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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:32 am 
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If the Dolphins go quarterback-shopping, don't expect to find anything close to a long-term answer in free agency. A trade isn't likely either, unless Miami is willing to dangle a first-round pick for Philadelphia's Kevin Kolb (Miami doesn't have a second-rounder in 2011) or if Tennessee dumps Vince Young and the Dolphins take that risk.

Philadelphia's Michael Vick and Indianapolis' Peyton Manning aren't going anywhere, even if the franchise tag needs to be used.

Beyond those two, the unrestricted free agent list includes Seattle's Matt Hasselbeck (well past his prime), Chad Pennington (might retire after another major shoulder injury), Brett Favre (says he's retiring), Tyler Thigpen (Dolphins don't consider him a potential starter), Tennessee's Kerry Collins, San Francisco's Alex Smith and backups Seneca Wallace, Marc Bulger, Jim Sorgi, Billy Volek, Rex Grossman.

Depending on terms of the new labor deal, quarterbacks who will be either unrestricted or restricted include Minnesota's Tarvaris Jackson, Oakland's Bruce Gradkowski, the 49ers' Troy Smith, Houston's Matt Leinart, Detroit's Drew Stanton and the Chiefs' Brodie Croyle.

• With Stanford's Andrew Luck potentially the first overall pick, three quarterbacks could figure in the Dolphins' first-round range (likely to be in the teens): Auburn's Cam Newton and Arkansas' Ryan Mallett (should they turn pro) and Washington's Jake Locker. But Newton or Mallett could go earlier.

``I would be shocked if Newton didn't go in the top 10,'' Fox's Jimmy Johnson said. ``I would take him in a heartbeat.'' (Mel Kiper rates him 14th among all prospects.) . . . Sporting News draft analyst and ex-Browns scout Russ Lande said, ``In terms of size and arm strength and pulling free from sacks, the most intriguing comparison to Newton [6-6] is Ben Roethlisberger, though he's not anywhere near as polished.'' Fox's Terry Bradshaw said, "He stands with his feet together and uses his wrist for his motion. He can't do that and be accurate in the NFL. He's going to have to learn to use his legs."

Kiper has Mallett No. 9 among all prospects, on espn.com. The 6-7 Mallett (30 touchdown passes, 11 interceptions) ``has become far more than a big arm,'' Kiper said. ``Patience, poise and willingness to check down have enhanced his stock.''

Lande said ``teams will look at Mallett and envision Joe Flacco. But I believe he will have mistake problems in the NFL.''

Kiper ranks Locker 23rd among all prospects: ``The skill set is fantastic but poor year overall.'' Lande said when Locker ``is in the pocket, he's really inconsistent. His mechanics aren't the same; his ball is over the place.''

• Lande said if the Dolphins don't take a quarterback in the first round, three are potential options in the third round: FSU's Christian Ponder, Idaho's Nathan Enderle and Nevada's Colin Kaepernick. Some have Iowa's Ricky Stanzi in that third-round range. Missouri's Blaine Gabbert could be off the board by Round two if he turns pro, Lande said. But it's unrealistic to expect any of those five to come in and start immediately.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:16 am 
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Yikes, paints a rather grim picture.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:33 am 
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Re-iterates the fact that franchise Qbs are not easy to find. Obviously there aren't even 32 current franchise Qbs (far less depending on your standard). Reality is you keep looking for yours and if you happen to get a second one you are golden. We will continue to work with Henne at the helm even through next year. Even if we trade up for a higher pick and pick one of the supposed blue chippers, I highly doubt they start right away.


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Career backup Sorgi....behind Peyton Manning hs entire career, 1 year behind Eli. No chance of starting in either place but Sorgi played well when Manning missed a few games early on. Not that this guy is a savior but he's not been given a chance and would come cheap.

Leinart - Was big time at USC. He struggled with the poor OL in AZ and lost out to Warner last season but the potential is there and again, may not break the bank to bring him in.

Hasslebeck - Not washed up by any means. He could be signed cheap enough as a backup and then compete.

Kerry Collins would be a solid veteran to bring in again in the same thoughts with Hasslebeck.

Marc Bulger? - Before injuries took him out and a porous OL he played well enough.

Draft - Miami needs to draft one of these guys as a 3rd stringer and hope they hit gold.


Strategy - release Pennington. Sign a veteran backup. Draft a QB. Next fall, may the best man win.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:08 pm 
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Career backup Sorgi....behind Peyton Manning hs entire career, 1 year behind Eli. No chance of starting in either place but Sorgi played well when Manning missed a few games early on. Not that this guy is a savior but he's not been given a chance and would come cheap.

Leinart - Was big time at USC. He struggled with the poor OL in AZ and lost out to Warner last season but the potential is there and again, may not break the bank to bring him in.

Hasslebeck - Not washed up by any means. He could be signed cheap enough as a backup and then compete.

Kerry Collins would be a solid veteran to bring in again in the same thoughts with Hasslebeck.

Marc Bulger? - Before injuries took him out and a porous OL he played well enough.

Draft - Miami needs to draft one of these guys as a 3rd stringer and hope they hit gold.


Strategy - release Pennington. Sign a veteran backup. Draft a QB. Next fall, may the best man win.


You need to officially put a Jim Sorgi picture as your background.

The only guy from that crew might work is Bulger if he can pull a Pennington ala 2008. Here is the problem, 2008 saw the wildcat open up some serious opportunities for this team to look better than what they really were. Not sure any available QB is going to do more for this team with its current running game/o-line issues.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:03 pm 
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:) :) :) You need to officially put a Jim Sorgi picture as your background.


Junkie: Are you taking peyote again? :ann0y: Sorgi???


What figures is that both Carolina and Buffalo need franchise QB's.


Luck appears he could be that next superstar QB. Of course, no one can predict, but if he truly was going to be that franchise QB, then trading a couple of 1st round draft picks would be well worth it, but I dont see any realistic trades happening under these circumstances.


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Thurman Thomas never started a single game at Oklahoma....because he was behind Barry Sanders and a year older than Sanders.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:51 pm 
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BTW, before someone says I'm calling Sorgi the next Thurman Thomas, I'm not. I'm just saying Miami needs a veteran backup and Sorgi would fit that bill and would come cheap. No one really knows how he'd perform in a real game however if you look at the preseason games he has done well.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:43 pm 
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NFLJunkie wrote:
Thurman Thomas never started a single game at Oklahoma....because he was behind Barry Sanders and a year older than Sanders.
Not real sure how to reply here, since you are both correct & incorrect. Thomas never started a game at Oklahoma. That part is correct. Both went to Oklahoma State.

Maybe you just got things backwards, but Sanders never started until his junior year. The year after Thomas left.


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You will have to forgive Junkie as he had "Sorgi" on his mind. Sounds like an italian dish or something. I dont really want to think about a back up QB, I want to know who is going to lead this team for the next several years!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:04 pm 
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Dphins4me wrote:
NFLJunkie wrote:
Thurman Thomas never started a single game at Oklahoma....because he was behind Barry Sanders and a year older than Sanders.
Not real sure how to reply here, since you are both correct & incorrect. Thomas never started a game at Oklahoma. That part is correct. Both went to Oklahoma State.

Maybe you just got things backwards, but Sanders never started until his junior year. The year after Thomas left.


Right it was Thomas who kept Barry on the bench for 2 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sanders


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You will have to forgive Junkie as he had "Sorgi" on his mind. Sounds like an italian dish or something. I dont really want to think about a back up QB, I want to know who is going to lead this team for the next several years!

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You're right. The sad part is that guy is probably Henne due to lack of better options. I had a buddy who said it right the other day. He said "there just aren't enough good QB's to go around". This kind of makes you wonder why the braintrust passed on Matty Ice.


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