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Post UCLA vs Baylor/Terrance Williams
UCLA takes on Baylor tonight in the Holiday Bowl tonight on ESPN. If you get a chance, take a look at one Terrance Williams of Baylor.

For the 2012 season, Williams has 95 catches for 1,764 yards and a 18.6 yards per catch, 12 TD's with a long of 80 yards. Career numbers are 200 catches for 3,266 yards and 27 career TD's.

He's 6'2, 205 lbs and a legitimate deep threat and one of my favorite wide receivers in this draft. I like him more than WR Keenan Allen of Cal, the top rated WR coming out right now according to the NFL draft gurus. To me, Williams is more explosive.

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Terrance Williams is a great prospect. I'd love it if we were able to get him. Another guy who's playing in this game that I like is Joseph Fauria, the tightend from UCLA. He's a beast too. I'd love to see us land both guys.


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Any relation to Christian? I like Williams also but my favorite WR in this draft (if he comes out) is DeAndre Hopkins from Clemson!


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Any relation to Christian? I like Williams also but my favorite WR in this draft (if he comes out) is DeAndre Hopkins from Clemson!


I like DeAndre also.

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phinsfansc wrote:
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Any relation to Christian? I like Williams also but my favorite WR in this draft (if he comes out) is DeAndre Hopkins from Clemson!


I like DeAndre also.


I like both of the Clemson receivers. Sammy Watkins is a very explosive receiver too, but he's probably not coming out for another year. He missed some games this year and his stock is down. If he stays in school another year he could be a 1st or 2nd round pick.


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Sammy Watkins is a true sophmore. He could not come out anyway. He was suspended for the 1st 2 games and never really seemed to get back into the season. He had an illness on top of that.

He is indeed a very explosive player though, and I expect him to have a bounce back year in 2013.

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Remember Jeff Ireland is a Baylor grad.

I'm always weary of taking these spread WRs, but I do like his combination of size and speed. Also looks smooth running intermediate routes.

I'm not Fauria's biggest fan. Doesn't look like an elite athlete for a guy who's supposed to be a pass catching specialist.


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Remember Jeff Ireland is a Baylor grad.

I'm always weary of taking these spread WRs, but I do like his combination of size and speed. Also looks smooth running intermediate routes.

I'm not Fauria's biggest fan. Doesn't look like an elite athlete for a guy who's supposed to be a pass catching specialist.


Yep, I remember that. He should be able to learn and know a lot about Terrance.

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Terence Williams has been my boy all along this year. That's the receiver I want if we don't sign Mike Wallace.


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As far as receivers go I like the Tennessee trio Hunter, Patterson and Rogers. (I know Rogers is no longer with Tennessee and he's a big risk/reward type)

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As far as receivers go I like the Tennessee trio Hunter, Patterson and Rogers. (I know Rogers is no longer with Tennessee and he's a big risk/reward type)


I like the Patterson kid more than the other 2, and even with Patterson, he is very raw as a receiver. That said, Patterson is a big, explosive big play wide receiver. Rodgers is a knucklehead and Hunter was very inconsistent this past year coming off the knee injury.

Another kid I really love is Tavon Austin, the WR from West Virginia. Explosive, versatile, a big play waiting to happen.

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Tennesee receivers always bomb in the NFL. I just dont trust them.

I'd rather Williams or Allen.

Aaron Dobson would be a nice mid round pick too.


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Post Re: UCLA vs Baylor/Terrance Williams
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Tennesee receivers always bomb in the NFL. I just dont trust them.

I'd rather Williams or Allen.

Aaron Dobson would be a nice mid round pick too.


I don't like the Tennessee guys either.

I'm not a Keenan Allen fan though. Especially for what we need at the position and what he'd cost.

I like Williams and I'm intrigued with Austin. Outside those 2, I'm not really crazy about any WR early on. I think it's a pretty weak class.

That said, I wouldn't mind moving back up into the early 2nd round for Williams after getting Wallace or Jennings in Free Agency. It'd give you a nice set of young WR's for Tannehill.


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after it's all said and done I think Williams will be the first receiver drafted and he'll go top 20


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after it's all said and done I think Williams will be the first receiver drafted and he'll go top 20



I agree swerve. With his size, speed and production in college, I think Williams definitely makes it into the 1st round. Especially if he blows up at the combines.

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Tennesee receivers always bomb in the NFL. I just dont trust them.
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Always? Kinda of a broad stroke of a comment. There have not been many Tenn Wr drafted much less drafted high in the last 10 yrs & if you go back past that you will find many solid NFL Wr & few bust.

Robert Meachem has been a disappointment but not a total bust in NO.
Denarius Moore was a 5th Rd pick but they expect stardom from him. He is the Wr Miami should have drafted instead of Gates.

This is perception not equaling reality.


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I will thrilled if we cam get Hopkins (Clemson WR) and Bailey (West Virginia WR) in this draft!


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Tennesee receivers always bomb in the NFL. I just dont trust them.
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Always? Kinda of a broad stroke of a comment. There have not been many Tenn Wr drafted much less drafted high in the last 10 yrs & if you go back past that you will find many solid NFL Wr & few bust.

Robert Meachem has been a disappointment but not a total bust in NO.
Denarius Moore was a 5th Rd pick but they expect stardom from him. He is the Wr Miami should have drafted instead of Gates.

This is perception not equaling reality.



sorry, it's reality. Where there's smoke there's fire. Few Busts you say???
Cory Fleming, Kelley Washington, Donte Stallworth, Robert Meachem, Peerless Price....
none of them live up to their hype. (only Carl Pickens was any good)
the Raiders are finding out Denarius Moore can't run routes

Not to mention all the countless busts at other positions that the Dolphins had from Tennessee, Eddie Moore and Jason Allen anyone? No More!!


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sorry, it's reality. Where there's smoke there's fire. Few Busts you say???
Cory Fleming, Kelley Washington, Donte Stallworth, Robert Meachem, Peerless Price....
none of them live up to their hype. (only Carl Pickens was any good)
the Raiders are finding out Denarius Moore can't run routes

Not to mention all the countless busts at other positions that the Dolphins had from Tennessee, Eddie Moore and Jason Allen anyone? No More!!
I did say last 10 yrs, not the entire history of the school, but alright. I'll play this game.

So in your mind Miami should only draft players from school who have never had a bust. Well I guess that leaves Miami drafting players from ( tell us what school has never had a bust? ) When you send as many players to the NFL as UT does, then you will have your share of bust. You cannot name a school that does not have a ton of bust on its list if you are going to go back over its history.

Oakland doesn't have a Qb & for a Wr that you said cannot run routes put up 50 catches for 736 Yds & 6 Tds. ( More than any Miami Wr combined ) You are also talking 3rd Rd picks in Fleming ( which I'm not sure why he was drafted that high, never liked him ) Washington another 3rd Rd pick. ( thought he would do better but lacked the work ethic ) Why did you leave out Mark Jones, he was a 7th Rder who did not make it & Price was not a bust. Drafted in Rd 2 performed well enough to be traded for a 1st Rd pick.

Oh you are expanding it to the whole school in order to help your point, since its so weak. Every school has bust & its ignorant for anyone with a brain to start selecting only the bust. You are leaving out Jerod Mayo, Jason Whitten ( Future HOF ), Anthony Miller ( Wr ) Kevin Burnett ( Current Phin ), Dustin Colquitt, Aubrayo Franklin, John Henderson, Albert Haynesworth, Chad Clifton, Alvin Harper (WR ), Willer Gault ( WR ) & there is more.

However, Miami has drafted a couple of players from Tenn in the last 10 yrs that did not pan out & now every player from Tenn is bad.

Eddie Moore a bust? Really? Heck even he said he expect to be drafted till Rd. 5. Not his fault Wanny could not scout. Allen was a disappointment, but still good enough to be in the NFL 8 yrs later.

So the perception does not equal reality because you do not know to what you are referring to.


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sorry, it's reality. Where there's smoke there's fire. Few Busts you say???
Cory Fleming, Kelley Washington, Donte Stallworth, Robert Meachem, Peerless Price....
none of them live up to their hype. (only Carl Pickens was any good)
the Raiders are finding out Denarius Moore can't run routes

Not to mention all the countless busts at other positions that the Dolphins had from Tennessee, Eddie Moore and Jason Allen anyone? No More!!
I did say last 10 yrs, not the entire history of the school, but alright. I'll play this game.

So in your mind Miami should only draft players from school who have never had a bust. Well I guess that leaves Miami drafting players from ( tell us what school has never had a bust? ) When you send as many players to the NFL as UT does, then you will have your share of bust. You cannot name a school that does not have a ton of bust on its list if you are going to go back over its history.

Oakland doesn't have a Qb & for a Wr that you said cannot run routes put up 50 catches for 736 Yds & 6 Tds. ( More than any Miami Wr combined ) You are also talking 3rd Rd picks in Fleming ( which I'm not sure why he was drafted that high, never liked him ) Washington another 3rd Rd pick. ( thought he would do better but lacked the work ethic ) Why did you leave out Mark Jones, he was a 7th Rder who did not make it & Price was not a bust. Drafted in Rd 2 performed well enough to be traded for a 1st Rd pick.

Oh you are expanding it to the whole school in order to help your point, since its so weak. Every school has bust & its ignorant for anyone with a brain to start selecting only the bust. You are leaving out Jerod Mayo, Jason Whitten ( Future HOF ), Anthony Miller ( Wr ) Kevin Burnett ( Current Phin ), Dustin Colquitt, Aubrayo Franklin, John Henderson, Albert Haynesworth, Chad Clifton, Alvin Harper (WR ), Willer Gault ( WR ) & there is more.

However, Miami has drafted a couple of players from Tenn in the last 10 yrs that did not pan out & now every player from Tenn is bad.

Eddie Moore a bust? Really? Heck even he said he expect to be drafted till Rd. 5. Not his fault Wanny could not scout. Allen was a disappointment, but still good enough to be in the NFL 8 yrs later.

So the perception does not equal reality because you do not know to what you are referring to.



i provide the proof and you provide the excuses.
Let me know when you find me a Pro Bowl level receiver from Tennessee other than Carl Pickens.
I'll be waiting.


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One more thing. 2013 Pro bowl roster. College with the most with 6?

Two schools. Miami & Univ of Tenn.


So once again. Reality is different than perception


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i provide the proof and you provide the excuses.
Let me know when you find me a Pro Bowl level receiver from Tennessee other than Carl Pickens.
I'll be waiting.

You provided nothing but a uninformed opinion.

Not having to wait long. Anthony Miller 5 time Pb. for the Chargers. Next question or do we now exclude him? So now you want to go back to the orginal part.

So you are the type person who would not have drafted Calvin Johnson because Dez Bryant did not meet the hype or drafted D. Thomas because only Calvin Johnson has ever done anything from Ga. Tech.

Or not drafted Luck because outside Elway you cannot name a Pb Qb from Stanford.

You are bringing 3rd Rd.picks like Fleming & Washington as not living up to their hype. Really 3rd picks not meeting the hype?


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It's everyone else..


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It's everyone else..

Post count whore. Be nice if one time you would add somthing of value to a thread


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Dphins4me wrote:
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So you are the type person who would not have drafted Calvin Johnson because Dez Bryant did not meet the hype or drafted D. Thomas because only Calvin Johnsin has ever done anything from Ga. Tech.

Or not drafted Luck because outside Elway you cannot name a Pb Qb from Stanford.



Youre the type of person that wouldnt draft a brother of someone good :)


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Dphins4me wrote:
Kev1321 wrote:
It's everyone else..

Post count whore. Be nice if one time you would add somthing of value to a thread


And you do!


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And you do!

More than your personal BS. Ag ain for someone who said I was not worth his time,you sure do spend a ton of it folllowing me arond the board.
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Take it to Pm if you have anything else you want to say, but I'm not worth your time.


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Dphins4me wrote:
Kev1321 wrote:
And you do!

More than your personal BS. Again for someone who said I was not worth his time,you sure do spend a ton of it folllowing me arond the board.



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Youre the type of person that wouldnt draft a brother of someone good

I had my concern on Pouncey because every time he was talked about, they talked about his brother. That gave me a concern that they were seeing his brother instead of him. Valid concern.

Plus thought there would be better players available at that point of the draft, there wasn't. Didn't think he was worth the 15th pick, since his brother was a late 1st & he was not suppose to be as good as his brother.. Proven wrong.

At least I put my opinion out there & not just sit around waiting to only point out when people that do are wrong.


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