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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:02 am 
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Allen is competing with Benny Sapp to be the third cornerback, but it hasn’t been much of a competition at all.

Allen, 33, has missed more than half of training camp, plus both preseason games, with a hamstring tweak. He also hasn’t played in almost two years after tearing his ACL in 2009 and undergoing a second surgery in August 2010.

If he has any shot of making the team, he must get on the field this weekend for the Bucs, hamstring tweak or no. Allen knows it, and Sparano knows it.


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I don't see him making the team. Sapp will be the nickel corner. Wilson will be the dime.

Maybe they can put him on the PUP list and give him a few more weeks, but other than that, I just don't see where he fits in.


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I don't see him making the team. Sapp will be the nickel corner. Wilson will be the dime.

Maybe they can put him on the PUP list and give him a few more weeks, but other than that, I just don't see where he fits in.


Yeah, I gotta agree here. I forsee Allen's days to end here soon. Not because he can't do it any longer, but at some point he has to get on the field.

They pretty much know what he can do, but what they don't know is where he's at with his health. Unfortunately for him, Wilson has shined so far in camp and gives them a choice to make. I like what Wilson brings, but let's face it, we certainly won't be a better team with Sapp as our #3 CB...that's the only thing that bothers me about this move, but it appears as tho it'll happen...He's been a pretty solid player for us but the injury bug has bitten him once again...


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I don't see him making the team. Sapp will be the nickel corner. Wilson will be the dime.

Maybe they can put him on the PUP list and give him a few more weeks, but other than that, I just don't see where he fits in.


Yeah, I gotta agree here. I forsee Allen's days to end here soon. Not because he can't do it any longer, but at some point he has to get on the field.

They pretty much know what he can do, but what they don't know is where he's at with his health. Unfortunately for him, Wilson has shined so far in camp and gives them a choice to make. I like what Wilson brings, but let's face it, we certainly won't be a better team with Sapp as our #3 CB...that's the only thing that bothers me about this move, but it appears as tho it'll happen...He's been a pretty solid player for us but the injury bug has bitten him once again...


I thought Sapp looked good vs. Carolina. I know it's just Carolina and pre-season, but for a nickel corner, that's a good sign. And the way Wilson is starting out, he will take over the nickel sooner rather than later.


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Sapp has been the best DB in preseason this year. He looked good against Atlanta as well.


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With Sapp, Carroll, and Wilson all on the roster I just don't see a spot for Allen. I think we'll cut him after this week and call up an undrafted rookie or a veteran free agent to compete. At this point in his career Allen just comes with too many red flags. We're better off moving on and letting younger guys like Carroll and Wilson get a shot.


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Sapp has been the best DB in preseason this year. He looked good against Atlanta as well.


Outside of Vontae and Sean, I would agree.

He's got the nickel job locked up. He looks motivated in a contract year.

That said, I'm not comfortable at all with him being the guy covering Welker man to man.


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I'm not sure I'm ok with Will doing that either.


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I'm not sure I'm ok with Will doing that either.


Welker definitely presents a mismatch, but with the addition of Burnett we've now got two linebackers that can cover and read quarterbacks well. I don't expect us to stop Welker completely but hopefully when he comes over the middle we make him pay. I'm hoping Dansby or Burnett will light him up a couple of times week one. Make him start to hear footsteps when he plays us.
Guys like Clemons and Bell will need to step up and start laying out receivers as well. I would like to see our entire defense start playing with a mean streak, setting the tempo and intimidating other teams. We've got the talent, we just need to exert ourselves. I think we could have the type of defense that scares teams.


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Patriots present the nightmare scenario. Who do you cover? Ocho, Welker, Branch, either of their TEs?


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Patriots present the nightmare scenario. Who do you cover? Ocho, Welker, Branch, either of their TEs?


We're slowly getting there too with Marshall, Bess, and Bush. Not to mention other guys like Hartline, Fasano, and Gates. I would argue that the duo of Marshall and Bess are just as good if not better than Ocho and Welker and that Bush is deadlier than any TE or RB they have. The only difference is they've got Brady throwing the football, but if Henne can turn it around that might not be the big advantage it has been in the past.


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