the penetration is there. I expect that will tighten up more.


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Rock Sexton wrote:
VTDolphin wrote:
Good point Rich. The best teams in this league constantly innovate, and the ones that struggle play catch up. The most successful team we've had in this last decade was the one that started a league trend of using the Wildcat.


The Wildcat ended up being a 1 year fluke .... lightening in the bottle scenario. Yes, other teams attempted to emulate it, but nobody is running it full-time .... hell not even a quarter of their offensive snaps.


Teams using the read option and pistol in the NFL wouldn't be doing so without the Wildcat.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:21 pm 
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PFF (based on 4 preseason games) has Thomas(20th overall +1.4) ranked 31 spaces ahead of Miller (51st overall -0.1). In the run category Miller is ranked higher (+1.6) to (-0.3)


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