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Is that all a third and a backup player?

His skills have dropped off the past couple of years. Allen picked him apart this past year.


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Just wished he was as good as his mouth

Here we go again, and y’all hate on me for saying it, don’t care.
Another typical Grier move.
Burn the Byron Jones situation, move onto the next “once was” superstar…. Who is in the decline of his carreer, or at least appears to be.

Whatever, go Fins.

Say what you want but you can't convince me that Fangio doesn't have the say over the defensive players. I believe that this would have had to gone through him.

Huh?

. How was he burned by Jones?

He's 28 and had a better season according to PFF (FWIW) than he did in 2021.

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/0 ... k-ranking/

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I genuinely don't understand the takes that I am reading that he's washed, or declining, etc. Stats don't back that up. He's 28, not 32. It's shocking to me that we got him for a 3rd and Hunter Long. Maybe now we can trade next year's 5th and Noah Igbinoghene for Dalvin Cook.

I seriously hope that they can shore up this O-Line. That's going to be the boon or bane of this team.

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I wonder if they'd get Mike McGlinchey from the 49ers. Would probably be a bit too much money to spend, but would be a good fit I'd think

yep….I think this is truly what is holding the team back, especially with a QB that seems fragile. Well, that and having a featured versatile RB.

Jalen Ramsey is still a good player, but a 3rd and a player seems kind of steep. At least it was Hunter Long. He has been a non factor so far anyway.

Stop it…

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Yep. Fangio move almost certainly. In Fangio we trust!

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The buffoonery continues...

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It’s cool to have two CBs (on paper) who are both the same age, 28, and at the top of the game of play making ability. The offense seems to be set up the same at the receiver position. This needs to be a big year for Miami.

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I really don't get the negativity either. He was rated the 3rd best DB in coverage last year and plays excellent against both the pass and the run.






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New deal coming:

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Great move and gives the younger CBs some more time to develop and takeover in a couple of years.

Ramsey is a far better option than what was in free agency. I also don't think Miami could afford another whiff in the draft ala Igbinoghene. Time to retrain him to be a depth safety.

Or cut bait. He's a player that lacks instinct. Probably not worth it to move him to safety.

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I like the move. We basically got him for free. His pff is still good and with this defense we’ll need him.


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I would give him the preseason to see if a miracle can happen.

We loved that interception he made at the end of the Steelers game to help us hold onto the win, but the ball was poorly thrown away from the receiver and directly at him.

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This was highway robbery... Every corner is gonna lose a battle here and there. Jalen Ramsey is still VERY good, and we stole him thanks to him having say over a trade.

No corner we could have drafted in the 3rd will likely ever bring what this guy can bring to this team that's ready to win NOW.

I'm ultra encouraged at this off season so far

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Okay, I'll admit my skepticism is ove rthe top. And I've admitted my disdain for Grier being a great GM is something I point out regularly. But if anyone wants to admit that Byron Jones was a good thing for the Dolphins, all things considered, then I think your love for Grier is equally or more-so lopsided than my opinion. So forgive me and my "negativity" as Dave so kindly likes to call it, when I've been burned for over 20 years in every offseason we've had. Every big name free agenet we've ever signed, except for the "few", doesn't work out.

So, I'll sit here while the crow cooks, and if Jalen becomes the next best thing to happen for Miami, I'll be the first to buy a jersey and retire him right besdie Pouncey.................. or, if it don't work out, I'll keep remembering all these times y'all say my negativity towards Grier is unwarranted and these players keep coming to Miami to essentially retire.

But again, hopefully I am wrong. Go Fins.

Byron Jones was a shut down corner for the Dolphins and we have an escape hatch from a cap perspective to get rid of him. I'm not sure what the problem is with that move.

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If I may, the desperation in progress orchestrated by Grier, hopefully on his last “breath” in Miami, is neon signs that he has failed to build this roster, so you have nothing to apologize for. Ramsey is a diva personified, how long before X pulls a hamstring? I bet the under on that. We’ve seen this movie before.

Armstead, Chubb, Hill and now Ramsey and the millions pushed forward to who knows when won’t be able to do squat without a QB. Does anyone know if this QB can be counted on this year? Next? We know Grier is hoping. So, no, you are absolutely correct regarding your Grier “disdain”. Jones is just the most recent example, and I had to laugh out loud at Peter King’s description of our “invisible” tight end, Hunter Long, being thrown in the trade. Hadn’t heard that term used for draft busts before but in Grier’s case it’s a description that fits.

But, I get it, these sexy names work wonders in the off-season but they are here for a reason. We’ll see around November or so. You said something about waiting 20 years? Try me going on 50.

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Sorry, I forgot to include Peter King’s link.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... en-ramsey/

You know I have always been an optimist over the years, but I can't even argue with you here. I am not a fan of several things:
1. Paying big money (and/or picks) for veterans whose best years are behind them.
2. Drafting defensive players with high draft picks, based on their size or athleticism, if they weren't productive in college.

I loved the X.Howard and J.Holland draft picks. I hated the Iggy pick, because he hadn't proven himself. I hated the Byron Jones signing, the extension of Howard, and signing Chubb. Now, I don't like the Ramsey pick either. Too much money for someone who is quickly approaching 30, though perhaps necessary due to the failure to this point of Iggy.

I prefer to build through the draft. Take advantage of those rookie contracts! Of course, this takes a GM/coach combo who can evaluate college talent.

He didn’t shut anything down last year.

I keep seeing expensive band aids to make up for poor drafts. Meanwhile, no moves yet to shore up the O line and we have a QB who can’t stay healthy. I think we now have a 2nd round pick, a 3rd round pick, a 6th and a 7th….maybe they can find at least one O line starter in there….but the trend is not promising. I also find it funny that folks here seem happy with Mike White as a backup, but dismissed his abilities last year….and so did the Jets. I also see he is a QB who can’t run, so that will be an issue if our O line continues to be “offensive.”

. Catch up with the times. It’s not the 70s anymore. It’s build a team and take the shot. See the Rams. One yr after winning the SB, it’s rebuild time. There are no more dynasties.

KC looking like a dynasty to me. Trade the cheetah? No problem….draft some rookies and win the Super Bowl. SF also looking strong for a long time….they are not winning championships, but they are in the top tier consistently.

. How many players are left on KC since 2019 SB win? Just 3 yrs later. Most likely just Mahomes. There is your dynasty, but it’s just a QB. Plus the NFL is sliding him into the Tom Brady promotional slot.

A State Farm personality wins the SB in a State Farm sponsored stadium on a holding call that could be made on any pass play. After being hit out of bounds to get them into FG range in the AFC championship game as time ran out.

This is what I see from some of the glass-is-half-empty guys here. They will always find something to complain about. All I have to say is to get ready for a fun season.

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Ewwww, a good conspiracy theory. I love those, let's hear some more of 'em.

Then refuse to see that Grier is nothing but perfection molded out of the perfectly perfect GM mold. The real genius of the league. *insert funny laugh here* *insert joking around, don't get butt hurt face here* *insert don't get your panties in a wad* *insert calm down*

Def not my motto on this one, but slant that however you want there kind sir. I don't even keep up with training camp anymore, it's pointless. The only thing I read and care about during that time is injuries. 7v7 drills and Tua throwing bombs in non-pressured situations mean little to nothing. Ramsey picking a ball off in camp, means nothing.

However, I will let the results of the season speak for themselves when the time comes, just like I did with Waddle. I ate that crow, and I'm fine with it. Y'all can have your "every move we make in the off-season is going to get us to the Super Bowl" mentality. Every. Single. Off-season. All of 'em. And y'all have for the last 20+ years, and I support you in that. Good for you.

Then when the pesimist comes out in someone, you know, after being burned by countless moves like this, y'all get all butt hurt. But like I said, Go Fins either way. Go Tua, go Ramsey, and last but not least go Chris Grier.

. Just like a sheep. Believe everything you are being feed. They throw the word conspiracy in front of it for the mass so it will cheapen the actual theory.

How many Covid conspiracy theories are now being proven true? Hunters laptop? Jan. 06 being proven a lie? If you think a billion dollar business is not tinkering with their product for better returns, then wow. How naive can one be? Its why the NFL always talks about the integrity of the game. They want people to believe its on the up and up.


You can joke all you wish, but you will forever live as the poster that cried foul like a byotch when I just ask a random question not addressed to you, but at you to answer. However, you played the hurt byotch