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Thrilling, game-breaking talent who will come into the league as one of the fastest receivers to ever play the game. His whereabouts pre-snap and post-snap must be accounted for at all times. Despite his size, he's a legitimate outside option, thanks to his ability to not only take the top off the defense, but also go up and win 50-50 throws. Waddle's adept at working all three levels, so it will be tough for defenses to predict how offenses will utilize him, as he has the potential to post a higher catch volume in the right offense. Waddle can instantly upgrade a team's scoring potential, whether it's with the deep ball, the catch-and-run or as a return man.


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How many days until we cut Grant?


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Craptacular job Grier...you idiot. The Eagles thank you sucker...SF also used us up.


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I like the Waddle pick if he can stay on the field. He's going to be something else if Tua and he can connect.

Dolphins pick 1A - Alabama WR Jalen Waddle (draft analysis)

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I like the Waddle pick if he can stay on the field. He's going to be something else if Tua and he can connect.

Dolphins pick 1A - Alabama WR Jalen Waddle (draft analysis)

Tua's reaction.



We already have his clone, Albert Wilson, and a faster smurf with Grant.....thumbs down.


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I feel like Smith has more upside. When the hell does a 170lbs WR steal a Heismann? There is a lot of paradox going on with Waddle jumping in front of his teammate Smith. Maybe they’ll both be All Pro kinda guys but Smith feels like more of a unique player to me. But then again I don’t really know shhh about this draft class.

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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
I feel like Smith has more upside. When the hell does a 170lbs WR steal a Heismann? There is a lot of paradox going on with Waddle jumping in front of his teammate Smith. Maybe they’ll both be All Pro kinda guys but Smith feels like more of a unique player to me. But then again I don’t really know shhh about this draft class.

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Smith is a freak...absolute freak. Big mistake passing on him and also trading down far enough not to snag Chase or Pitts. Shame on you Grier. The Eagles have to love us. We give them extra picks and they take the guy they wanted. Played Grier like a fiddle. Had to panic and take Waddle because he felt the cupboard would be bare at 18.


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We already have his clone, Albert Wilson, and a faster smurf with Grant.....thumbs down.

Seriously? Wilson is a shell of his former self after his injury.. My grandmother can catch better than Grant and she has been dead since 1983.


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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
I feel like Smith has more upside. When the hell does a 170lbs WR steal a Heismann? There is a lot of paradox going on with Waddle jumping in front of his teammate Smith. Maybe they’ll both be All Pro kinda guys but Smith feels like more of a unique player to me. But then again I don’t really know shhh about this draft class.

Before his ankle injury Waddle was Wr 1.


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Hopefully he pans out, but I do not see his game fitting with Tua....and I mean the post injury Tua we picked....not that guy tearing it up before that horrible injury. I said hard pass on Tua after that injury and I still think that was the right call. I hope Tua returns to form and shows us he is that guy....I love being wrong and being surprised by the Phins....but as the decades go by, I just see lots of mistakes in Miami.


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Before his ankle injury Waddle was Wr 1.


Yeah.

Then came the Heismann.

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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
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Before his ankle injury Waddle was Wr 1.


Yeah.

Then came the Heismann.


So true...LOL....and the tape and stats do not lie. Smith is awesome.


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AFCMiamiEast wrote:

Yeah.

Then came the Heismann.

Smith is awesome. So can Waddle be bad? Miami screwed up making that trade. Pitts will dominate the league. Waddle needs to be a stud.


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According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence.





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According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence.


That is interesting, and it changes my perspective quite a bit on what happened, if it is true. If this is the case, then trading down from 3 to 6 was an obvious move. I am sure they didn't want to risk staying at 12. I will no longer criticize the trades themselves.

Rather, my critique moves to their player personnel evaluation -- how could they have Waddle ahead of Pitts and Chase on their board?!


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Sorry, meant to write something sooner but my couch was so comfortable I fell sleep after the Chargers pick.

Thoughts on Jaylen Waddle:

This has been telegraphed for a while based on how the Wide Receiver room is currently constructed. I've seen a lot of complaints about how he is not a "complete" receiver or that his game needs more polish. I think everyone has to take a breath and see the forest from the trees with this selection. Waddle has some outstanding routes and is NOT just a vertical threat. His footwork gets him open quickly underneath and the homerun speed is the icing on the cake. This is not Ted Ginn 2.0. Waddle can certainly stretch the field but his damage will be done in more of a slot role. He is a very good set of hands. Make no mistake that Tua probably provided a lot of intel to seal this selection. Now take it a step further. Imagine defenses having to account for both him and Will Fuller. They can basically interchange on being decoys while the other works the middle of the field or gets open deep. Waddle was the missing piece to this Dolphins offense. The draft is loaded with slower, possession type or even 50/50 type targets.


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Dphins4me wrote:
AFCMiamiEast wrote:

Yeah.

Then came the Heismann.

Smith is awesome. So can Waddle be bad? Miami screwed up making that trade. Pitts will dominate the league. Waddle needs to be a stud.


Waddle is going to be a stud.


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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
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Before his ankle injury Waddle was Wr 1.


Yeah.

Then came the Heismann.


The Heisman never would have happened of Waddle was healthy.


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I like the Waddle pick if he can stay on the field. He's going to be something else if Tua and he can connect.

Dolphins pick 1A - Alabama WR Jalen Waddle (draft analysis)

Tua's reaction.



We already have his clone, Albert Wilson, and a faster smurf with Grant.....thumbs down.


So why not trade (or release) one or both? I feel our WR room is stacked with pretty good talent, and this may be the way to get a couple more late round picks.... and clear some cap room

We have Parker, Williams, Fuller, Waddle, and Bowden/Hollins/Perry among others.... We can only keep so many. Some of these guys clearly won't be here


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So why not trade (or release) one or both? I feel our WR room is stacked with pretty good talent, and this may be the way to get a couple more late round picks.... and clear some cap room

We have Parker, Williams, Fuller, Waddle, and Bowden/Hollins/Perry among others.... We can only keep so many. Some of these guys clearly won't be here


This was a serious upgrade over Grant. I like Grant and believe he is a story of someone who overreached what everyone said he could do with hard work. I see the Dolphins trying to trade him for a late draft pick. He was a 6th round pick and we'll probably get a team to bite on him for another 6th round pick in return due to him being such a dangerous punt returner. Waddle also gives us a slot receiver which we really didn't have last year as we moved players around to fill the role.

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Phinished wrote:
Hopefully he pans out, but I do not see his game fitting with Tua.


Actually, his game fits better with Tua than Smith. He is a YAC guy and Tua is a guy that likes to get the ball out quickly and accurately.

Tua is a question mark going downfield and that is where Smith thrives more.

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According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence.





https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2021/ ... dle-board/



Must admit, when they passed on Sewell, I was quite upset. Trading with SF and then PHI didn't make any sense. If the Team was going receiver, then stay put at 3 and get Chase or Pitts.

But I may have been a victim of the fake news of the talking heads. If they were going Waddle all the way, then good job for getting some picks..........we'll be happy in '23.


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I know... I know... I usually start these posts off with "As an Alabama fan..." - but really, it's relevant.

Here is my thing with Waddle, and I'm not going to the depths of the earth to provide random off the wall stats, just what I seen on the field watching these guys play, every Saturday, practices, etc.... when Waddle went down, Smith carried the team, and probably or at least it felt like, he gained in production. Yeah Waddle complimented him well when he was healthy, but when Waddle went down, it seemed like Smith got even better. I'm just not coninced if it was the other way around, that would be the case.

Did anyone see ow Smith played in the Championship game?

I wasn't a huge fan of drafting either of them, and I'll eat crow one day if they both work out, I would have rather had Chase or Pitts, but what's done is done.

Smith, while he may not have had the "size" you wanted for a #1... has anyone paid attention to his measurables? The kid is a freak athlete. Look at his wing span, the same as Calvin Johnson's... his hands are HUGE for a kid his size.

If we were going to do all this trading around, I just felt like Waddle would've been there later.


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According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence.





https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2021/ ... dle-board/
. Oh wow. With Pitts below, not any type of expert, but wow


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Dphins4me wrote:
AQNOR wrote:
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According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence.





https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2021/ ... dle-board/
. Oh wow. With Pitts below, not any type of expert, but wow


Boy...they really can not evaluate players....just wow.


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Rich wrote:
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Hopefully he pans out, but I do not see his game fitting with Tua.


Actually, his game fits better with Tua than Smith. He is a YAC guy and Tua is a guy that likes to get the ball out quickly and accurately.

Tua is a question mark going downfield and that is where Smith thrives more.


Smith creates great separation and supposedly that was the problem for Tua and our current receiving corps. I can see Waddle gaining separation on deep routes that Tua will miss...


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Phinished wrote:
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Hopefully he pans out, but I do not see his game fitting with Tua.


Actually, his game fits better with Tua than Smith. He is a YAC guy and Tua is a guy that likes to get the ball out quickly and accurately.

Tua is a question mark going downfield and that is where Smith thrives more.


Smith creates great separation and supposedly that was the problem for Tua and our current receiving corps. I can see Waddle gaining separation on deep routes that Tua will miss...


Phinished, how about you create some emoji that has the following meanings. You could then just post that emoji instead of having to write it all out each time. :)
1. Smith creates separation, and he will be great in the NFL. The Dolphins are idiots for not drafting him.
2. Waddle is fast, but Tua can't hit the deep ball, so it doesn't matter.
3. The Dolphins are idiots for not drafting Harris at 18.
4. The Dolphins are idiots for trading out of #3.
5. Stevenson is a beast.
6. The Dolphins must draft Humphrey, or they are idiots.


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Congrats to Jammer. He's been saying the Dolphins like Waddle over Smith for what seems like months now.


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Let’s just revisit this pick at the end of the season, and compare it to everyone we passed on as we moved down and up like a yo yo .... grading Waddle as the #2 player in this draft is a head scratcher.


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Sorry, meant to write something sooner but my couch was so comfortable I fell sleep after the Chargers pick.

Thoughts on Jaylen Waddle:

This has been telegraphed for a while based on how the Wide Receiver room is currently constructed. I've seen a lot of complaints about how he is not a "complete" receiver or that his game needs more polish. I think everyone has to take a breath and see the forest from the trees with this selection. Waddle has some outstanding routes and is NOT just a vertical threat. His footwork gets him open quickly underneath and the homerun speed is the icing on the cake. This is not Ted Ginn 2.0. Waddle can certainly stretch the field but his damage will be done in more of a slot role. He is a very good set of hands. Make no mistake that Tua probably provided a lot of intel to seal this selection. Now take it a step further. Imagine defenses having to account for both him and Will Fuller. They can basically interchange on being decoys while the other works the middle of the field or gets open deep. Waddle was the missing piece to this Dolphins offense. The draft is loaded with slower, possession type or even 50/50 type targets.


Hope so! He does seem like the type of player Tua would match up well with in the slot.

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Smith creates great separation and supposedly that was the problem for Tua and our current receiving corps. I can see Waddle gaining separation on deep routes that Tua will miss...


I feel like you haven't watched video or read scouting reports on Waddle. He is uncoverable on crossing patterns and gets great separation at all three levels. He can play inside or outside.

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What do you think Rich? Is Waddle the best receiver for the Phins in this draft?


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What do you think Rich? Is Waddle the best receiver for the Phins in this draft?


In this draft? No I would have preferred Chase or Pitts (yes, I consider him a WR).

But Waddle may be the best fit given what else is on the team at the position.

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I think Chase and Waddle were interchangeable. Had Joe Burrow not been in Cinci, there's an argument that Waddle gets picked there. But when there's a stat like "Ja'marr Chase only caught passes from 1 quarterback in college, and that was Joe Burrow" flying around, it's pretty easy to see why the Bengals were in pursuit.


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I think Chase and Waddle were interchangeable. Had Joe Burrow not been in Cinci, there's an argument that Waddle gets picked there. But when there's a stat like "Ja'marr Chase only caught passes from 1 quarterback in college, and that was Joe Burrow" flying around, it's pretty easy to see why the Bengals were in pursuit.
Chase was a Burrow pick alone. Cincy would have went OL had Chase not been there. Burrow wanted his Wr from LSU


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What do you think Rich? Is Waddle the best receiver for the Phins in this draft?


In this draft? No I would have preferred Chase or Pitts (yes, I consider him a WR).

But Waddle may be the best fit given what else is on the team at the position.


You mean this?


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Actually I was reffering to his ability to get separation quickly underneath, make the catch and get YAC.


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I'm a little disappointed as I expect every pass he catches to go to the end zone, but I'll live.

:))

Seriously, though. He's fast and slippery.


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Check out the speed and his burst.


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