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Which Coach Would You like as our Next Head Coach?
Bills OC Brian Daboll 12%  12%  [ 2 ]
Former Lions HC Jim Caldwell 35%  35%  [ 6 ]
Former Eagles HC Doug Pederson 35%  35%  [ 6 ]
Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Buccaneers OC Byron Leftwich 12%  12%  [ 2 ]
Chargers OC Joe Lombardi (grandson Vince Lombardi) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Rams OC Kevin O'Connell 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ravens OC Greg Roman 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Former Jets DC Todd Bowles 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Patriots OC Josh McDaniels 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Bills OC Brian Daboll
Former Lions HC Jim Caldwell
Former Eagles HC Doug Pederson
Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy
Buccaneers OC Byron Leftwich
Chargers OC Joe Lombardi (grandson Vince Lombardi)
Rams OC Kevin O'Connell
Ravens OC Greg Roman
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I chose Jim Caldwell. He has a proven track record with QBs. He has a good win loss record as a head coach. He has made a Superbowl but not won it. His only really bad season is when Peyton Manning was out for the year for the Colts and they went 2-14.

He even got the Lions to the playoffs.

My only concern is his age.

Bills OC Brian Daboll - don't know if he can lead a locker room.
Former Eagles HC Doug Pederson - already won a Superbowl
Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy - too many run ins with the law
Buccaneers OC Byron Leftwich - too inexperienced but intriguing
Chargers OC Joe Lombardi (grandson Vince Lombardi) - don't know much about him honestly
Rams OC Kevin O'Connell - don't know much about him
Ravens OC Greg Roman - know the name but not much about him
Former Jets DC Todd Bowles - would be my third choice but would prefer a QB guy
Patriots OC Josh McDaniels - would be my second choice but Bellicheck tree... one can hope he learned something from his time in Denber

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I originally wanted Caldwell, and he's still my 2nd choice, but I've gravitated to Pederson. Good track record, right offensive system, and a proven winner.


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Todd Bowles intrigues me. He was saddled with a terrible GM and hot mess of a roster in NY. I know his locker rooms loved him. He seems to be a better version of the Flores personality.

Jim Caldwell and Doug Pederson seem like solid hires but I can't say either excite me.

I think the best move is to hire a "leader of the team" head coach who excels on one side of the ball plus a "head coach" of the other side. An innovative mind like Sean McVay when he paired with Wade Phillips.

Maybe Brian Daboll and a defensive position coach who wants a promotion to DC?

Its going to take a while to digest all of this. Is the new guy going to build around Tua? Do they bring in their own QB with a whole new system? Does that require all new WRs? We know for sure the OL will be rebuilt.


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Salguero tweeting that Ross would prefer an experienced coach with past success.

The 3YPC guys said they have sources saying Caldwell isn't the target.

Don't forget that Miami really like Dennis Allen back in 2019.


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Final note, Vegas odds have Daboll as the current favorite. Pederson and Bienemy tied for 2nd.

As much as it pains me to say it, a Bienemy hire probably means Watson is still a decent possibility.


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I like Jim Caldwell, but health is a major concern. Doug Pederson is a very interesting option, and he is my vote.


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k-dash wrote:
I originally wanted Caldwell, and he's still my 2nd choice, but I've gravitated to Pederson. Good track record, right offensive system, and a proven winner.


I originally wanted Pederson, but he already won a Superbowl. You are more likely to win a Superbowl with a guy who previously coached somewhere else and got close than you are with a guy who already won it.

No head coach has ever won a Superbowl with two different teams.

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I want O’Connell. The Rams’ offensive scheme is very good and the McVay coaching tree has been successful. The move this year to acquire Stafford was very sound. Also, the Rams got a lot out of Goff during his time on the team…. I think O’Connell would be a good hire for Tua and if that does not work out, then I have faith O’Connell would be able to select the right QB in the draft or free agency.


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We can always poach Bull O’Brien from the Jags…

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Per Tom Pelissero, Miami has requested to interview Dallas DC Dan Quinn.

He fits the criteria for what Ross wants, although it brings questions about who he would bring in to run the offense.


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Per Tom Pelissero, Miami has requested to interview Dallas DC Dan Quinn.

He fits the criteria for what Ross wants, although it brings questions about who he would bring in to run the offense.


I like it. This guy was a half away from winning a Superbowl. This is exactly the type of guy I want. FIre in the belly, hungry, jilted.

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Miami is also interviewing Kellen Moore, Dallas's OC.

Seems like they are going to interview a lot of people.

Still have a hunch its Daboll with the promise of "if Tua doesn't work out, we'll get you a QB in the 2023 1st Round."


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Rich wrote:
jammer wrote:
Per Tom Pelissero, Miami has requested to interview Dallas DC Dan Quinn.

He fits the criteria for what Ross wants, although it brings questions about who he would bring in to run the offense.


I like it. This guy was a half away from winning a Superbowl. This is exactly the type of guy I want. FIre in the belly, hungry, jilted.


Adam Beasley tweeting that this option has legs. Definitely something keep an eye on.


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Pedersen intrigues me, but I was not at all impressed with his final season at Philly. He mishandled the Wentz situation and pretty obviously tanked the last game of the season.

Caldwell and McDaniels are also a couple names I like. I wouldn’t mind seeing Bowles come back here, but we’d have to get someone that can turn around the offense.


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Phin wrote:
Pedersen intrigues me, but I was not at all impressed with his final season at Philly. He mishandled the Wentz situation and pretty obviously tanked the last game of the season.

Caldwell and McDaniels are also a couple names I like. I wouldn’t mind seeing Bowles come back here, but we’d have to get someone that can turn around the offense.

Curious. What about McDaniels thinks he will succeed? Also Jim Caldwell?


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Pedersen intrigues me, but I was not at all impressed with his final season at Philly. He mishandled the Wentz situation and pretty obviously tanked the last game of the season.

Caldwell and McDaniels are also a couple names I like. I wouldn’t mind seeing Bowles come back here, but we’d have to get someone that can turn around the offense.

Curious. What about McDaniels thinks he will succeed? Also Jim Caldwell?

How does anyone know?
I think McDaniels did a great job with iMac Jones this year and knows how to work with what he has. He has been a HC before and failed, but eventually guys get another chance. He will be hungry to prove himself.
Caldwell I don’t know. Is he healthy? I think he is sharp.


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Please , not a defensive minded guy , not a guy from a Tom Brady Quarterbacked team and not a first time guy.
I think a call to the Saints to try and see about Payton is in order here.


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jammer wrote:
Seems like they are going to interview a lot of people.


Add Cardinals defensive coordinator Vance Joseph to the list ... because he was so outstanding as our DC and the Broncos HC? He talks a good game, but please pass.

The last time we interviewed a lot of candidates (10, I think) we hired Cam Cameron.

If you're trying to keep up:

Cardinals defensive coordinator Vance Joseph
Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll
Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn
Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore
San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel

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Doesn’t seem to be a lot of Leftwich hype here? I’d want him Bieniemy, or Moore, if we are going to get rid of Flores, who was a great defensive mind (other reasons aside) I would want an offensive guy for the role. I still don’t have too much faith in Pederson, but he did hire good coordinators.


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The staff that a new coach brings is everything. Look at all the teams in the playoffs. We are trying to pick a coach from their staffs. That’s why I believe someone that has some pull with experience will have more contacts and relationships with proven or at least better body of work.


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The staff that a new coach brings is everything. Look at all the teams in the playoffs. We are trying to pick a coach from their staffs. That’s why I believe someone that has some pull with experience will have more contacts and relationships with proven or at least better body of work.


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The staff that a new coach brings is everything. Look at all the teams in the playoffs. We are trying to pick a coach from their staffs. That’s why I believe someone that has some pull with experience will have more contacts and relationships with proven or at least better body of work.


Agree with this. If we hire the young OC from team B, he will bring in the jockstrap guy from Iowa State to run the offense and the janitor from Pensacola Community College to run the defense. The rest will be high school maintenance personnel.

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I disagree, but only somewhat… our defense is proven, and we have cap space. Our oline stinks, RBs stink (nothing against Duke), but we have potential in many areas (Waddle, Parker, any of the tight ends, etc…).

If we can have a coach that maintains our defensive integrity (and if we don’t after firing Flores I’d be even more disappointed), I think new-school offensive minded is what we need, and will help us… look at the trends in the nfl, look at our personnel, it just makes sense. These guys know all the old school rules of Parcels and others, but are able to adapt and modernize it for today’s game.

Regardless of my thoughts, we absolutely cannot let Tua go year after year with a new coordinator, if we keep him.


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Also, looking at the teams in the playoffs, I count a lot of guys who inherited good teams, Bill, or the young minded offensive coach


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I would prefer an older, experienced HC like Pederson, Caldwell or Quinn. I think any one of them could put a solid staff together in short order. If we go with a young guy, I'm leaning towards Moore. Daboll's record actually stinks until last year. The fans wanted to run him out of town. The only draw is his familiarity with Tua. The kid in SF may be a genius, but that doesn't mean he can lead.


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Phin wrote:
I think McDaniels did a great job with iMac Jones this year and knows how to work with what he has. He has been a HC before and failed, but eventually guys get another chance. He will be hungry to prove himself.
After colossal failure in Denver and the fact he accepted the job in Indy only to back out a few yrs ago. I'm not on board with this guy.

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Caldwell I don’t know. Is he healthy? I think he is sharp.
Probably a great coach. At 66 not a long term or maybe not even a short term answer.


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I rode with Caldwell. Maybe he could bring in his own McDaniels to his BillyCheat as a successor…it’s definitely not the norm but abnormality is sometimes what gets you over the edge. I’m sure Caldwell has some of the deepest networks in the league. It would have to be his team.

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Peter Schrager (twitter) wrote:
Some interview timings… Get your day planners and trackers out—

FRIDAY: Ex-Dolphins HC Brian Flores with the Bears
SUNDAY: BILLS OC Brian Daboll with the Dolphins
SUNDAY: BILLS DC Leslie Frazier with the Dolphins


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Leslie Frazier? I didn't know he was still in the league. Missed that somehow. Anyway, I don't see the attraction there.


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k-dash wrote:
Leslie Frazier? I didn't know he was still in the league. Missed that somehow. Anyway, I don't see the attraction there.


Runs a pretty good defense in Buffalo and has experience as an HC


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jammer wrote:
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Leslie Frazier? I didn't know he was still in the league. Missed that somehow. Anyway, I don't see the attraction there.


Runs a pretty good defense in Buffalo and has experience as an HC


He was 21-32-1 in Minnesota with 1 playoff appearance. Not awful, but not inspiring either. I don't remember much about that team.


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He was 21-32-1 in Minnesota with 1 playoff appearance. Not awful, but not inspiring either. I don't remember much about that team.


Oh I agree. Just pointing out that he is worth an interview.

Part of it may also be getting intel on Tua (similar to Daboll). Time to start seeing what other coaches think because if a new HC does not want him then you have to be prepared to make a QB move in March. I imagine a lot of those back channels are currently being explored because we know everyone bleeping tampers.


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Vegas Odds for new coach:

Brian Daboll +200
Mike McDaniel +500
Doug Pederson +500

Daboll jumps up a bit
Pederson stays the same
McDaniel makes a big leap as he wasn't previously given odds


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Just a little info.

Smart Guy (twitter) wrote:
As a Head Coach Doug Pederson had the average rankings on offense:

Points - 15th
Yards - 16th
Pass Yards - 17th
Rush Yards - 12th

2016-2020 rankings added and divided by seasons to get average.


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I didn't know anything about him before but I'm intrigued by the things I hear about the new guy on the list from the Rams.


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Daboli would be the one to conform to Grier.


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FINesse wrote:
Daboli would be the one to conform to Grier.

I’ve been coming here since 2002, and I notice you never share an opinion on what the Phins should do, only criticism and cynicism of what they do. Why don’t you sack up and make a stand on what you think we need to do. Try being specific. I’m curious, to say the least.


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Daboli would be the one to conform to Grier.

I’ve been coming here since 2002, and I notice you never share an opinion on what the Phins should do, only criticism and cynicism of what they do. Why don’t you sack up and make a stand on what you think we need to do. Try being specific. I’m curious, to say the least.

Did not realise you make the rules. But ...
Said it on another thread.
Fire Grier and call New Orleans. Trade for Payton and give him control.

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FINesse wrote:
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Daboli would be the one to conform to Grier.

I’ve been coming here since 2002, and I notice you never share an opinion on what the Phins should do, only criticism and cynicism of what they do. Why don’t you sack up and make a stand on what you think we need to do. Try being specific. I’m curious, to say the least.

Did not realise you make the rules. But ...
Said it on another thread.
Fire Grier and call New Orleans. Trade for Payton and give him control.

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That response doesn’t sound like it’s an endorsement. It’s a statement of his ability to conform to a GM for which you’ve stated should be fired.


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