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We need to draft Mark Ingram.


he would be my 2nd choice after Luck
I also think Mallett could be really good


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We need to draft Mark Ingram.


he would be my 2nd choice after Luck
I also think Mallett could be really good


Don't mean to pick on you, but if we draft Mallett I might literally jump off a bridge.

Very inaccurate, terrible decision maker, dumb as a pile of rocks.....

The only thing the guy has going for him is that he's 6'7 and can throw it the length of a football field.....

Maybe if we had Ted Ginn on the team, but he's so unfortunately gone now.... :ann0y:


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Swerve13, I know you're high on Luck and some of these other guys coming out this year but you've got to understand that drafting a quarterback is far from a guarantee. Quarterback is the most difficult position to draft and whether you're drafting one in the first round or the fifth round the odds of the guy becoming great are still less than 50%. There is no way we will get the top quarterback in the draft. We would have to sacrifice our entire draft just to move up and get him, then we would have to pay him a ridiculous amount of money. The risk is too high if you ask me.
As far as you mentioning our offensive line as being better than those other teams, I would have to disagree with you. Those offensive lines have been together for quite some time and even more importantly they're healthy. Our offensive line has been together for less than one season, not to mention that half the guys out there playing are either rookies or backups. Our two best lineman are playing through injuries and it's not looking like our line will turn the corner any time soon. If we don't fix the offensive line it won't matter who our quarterback is. Henne, Thigpen, a rookie, it won't matter unless the line is solid and healthy.


Nothing in life is guaranteed. But all the best teams in history have taken a chance on a player.
Hell, Roethlisberger was a big gamble. He played at tiny Miami, OH
It doesnt get much better than the package Andrew Luck brings.
But why the need to draft more linemen?? you said yourself, they are young and still gelling together. I still want a young center to groom, but thats about it. We've spent a fortune on the offensive line. So what's wrong with spending it on the most important position?


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swerve13 wrote:
oldgreg07 wrote:
We need to draft Mark Ingram.


he would be my 2nd choice after Luck
I also think Mallett could be really good


Don't mean to pick on you, but if we draft Mallett I might literally jump off a bridge.

Very inaccurate, terrible decision maker, dumb as a pile of rocks.....

The only thing the guy has going for him is that he's 6'7 and can throw it the length of a football field.....

Maybe if we had Ted Ginn on the team, but he's so unfortunately gone now.... :ann0y:


he puts points on the board my friend. More than I can say for Henne


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he puts points on the board my friend. More than I can say for Henne


Comparing college QBing to NFL QBing is quite silly.

Plenty of QBs in college put points up on the board and didn't even sniff an NFL roster.

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The grass will always be greener elsewhere for many Miami fans.


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There are several, starting with sending Dan Henning packing and including the kneejerk portion of the fanbase with him.


haha! Henning is awful. I swear he's really working for the Jets and not us


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he puts points on the board my friend. More than I can say for Henne


Comparing college QBing to NFL QBing is quite silly.

Plenty of QBs in college put points up on the board and didn't even sniff an NFL roster.


but plenty have also gone on to great pro careers.
Mallett is doing a good job against the top teams in the country.
Like I said, every prospect is a risk.


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1 hour til gametime. No Marshall today.
not sure I like our chances against Gradkowski.
anyway, Go Fins! talk to you guys later


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1 hour til gametime. No Marshall today.
not sure I like our chances against Gradkowski.
anyway, Go Fins! talk to you guys later


Game is at 4.


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he puts points on the board my friend. More than I can say for Henne


Mallet has a few more TDs and some more yards but if you want to do an apples to apples college comparison at the college level then you could easily say Henne put points on the board.

I remember another tall, stiff, rocket armed QB the Raiders grabbed named Andrew Walter who put up some great stats at Arizona State. Didn't work out as planned.


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but plenty have also gone on to great pro careers.


Plenty?

So there are plenty of great QBs? Might want to tell the majority of NFL teams that....

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Post Re: There's only 1 thing this team can do to become elite
oldgreg07 wrote:
We need to draft Mark Ingram.

Prefer Ryan Williams if he comes out.


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Post Re: There's only 1 thing this team can do to become elite
this is the "Real" official Andrew Luck thread that I started 10 days ago, and everybody thought it was a terrible idea. Stick with Henne was the popular thought. What a difference 1o days makes.
Phins Rock said Luck wasn't a franchise QB. Now he's startin his own thread wanting him.

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Andrew Luck isn't an NFL QB, IMO. But even if he was, how can we give up on Henne so soon?

Give Henne some weapons, and you'll see results. He's not Tom Brady, but I do think that he can be a Matt Schaub or Eli Manning type of a passer.


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Like I said in the other thread, finally got to watch him play, and now know what people are talking about.


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haha! it's all good man. Just had to call you out.


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but plenty have also gone on to great pro careers.


Plenty?

So there are plenty of great QBs? Might want to tell the majority of NFL teams that....



Rich is right. How many QBs in the NFL would you call great? 10? 15?

There's 120 FBS teams. Take a look at offensive stats for those teams. Plenty of QBs put up high numbers, Andrew Luck included. Do we really need a math lesson here? How can you say that "plenty" of them go off to have great NFL careers?

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the horse is DEAD swerve, let it GO. :hithead:


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swerve13 wrote:
but plenty have also gone on to great pro careers.


Plenty?

So there are plenty of great QBs? Might want to tell the majority of NFL teams that....



Rich is right. How many QBs in the NFL would you call great? 10? 15?

There's 120 FBS teams. Take a look at offensive stats for those teams. Plenty of QBs put up high numbers, Andrew Luck included. Do we really need a math lesson here? How can you say that "plenty" of them go off to have great NFL careers?



it was a general statement guy....about how plenty of guys with good college numbers go on to great pro careers. Nothing wrong with that statement.
There have been plenty of great QB's in the history of the NFL ya know?
Calm down. You're getting excited over nothing.


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the horse is DEAD swerve, let it GO. :hithead:


back from your porn sites to join us again? LOL


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