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 Post subject: Bess????
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:54 pm 
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Can someone please tell me why Bess is returning punts. He has not done anything returning punts in a season in half. We must have better performance from the punt returners.

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Because we have nobody else who can return punts.

Bess is serviceable. He heads north which is what the coaching staff likes.


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Seriously, what % of punts are even returnable?

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Justin Miller was cut today I believe. He is a quality return man. If Miami is interested.


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Dphins4me wrote:
Justin Miller was cut today I believe. He is a quality return man. If Miami is interested.


As far as I know he is a kick return guy, not really a punt returner. Could be wrong though.

Plus, Miami doesn't need another CB on the roster...lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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I think they do....

I wasn't and havn't been happy with the pass D. You can blitz all you want but if you can't cover one on one...It won't matter, JMO

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Also, I thought Nolan Carroll was going to give the hits not take them...He looked slow getting up on one of those returns...Then goes out and gets burned in coverage....

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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The Hen wrote:
I think they do....

I wasn't and havn't been happy with the pass D. You can blitz all you want but if you can't cover one on one...It won't matter, JMO


Miller is a return specialist. He's listed as a CB but I don't think has gotten a single snap at it in his CB in his career.

I should have said that Miami doesn't need another ST specialist whose "position" is CB, (Jason Allen).


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Well if he is a pure returner...We need him.

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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The Hen wrote:
Well if he is a pure returner...We need him.


Just looked up the stats and I was way off. Looks like he played plenty of CB back in the day.

Not sure if he has been injured or not, but he has hardly returned or played the last few seasons...Only 3 combined games played in the last 3 years.

Not sure he's really an upgrade, even as a return man, over Carroll/Cobbs.


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Ya, saw that also....Moore got a chance and slipped....LOL

I guess I should have said we need someone back there that isn't going to be counted on to start...(Bess)

or someone that doesn't look uncomfortable back there taking a big hit...(Carroll) vs we need "him".

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Ya, saw that also....Moore got a chance and slipped....LOL

I guess I should have said we need someone back there that isn't going to be counted on to start...(Bess)

or someone that doesn't look comfortable back there taking a big hit...(Carroll) vs we need "him".


Maybe we can convince Chris Williams to come back to the NFL?? Lmao......
http://www.ufl-football.com/hartford-co ... iams-chris


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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Ya, saw that also....Moore got a chance and slipped....LOL

I guess I should have said we need someone back there that isn't going to be counted on to start...(Bess)

or someone that doesn't look uncomfortable back there taking a big hit...(Carroll) vs we need "him".


I like the move Moore put on though, I say give him a shot, he's not gonna see all that much time at receiver anyways


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:37 pm 
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Phins Rock wrote:
Maybe we can convince Chris Williams to come back to the NFL?? Lmao......
http://www.ufl-football.com/hartford-co ... iams-chris


I will probably go to one of their games this season and get to watch him play. But they don't do punts in arena league so I can't scout that out for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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degs wrote:
Phins Rock wrote:
Maybe we can convince Chris Williams to come back to the NFL?? Lmao......
http://www.ufl-football.com/hartford-co ... iams-chris


I will probably go to one of their games this season and get to watch him play. But they don't do punts in arena league so I can't scout that out for you.


He was a dynamite return guy, just couldn't hold onto the ball lol


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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My apologies, he's in the UFL (Colonials are a new team in Hartford. I just assumed it was like Arena League III).

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He was a dynamite return guy, just couldn't hold onto the ball lol


And you wonder why the guy is in the UFL?


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Hey Dave.... your dirty language filter is a little over aggressive.

In the post above, I typed the word "a-s-s-u-m-e-d" and the filter changed it to "butt"

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:23 pm 
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Bess is returning punts because he has the surest hands on the team. Most of the time you're calling fair catch anyway. Bess runs straight ahead and hangs on to the ball. Unless we go out and trade for Devin Hester there is no reason to expect big things from the punt return game this year. I just want us to get positive yardage and not turn the ball over.


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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sums up our return game =poop!!!
no threat what so ever

why on earth we dont use cobbs as our kick returner more +if we could of traded for crayton [a 7th rnd was nothing to give up] for a 3rd/4th receiver and a punt returner , iam sure it would have been a big upgrade


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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moley wrote:
sums up our return game =poop!!!
no threat what so ever

why on earth we dont use cobbs as our kick returner more +if we could of traded for crayton [a 7th rnd was nothing to give up] for a 3rd/4th receiver and a punt returner , iam sure it would have been a big upgrade


Crayton is not that much of an upgrade...and why use Cobbs in the preseason when you know what he can do and he's coming back from an ACL injury? Let the new receivers and Nolan Carroll return it to see what they can do.

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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
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I agree Bess is a good slot possession receiver but he is not good at all in the return game. He never shows flashes that he can break one. He also has not been the most sure handed guy back there either.


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 Post subject: Re: Bess????
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:20 am 
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Crayton is not that much of an upgrade...and why use Cobbs in the preseason when you know what he can do and he's coming back from an ACL injury? Let the new receivers and Nolan Carroll return it to see what they can do.


Good points. Why wasn't Wallace or Moore back there? There should have been a rotation back there until someone stepped up.


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