Flores already was essentially running the Dolphins building, according to a source in direct contact with Dolphins management. But he wanted even more control, the source said. He wanted the authority formalized, to eliminate the contract annoyance of general manager Chris Grier having final say on the draft and free agency.

He wanted more power in everything, final say on virtually everything. He wanted more people to report to him. He already had full authority to pick a coaching staff and planned to make more changes, beginning with the offensive staff. At least one of the offensive coordinators was expecting to be dismissed, if not both.

What’s strange about this is that Grier — who likes to avoid conflict — basically gave Flores everything he wanted. There wasn’t a single player on the roster that Flores didn’t sign off on. And yet Grier’s deference still wasn’t enough to appease Flores or sooth tensions between the two.

As one Dolphins person said, people need to stop blaming Grier entirely for the personnel moves that didn’t work out the past three years and blame them both equally. And both deserve credit for the ones that worked out.

If true, and usually Barry Jackson doesn't write something that he cannot verify, he wanted way too much power and pretty much wanted Grier's job, too.



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I distinctly remember reading an interview where Grier said draft decisions where his final decision. If his decision was to turn it over to someone else still his decision so imo he does take the blame for bad decisions (O-line) and lets us know that whoever is the coach will also be picking the players if Grier remains GM. So let's hope it is someone who knows how to pick offensive linemen.

If Flores was getting everything he wanted then why would he try to get 100% of the personnel decisions? I think Grier valued Flores decision as he wanted his head coach to succeed, so, he valued his opinion.

The head coach wanted “too much power” over his guys?

The head coach wanted “too much power” over his guys? As opposed to who else? Some dbag canoe in a suit & tie that the players mostly see warming the bleachers and in press appearances?

Grier looks like a slob in his press conferences to me. He couldn’t lead an army of raccoons into a dumpster.

I don't think that's what the article was saying at all. He basically wanted to be the football czar.

Brian Flores had never even formally been a defensive coordinator, let alone a head coach. Why would he think he had earned the right to call all the shots with his sub .500 record?

The article specifically mentions draft and free agency and contract language not giving him final say in those areas although it appears he did have final say already he just had too run those things by Grier for his approval. Not every coach is a good talent evaluator.

Yeah…draft picks & free agents would eventually be his guys so I’m not sure where the disconnect about what I said is

As one Dolphins person said, people need to stop blaming Grier entirely for the personnel moves that didn’t work out the past three years and blame them both equally. And both deserve credit for the ones that worked out.

To East's point, I have to laugh at Barry Jackson writing this today. He nearly had a coronary over the firing yesterday. Now he is doing the bidding of Ross/Grier to show just how bad Flores made it for everyone.

For me and the way I understand organizations being set up is "his guys" is the disconnect. They are not his guys until the GM says so. This is not that unusual an arrangement in the NFL. Not all coaches are good talent evaluators. i think some head coaches may even have to get there coaching staffs approved not sure about that one. Grier was wrong in letting coach Flo pick o linemen. Or if he would have picked the same ones then either Flo had the wrong staff to develop them or Grier should be sent packing to if all he is is a rubber stamp for the coach. Imo Grier should be gone if nothing more than the oline woes because however the o line developed it was his decision.

I'm not so sure I believe all these knee jerk articles and stuff being leaked out by the organization about how bad Flore was, how he was hard to work with and for, about how he wanted too much power. Smells like a bunch of crap to me. You don't get a team who went on a 7 game skid, to turn around and win 7 in a row, if they don't buy in to waht you're selling, or they don't want to play for you.

I'm not so sure I believe all these knee jerk articles and stuff being leaked out by the organization about how bad Flore was, how he was hard to work with and for, about how he wanted too much power. Smells like a bunch of crap to me. You don't get a team who went on a 7 game skid, to turn around and win 7 in a row, if they don't buy in to waht you're selling, or they don't want to play for you.

When did we ever see a good offensive game plan against any opponent?

What the heck do you mean? I thought the double reverse to Gesicki who then threw it into triple coverage in wet/cold conditions was definitely outside the box thinking.

The two deep passes in that game came from Gesicki and Jacoby Brissett. Makes sense to me ... haters.

What the heck do you mean? I thought the double reverse to Gesicki who then threw it into triple coverage in wet/cold conditions was definitely outside the box thinking.

NY is the perfect place for Flores and Watson...so hope that happens. lol

As much as he can be a goof at times, the Big O has been saying this about Flores for a long time. He nailed this one. His argument was that the players came together for each other and for pride, not for Flores.

It is why I asked the question. When did we ever see a good offensive game plan against any opponent? Why were they always attempting things that seemed irrational at best. Sounds to me like Flores created a lot of division and was positioning himself to get the power he craved by proving his defense was the reason for success.

If this is accurate...

Maybe Grier needs to grow a spine and act like a true GM, especially if you are bringing in a guy with no head coaching experience. I could understand his approach if Jim Caldwell or Doug Pederson came here. Those guys have a proven track record and a ton of experience.

Brian Flores had never even formally been a defensive coordinator, let alone a head coach. Why would he think he had earned the right to call all the shots with his sub .500 record?

Because he is good? When you fire a coach and he becomes the hottest coach on the market? 19-14 with an offense that lacked talent the last two yr?

19-14 is middling. Sort of what we have been since the 90s.


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Without any context, I would agree with what you said. But with context and the environment / situation he was put in, I think over .500 is actually pretty legit. Certainly not warranted of a firing and a media trash leaking frenzy by this organization. Screw Ross. And Grier.

Without any context, I would agree with what you said. But with context and the environment / situation he was put in, I think over .500 is actually pretty legit. Certainly not warranted of a firing and a media trash leaking frenzy by this organization. Screw Ross. And Grier.

It's another reboot process, and if you look at the coaches getting fired, the chances that we'll get another lemon is high and we'll be back in this same spot after 3 years.

Why not trade a our first round pick for Sean Payton? Sounds crazy, but I'm tired of going after retreads and coordinators. We have plenty of cap to add players.

19-14 is middling. Sort of what we have been since the 90s.

Maybe, but he at least made Miami a team to be concerned with.