All times are UTC-05:00


Phinfever Home Page

Phinfever Chatroom

Phinfever FAQ




Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:25 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Owner/Admin
Phinfever Owner/Admin

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am
Posts: 24924
Location: Raleigh, NC
Ken Dasher wrote:
Chris Grier
To Dolphins fans, Chris Grier has been almost as polarizing a figure as the QB he selected 5th overall in the 2020 draft. Critics will point to his lack of ability to “fix” the offensive line in spite of the fact that there have been significant resources invested in doing so. Others will never get past mistakes that were made while he was in the front office but not necessarily in charge, as people like Mike Tannenbaum and Adam Gase.

But I believe it’s past time to put some respect on Grier’s name. It’s time to look at the FACTS and not just spout emotional vitriol. So here are some facts to consider. Since Grier was in charge, the following players have been added. You may argue which category some of these players belong in but I do believe most of us would agree based on current production that this list is pretty accurate.


Players that can be considered above-average to elite-level NFL players
Christian Wilkins (2019); Tua Tagovailoa, Robert Hunt, and Emmanuel Ogbah (2020); Jaylen Waddle, Jalen Phillips, and Jevon Holland (2021); Tyreek Hill, Terron Armstead, Thomas Morstead, Connor Williams, Alec Ingold and Bradley Chubb (2022).


Players that can be considered solid NFL starters
Zach Sieler, Andrew Van Ginkel (2019); Brandon Jones and Byron Jones (2020); Raheem Mostert, Melvin Ingram, Kader Kohou, Jeff Wilson (2022)
 

Players that are valuable depth players
Eric Rowe, Miles Gaskin (2019); Clayton Fejedelem (2020); Duke Riley, Nik Needham, Robert Jones, John Jenkins (2021); Trent Sherfield, River Cracraft, Verone McKinley, Justin Bethel, Keion Crossen, Cedrick Wilson (2022)

While it’s true that there have been some noticeable whiffs in the early rounds of the draft such as Noah Igbinoghene, Austin Jackson and Liam Eichenberg, I would answer that for every one of those examples there’s a Kader Kohou, Robert Jones, and Nik Needham. Similarly, not all of our free agent signings have panned out the way we had hoped (Chase Edmonds and Cedric Wilson) but that is more than balanced by under-the-radar signings that have seriously over-performed expectations like Brandon Shell, Trent Sherfield and Jeff Wilson.

Currently, our 53 man roster has 13 players that were originally undrafted free agents. 13! That’s almost 25% of the roster! That doesn’t even include players like Braylon Sanders, Trill Williams or Nik Needham that have shown promise but are either currently injured or on the practice squad. Grier has shown a great knack for finding hidden gems.

Ultimately though it really comes down to this: It’s virtually impossible to dispute now that Grier got the 2 most important decisions right. Head coach Mike McDaniel and QB Tua Tagovailoa. The Dolphins are 7-3 for the first time in decades and are clearly a rising, exciting team that is fun to watch and it’s time Chris Grier gets some flowers for the job he’s done assembling this roster.


http://www.phinfever.com/index.php/9-bl ... ing-as-tua

_________________
* Follow Phinfever on FACEBOOK
* Follow Phinfever on TWITTER


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:25 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Owner/Admin
Phinfever Owner/Admin

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am
Posts: 24924
Location: Raleigh, NC
Excellent job, Ken, and I am i agreement on Grier. He sat there and watched his predecessors make mistakes, and when he got the green light to rework Miami's team in 2019, he has done a good job. I think Grier has a gift of being a good listener to the guys around him, and he tries to add players that will make his head coach succeed. I believe he learned a lot from Flores and now he is learning a lot from McDaniel. The addition of Kohou was made when he listened to Boyer's thoughts on him.

2020:

Image

https://twitter.com/SmartJames1981/stat ... 8940365824

_________________
* Follow Phinfever on FACEBOOK
* Follow Phinfever on TWITTER


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:58 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:26 pm
Posts: 8106
Location: Delray Beach, Florida
Ken Dasher wrote:
Others will never get past mistakes that were made while he was in the front office but not necessarily in charge, as people like Mike Tannenbaum and Adam Gase.


This is one of the more irrelevant points people have made against Grier. He was probably more of an office yes-man for 20 years than the guy making any kinda consequential decisions.

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:15 am 
Offline
Phinfever Draft Analyst
Phinfever Draft Analyst

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:10 pm
Posts: 13669
Location: MA
Very nice write up Ken.

As long as everyone stays reasonably healthy, Grier has Miami in position to be competitive for the next few years.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:45 am 
Offline
Phinfever Starter
Phinfever Starter

Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:17 pm
Posts: 156
Grier has done a really good job. One of the areas that he is not getting enough credit is on how he is managing the salary CAP. In my mind, he has been fantastic! I think the D'Fins are in great shape and will be competitive for the next few seasons.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:12 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:04 pm
Posts: 10218
Awesome Ken. The FACT is that every team misses on 1st rd picks.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar
2020 Phinfever T-Rock FFL Champ
2020 Phinfever T-Rock FFL Champ

Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:58 pm
Posts: 563
Location: Princeton,IL
Great job Ken. The only thing we will have to watch is Jeff Wilson could possibly jump up to above average.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Blog Writer - Good, Bad, & Ugly
Phinfever Blog Writer - Good, Bad, & Ugly

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:59 am
Posts: 27830
Location: Miami, FL
Until Grier can hit on every draft pick like every other GM to ever do GMing, he will suck and will need to be fired.

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:23 pm 
Offline
Phinfever Legend
Phinfever Legend

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:35 pm
Posts: 5344
Location: Anchorage, AK
Rich wrote:
Until Grier can hit on every draft pick like every other GM to ever do GMing, he will suck and will need to be fired.

The sarcasm is strong with this one lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar
2022 Survivor Champ!
2022 Survivor Champ!

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:34 am
Posts: 4257
So... for what it's worth (it's worth a LOT) the final tally on the Laremy Tunsil is that (among other less significant players) the Tunsil trade was leveraged into:

Jaylen Waddle
Jevon Holland
Tyreek Hill
Bradley Chubb

Yeah, too bad Grier sucks.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/miami-dolphins-trades-laremy-tunsil-playoff/ulvo4lfdlkyxz0letqoaqpli


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:39 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Owner/Admin
Phinfever Owner/Admin

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am
Posts: 24924
Location: Raleigh, NC
k-dash wrote:
Similarly, not all of our free agent signings have panned out the way we had hoped (Chase Edmonds and Cedric Wilson) but that is more than balanced by under-the-radar signings that have seriously over-performed expectations like Brandon Shell, Trent Sherfield and Jeff Wilson.


Speaking of Chase Edmunds, the trade hasn't worked out well for the Broncos either.


NBC Sports Edge wrote:
Broncos placed Chase Edmonds (ankle) on injured reserve.

He'll miss at least the next four weeks as he tries to heal from a high-ankle sprain suffered in Week 11. We already knew the timeline, but this cements Latavius Murray as the main starter in Denver's backfield for this month. Marlon Mack is the backup for the time being.


https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/ ... er-broncos

_________________
* Follow Phinfever on FACEBOOK
* Follow Phinfever on TWITTER


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:16 am 
Offline
User avatar
Phinfever Owner/Admin
Phinfever Owner/Admin

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am
Posts: 24924
Location: Raleigh, NC
A good article on Grier this morning. Here's a snippet.

Barry Jackson (Miami Herald) wrote:
Also credit Grier for picking Holland 36th in 2021, instead of succumbing to temptation — as Denver did — to move up and draft running back Javonte Williams, who ran for 903 yards (4.4 per carry) as a rookie but tore his ACL this season. Williams would have been a good pick, but Holland was the better choice, because impact safeties are more difficult to find than solid running backs.

Have there been mistakes during the rebuild? Of course. The jury is still out on a few high picks, including Austin Jackson (18th pick) and Igbinoghene (30th). But no GM is perfect, and the smart moves (Robert Hunt, Phillips, Waddle, the use of trade assets, Terron Armstead, Nik Needham, Kader Kohou, Connor Williams, Raheem Mostert and others) have outweighed the mistakes.


Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt- ... rylink=cpy

_________________
* Follow Phinfever on FACEBOOK
* Follow Phinfever on TWITTER


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC-05:00


Phinfever Home Page

Phinfever Chatroom

Phinfever FAQ


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 56 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited | Chopped and modified by Coots | Original design by Prosk8r