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The biggest reason we are 1-3 and not 3-1 is not WR, QB, or a legit pass rusher. No it is CB! If we had one more piece at CB we would have won the last two games. Dare I say that if we had Vontae Davis we would have generated the necessary incompletion or two that we needed to win against both the jets and now the cards. Screw Ireland this guy has no eye for talent and has proven he does not know what he is doing.


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The biggest reason we are 1-3 and not 3-1 is not WR, QB, or a legit pass rusher. No it is CB! If we had one more piece at CB we would have won the last two games. Dare I say that if we had Vontae Davis we would have generated the necessary incompletion or two that we needed to win against both the jets and now the cards. Screw Ireland this guy has no eye for talent and has proven he does not know what he is doing.


Poor job by Sean Smith in zone coverage. Has help on the inside, yet bites on the inside move anyway and gets burned at the sideline. Terrible job by a guy who overall, had a pretty good game today.

Sherman watches the Cardinals bring the house two plays in a row in OT and STILL doesn't do what's necessary to keep the quarterback upright on third down...


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I have to question the offensive play calling on the last series. The Cardinals blitzed every down.....and showed it early. A screen or draw was needed. Instead, they put it all on Tannehill and he coughed it up on a dumb rookie INT. His best game by far, but another L nevertheless.....

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I have to question the offensive play calling on the last series. The Cardinals blitzed every down.....and showed it early. A screen or draw was needed. Instead, they put it all on Tannehill and he coughed it up on a dumb rookie INT. His best game by far, but another L nevertheless.....


Dumb, rookie INT??? Are we watching the same game??? He was hit as he threw!


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The biggest reason we are 1-3 and not 3-1 is not WR, QB, or a legit pass rusher.


It's field goal kicker.

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You have to eat the ball on a jail break like that....or throw it away.


....and yes, Carpenter stinks this year.

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The biggest reason we are 1-3 and not 3-1 is not WR, QB, or a legit pass rusher.


It's field goal kicker.



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You have to eat the ball on a jail break like that....or throw it away.


....and yes, Carpenter stinks this year.


Then we should have eaten it every play that series. The offensive coordinator needs to put an extra blocker in the formation to help the offensive line and the running back. You can't just sit back and let a defense dictate to you. If they're bringing a bunch, someone down the field should be open. Need more than a second and a half to throw.


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You have to eat the ball on a jail break like that....or throw it away.



Yeah, he needs to work on that, he has been decent at throwing the ball away, but there are still some kinks to work out. Most of it is to be expected, and he has clearly been making progress.

This is another week where he, and a few others did plenty to secure a victory, only to keep being put back into a position to lose. He hooked up with Hartline for a monster to put the game away after they blew the first lead, only to have it end up in OT again...

Defense needs to take the blame on this one... And Carpenter.

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We have had plenty of GM's, Coaches etc.... Hasnt fixed anything right.
Maybe let one settle in and establish some sort of identity as a team. He has been far from perfect, but not as bad as people think. Its almost like he does nothing right in their eyes.. Vontae gives up big plays too, most in the league to be exact...

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MNDolfan wrote:
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You have to eat the ball on a jail break like that....or throw it away.


....and yes, Carpenter stinks this year.


Then we should have eaten it every play that series. The offensive coordinator needs to put an extra blocker in the formation to help the offensive line and the running back. You can't just sit back and let a defense dictate to you. If they're bringing a bunch, someone down the field should be open. Need more than a second and a half to throw.



I agree...the play calling was bad. Too much reliance on your rookie QB and not enough respect for the obvious all out blitz every down of that series.

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Yes blame the FG kicker who missed a 51 yarder...love it. When we're 4-12...we can use one of those 2's we got for Vontae on a kicker.


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Yes blame the FG kicker who missed a 51 yarder...love it.


Other kickers have been making them.. including Feeley

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FrustratedFinFan wrote:
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You have to eat the ball on a jail break like that....or throw it away.


....and yes, Carpenter stinks this year.


Then we should have eaten it every play that series. The offensive coordinator needs to put an extra blocker in the formation to help the offensive line and the running back. You can't just sit back and let a defense dictate to you. If they're bringing a bunch, someone down the field should be open. Need more than a second and a half to throw.



I agree...the play calling was bad. Too much reliance on your rookie QB and not enough respect for the obvious all out blitz every down of that series.


They playing was pretty good but when they messed up they messed up big. We should have stayed in the max protection. Come to think of it, we never should have stopped running the football there at mid field. Even if we had to punt then we would have made them burn their timeouts and they would have been having to go 80 plus yards under 2 minutes.


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Yes blame the FG kicker who missed a 51 yarder...love it.


Other kickers have been making them.. including Feeley


Other teams don't use a missed FG as an excuse to blow a 13 point lead.


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FrustratedFinFan wrote:
....and yes, Carpenter stinks this year.

Yeap, those 51 Yds are gimmies.


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NFLJunkie wrote:
Yes blame the FG kicker who missed a 51 yarder...love it.


It must be nice living in that vacuum of yours. But he's missed 3 field goals the past two games that could have been the difference in the game.

There's a pattern there.

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Part of this lose has to go on Carp. Say what you want about a 51 yr Fg but the man has 1 job that he gets paid for doing and he is failing.


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Feely made his 47 yarder. No doubt about it. BTW, even Carpenters too makes from 30 yards looked ugly. Barely made it in both times.

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But he's missed 3 field goals the past two games that could have been the difference in the game.

There's a pattern there.

Yeap, score TDs & not depend on 50 Yd FGs to win games.


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Rich wrote:
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Yes blame the FG kicker who missed a 51 yarder...love it.


It must be nice living in that vacuum of yours. But he's missed 3 field goals the past two games that could have been the difference in the game.

There's a pattern there.


keep your comments directed toward the post. This thread has nothing to do with the Jets loss. Carp missed a 51 yarder with a 13 point lead. Shouldn't have been a big deal.


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It's field goal kicker.

Difference between 3-1 and 1-3 right now. Argue, debatre, talk whatever you want, this is the reason.


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Dphins4me wrote:
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But he's missed 3 field goals the past two games that could have been the difference in the game.

There's a pattern there.

Yeap, score TDs & not depend on 50 Yd FGs to win games.


Back to reality...

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This thread has nothing to do with the Jets loss.


Actually it has to do with the GM so you've gone off topic as well.

Let's all get banned.

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It's field goal kicker.

Difference between 3-1 and 1-3 right now. Argue, debatre, talk whatever you want, this is the reason.


this is hilarious. I'll hang the Jets loss on Carp but please....the entire team had a hand in this loss today.


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Rich wrote:

Back to reality...

DC needs to make some of those kicks, but to knock a kicker for not making 50 Yders is asinine.


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Listen..........we are not a SuperBowl team this year.......but C'mon.......I can't be the only one excited about what I just saw. We are steadily getting better every game. More and more Tanehill look's like the Real Deal. This is a young team......with a rookie QB and we can play against any team!

We'll see how the rest of the season plays out.......but at this point, there is no reason to call for major changes.


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Dphins4me wrote:
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Back to reality...

DC needs to make some of those kicks, but to knock a kicker for not making 50 Yders is asinine.


How about for not making a 47, 48 and 51 yarder?

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Dphins4me wrote:
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Back to reality...

DC needs to make some of those kicks, but to knock a kicker for not making 50 Yders is asinine.


Since when has a 50yr FG been that hard to kick. I will agree that there is blame to spread around but you need to make the kicks.


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The Pats won SBs depending on thier kicker. I would put it on Carp again.


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No doubt........Carpenter is in a Funk.........kinda of like my golf game. But what are the options? He's won some big games for us...........let's not lynch him quite yet.


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The biggest reason we are 1-3 and not 3-1 is not WR, QB, or a legit pass rusher. No it is CB! If we had one more piece at CB we would have won the last two games. Dare I say that if we had Vontae Davis we would have generated the necessary incompletion or two that we needed to win against both the jets and now the cards. Screw Ireland this guy has no eye for talent and has proven he does not know what he is doing.



It's going to be at least two years before anyone can competently judge this trade. Despite the fact, it makes us weaker this season, Carpenter is the difference between 1-3 and 3-1.


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Since when has a 50yr FG been that hard to kick. I will agree that there is blame to spread around but you need to make the kicks.

Since when? Really? They are not chip shots.

As I stated & I wish you guys would read before replying. I stated "He needs to make some of those kicks" & he will.

However, if Miami does not get stupid with the ball late in the game, its a non issue.


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It's going to be at least two years before anyone can competently judge this trade. Despite the fact, it makes us weaker this season, Carpenter is the difference between 1-3 and 3-1.

There is a whole lot more more than DC in the difference between 1-3 & 3-1.


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Carpenter is the difference between 1-3 and 3-1.


Irrefutable fact.

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There is a whole lot more more than DC in the difference 3-1.between 1-3 &

This is the NFl, it's on Carp and Tannehill's turnover. He looked great and I'm excited, but he threw two picks and fumbled...can't do that, you will lose games, pun intended.


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Irrefutable fact.

Pick 6 & turnovers have not played a huge role?


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Irrefutable fact.

Pick 6 & turnovers have not played a huge role?


Yes, but it is still an irrefutable fact that if Carpenter makes his kicks we're 3-1.

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Pick 6 & turnovers have not played a huge role?


I think it has. He's a rookie, but the fact is, he turns the ball over and we are losing. He looks good, don't get me wrong, but as long as his TD/INT ratio is even or there about, we will lose.


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Yes, but it is still an irrefutable fact that if Carpenter makes his kicks we're 3-1.

Its also irrefutable fact that if Miami does not turn the ball over they are also 3-1.


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Please don't blame this loss on Tanehill...........he played very well. Sometimes "chance" and the other team's play deserve consideration


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