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Is this for real, or is this just a contract push for Soliai only to go back to mediocrity once he gets a good payday?

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Paul Soliai dominated the interior line of scrimmage for the Dolphins defense. He’s got to be the surprise of this season considering Randy Starks was moved inside in the off-season when Jason Ferguson retired Soliai wasn’t deemed capable. His four tackles Sunday only start to say how he controlled Sunday’s middle. He’s also at the end of his contract in four games. He’s become a must-sign for the Dolphins and his price seems to be going up each game.


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I still can't believe how much better this defense has been this year......And Soliai is a big part of it....

Nice to see a guy develope that was on the hot seat for a while.


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funny he developed...but Henne...nah.. throw him out !!!


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Soliai has been fun to watch. His impact is very noticeable during the games.


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Yes...Soliai has developed and seems worthy of being a starter in the NFL. Henne does not seem to be improving, he is inconsistent as ever....unless you are talking about stupid INT's....you get those from him each and every week. He has consistently thrown more INT's than TD's for his entire career. Our offense is horrible right now and he is the key to that. If it weren't for our kicker, this team might not ever break single digits in scoring.

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its soliai's 3rd season playing hennes second.....yeah but throw henne away.... :hithead: :hithead:


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What a coincidence that it should come in a contract year......Yup, a pure coincidence........


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funny he developed...but Henne...nah.. throw him out !!!


Hmmm... I hear ya, man


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Battle wrote:
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funny he developed...but Henne...nah.. throw him out !!!


Hmmm... I hear ya, man


Liiiiiiiitttttlllleeeee bit of a difference between a QB and a back-up NT. Lol.


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Liiiiiiiitttttlllleeeee bit of a difference between a QB and a back-up NT. Lol.


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Yes...Soliai has developed and seems worthy of being a starter in the NFL. Henne does not seem to be improving, he is inconsistent as ever....unless you are talking about stupid INT's....you get those from him each and every week. He has consistently thrown more INT's than TD's for his entire career. Our offense is horrible right now and he is the key to that. If it weren't for our kicker, this team might not ever break single digits in scoring.


Soliai took four years to develop... if he has even truly developed.

For years now, Dolphins fans have wanted him cut.

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Phins Rock wrote:
Battle wrote:
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funny he developed...but Henne...nah.. throw him out !!!


Hmmm... I hear ya, man


Liiiiiiiitttttlllleeeee bit of a difference between a QB and a back-up NT. Lol.


Yes. It should be easier and take less time to develop at NT, which only augment's the argument made by dolphan74 and Battle.

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How many starts/snaps does Soliai have? Just wondering..... 28? Ferguson was the starter for a big portion of Soliai's tenure with SIP.

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How many starts/snaps does Soliai have? Just wondering..... 28? Ferguson was the starter for a big portion of Soliai's tenure with SIP.


He was a rotational player, so even if he wasn't the starter, he was still getting playing time.

Soliai has played in 48 games throughout his career.

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Rich wrote:
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How many starts/snaps does Soliai have? Just wondering..... 28? Ferguson was the starter for a big portion of Soliai's tenure with SIP.


He was a rotational player, so even if he wasn't the starter, he was still getting playing time.

Soliai has played in 48 games throughout his career.


Again how many snaps? Rotational doesn't mean starter, which Henne has been for the last 2 years. Fergy has always manned the majority of the plays at NT. Keith Traylor and Vonnie Holliday were the starters before him. Plus he was a DT in his first year (as he was all thru college) not an NT. Dude didn't even get his first start until Nov. 8th, 2009. Hard to get experience and develop without getting on the field enough first.

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point is he developed this year...so much that we have moved starks back to DE...again the posters here would have cut him long ago....so as there is no Rivers or Manning that we can get as a FA, i dont see the rush to dump Hennne...


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Rock Sexton wrote:
Again how many snaps?


Do some research since you're so interested in the number.

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Rotational doesn't mean starter, which Henne has been for the last 2 years.


Henne has 23 starts. 32 would be 2 years. He's more than half a season away from 2 years worth of starts.

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Plus he was a DT in his first year (as he was all thru college) not an NT.


No, he was Traylor's backup at NT.

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Dude didn't even get his first start until Nov. 8th, 2009. Hard to get experience and develop without getting on the field enough first.


You haven't proven that he didn't get on the field enough. I remember him being a part of the rotation since his rookie season since he always backed up old players who needed breathers.

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again the posters here would have cut him long ago


Yep, many of the people praising Soliai wanted him gone before this season.

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Rich wrote:
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Yes...Soliai has developed and seems worthy of being a starter in the NFL. Henne does not seem to be improving, he is inconsistent as ever....unless you are talking about stupid INT's....you get those from him each and every week. He has consistently thrown more INT's than TD's for his entire career. Our offense is horrible right now and he is the key to that. If it weren't for our kicker, this team might not ever break single digits in scoring.


Soliai took four years to develop... if he has even truly developed.

For years now, Dolphins fans have wanted him cut.


I haven't heard anyone call for cutting him. I have heard people critique his play...but it was deserved. I think he's better and the play he made on the sideline last week surprised me. Normally he is easily cut block but he made a tackle for no gain on the sideline against Hillis. He's probably done that before but it was the first time I've noticed it and certainly not something he commonly does. Teams have also found it tough sledding up the middle. A testament of a good NT.


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ummm go back and read.... tons of people wanted us to take Cody in the draft cause "soliai was a bust" funny how the tune has changed!!!


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ummm go back and read.... tons of people wanted us to take Cody in the draft cause "soliai was a bust" funny how the tune has changed!!!


Then take it up with them individually.

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ummm go back and read.... tons of people wanted us to take Cody in the draft cause "soliai was a bust" funny how the tune has changed!!!


I don't understand what your point is...

We knew what the problem with Soliai was. Laziness. He's in a contract year. Not sure why everybody is so surprised.

I can't say I was expecting it. But I'm not shocked.

Henne's problem is not laziness. It's talent.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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ummm go back and read.... tons of people wanted us to take Cody in the draft cause "soliai was a bust" funny how the tune has changed!!!


I don't understand what your point is...

We knew what the problem with Soliai was. Laziness. He's in a contract year. Not sure why everybody is so surprised.

I can't say I was expecting it. But I'm not shocked.

Henne's problem is not laziness. It's talent.



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Phins Rock wrote:
Henne's problem is not laziness. It's talent.


He has plenty of talent. Its execution and reading defenses, both correctable issues.


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Henne's problem is not laziness. It's talent.


He has plenty of talent. Its execution and reading defenses, both correctable issues.


That's what I meant. I'd label that as talent...mental, and maybe an acquired skill, but still talent in its own right.

Either way, Soliai's problem was not that he couldn't play, it's that he didn't put in the work. That's all my point was.

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That's what I meant. I'd label that as talent...mental, and maybe an acquired skill, but still talent in its own right.

Either way, Soliai's problem was not that he couldn't play, it's that he didn't put in the work. That's all my point was.

BTW, Crawford and Gonzalez baby!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!


Your last line saved you on this one as I must admit its been an awesome week to be a Sox fan.

I think Henne has plenty of "mental" talent. Everyone - coaches, teammates, reporters - have stated Henne is great at his preparation and ability to learn. What is killing him now is he is pressing and has a bit of Brett Favre in him. He still thinks at times that his arm alone will get the job done and bail him out. When it doesn't the results are disastrous. Reading defenses comes with time...even the greats weren't sharp at it right away.

Again, Henne is at times trying to take over when he is not ready. The same goes for Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez...they've all had bad games where they have pressed. The difference is that they have better teams to bail them out and have tried to do less frequently this year. Henne doesn't have that luxury and he needs to start realizing it and protecting the ball better.


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ummm go back and read.... tons of people wanted us to take Cody in the draft cause "soliai was a bust" funny how the tune has changed!!!


I don't understand what your point is...

We knew what the problem with Soliai was. Laziness. He's in a contract year. Not sure why everybody is so surprised.

I can't say I was expecting it. But I'm not shocked.

Henne's problem is not laziness. It's talent.


Henne's problem isn't talent. He has all the physical tools to be an elite QB. Henne's problem is that mentally he hasn't figured out the game. That comes with hard work and dedication and TIME.

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That's what I meant. I'd label that as talent...mental, and maybe an acquired skill, but still talent in its own right.


How about using the word talent appropriately instead of deciding what you should label something as without knowing that it doesn't apply?

talent - a special natural ability or aptitude

The physical tools of players are the talent, not their ability to mentally improve at the game, unless you have a guy with a high learning aptitude who can pick anything up quickly.

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He's turning into a monster in the middle. Someone will pay him after this season. Will it be us? I'm not sure how well Cody is doing, but drafting him wouldn't have been a bad decision as you cannot keep every free agent.

I love this picture of Soliai from last week's game.

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He's turning into a monster in the middle. Someone will pay him after this season. Will it be us? I'm not sure how well Cody is doing, but drafting him wouldn't have been a bad decision as you cannot keep every free agent.

I love this picture of Soliai from last week's game.

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Awesome pic!

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Big Dave wrote:
He's turning into a monster in the middle. Someone will pay him after this season. Will it be us? I'm not sure how well Cody is doing, but drafting him wouldn't have been a bad decision as you cannot keep every free agent.

I love this picture of Soliai from last week's game.
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That picture is bad azzzzzzzz ......

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Soliai has turned into quite the NT. He won't get you many sacks. But, he has been playing the run well and collapsing the pocket. I saw him make a couple tackles along the sideline. Fun to see a NT who can play sideline to sideline on occasion. I hope he can keep it up. He's a big reason our D is ranked #4 in the league. Cameron Wake might have something to do with that too ;)

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