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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:41 pm 
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Micah Johnson hits QB Johnson as the ball is leaving. His shoulder pad into the mid-section, head to the side he then drives through the tackle to get the big guy down. Now maybe the ref was thinking he should've looked up and realized the ball was gone? How many times did the big guy stiff arm an opposing defender if the guy was playing patticake with him? Did he wrinkle the QB's skirt? These kinds of calls have to stop. When you pair that with the helmet to helmet contact on Thigpen just the series prior to that, it makes you realize these folks don't have a clue what they're doing out there.


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That was a very very bad call.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:47 pm 
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it's like i said in the chat during the game. as long as we have the Tom Brady types of rules in place all sorts of hits will be flagged on the QB. It is like the QB has to have the ball physically in his hands for him to be touched.

in 3 years, all qbs will be wearing red "no hit" jerseys in all the games too

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He didn't let go.....Clean hit yes, the follow through was what got him....Yes I know tough to let up....He drove him to the ground.....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:05 am 
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The Hen wrote:
He didn't let go.....Clean hit yes, the follow through was what got him....Yes I know tough to let up....He drove him to the ground.....


Why would he let go!?

As far as he knew the QB had the ball when he hit him. What is he just supposed to hold onto him and not tackle? (Give him a hug?) There is no way he could know that he threw the ball. He hit him before the ball left his hand. By the time the ball was being released Johnson was already bringing him to the ground.

Bad call. IMHO.

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He didn't let go.....Clean hit yes, the follow through was what got him....Yes I know tough to let up....He drove him to the ground.....


Why would he let go!?

As far as he knew the QB had the ball when he hit him. What is he just supposed to hold onto him and not tackle? (Give him a hug?) There is no way he could know that he threw the ball. He hit him before the ball left his hand. By the time the ball was being released Johnson was already bringing him to the ground.

Bad call. IMHO.



The rule states, even if he still had the ball, you cannot pile drive the qb into the ground...does not matter if he had the ball or not but since he took him off his feet and slammed him down...whether you like the rule or you think its for panzies, its what the rule states so its what he have to live with.

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The Hen wrote:
He didn't let go.....Clean hit yes, the follow through was what got him....Yes I know tough to let up....He drove him to the ground.....


Since his head was around the guys waist and to the side...probably for fear of getting a flag for leading with the crown of the helmet, it was impossible for him to know whether Johnson had the ball or not.


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Iceberg85 wrote:
hypocritex wrote:
The Hen wrote:
He didn't let go.....Clean hit yes, the follow through was what got him....Yes I know tough to let up....He drove him to the ground.....


Why would he let go!?

As far as he knew the QB had the ball when he hit him. What is he just supposed to hold onto him and not tackle? (Give him a hug?) There is no way he could know that he threw the ball. He hit him before the ball left his hand. By the time the ball was being released Johnson was already bringing him to the ground.

Bad call. IMHO.



The rule states, even if he still had the ball, you cannot pile drive the qb into the ground...does not matter if he had the ball or not but since he took him off his feet and slammed him down...whether you like the rule or you think its for panzies, its what the rule states so its what he have to live with.


So you've got a big QB who is refusing to leave his feet so you just quit and if the guy still has the ball he makes a big play? How could he pile drive the guy to the ground with his head around his waist? It was a textbook tackle. It is like they teach it from pop warner to the NFL. The official is there to make a judgement call. That call should be did the player try and hurt the QB...period.


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There was no pile driving. Johnson left his feet. The momentum from his dive (While he still had the ball) is what brought the QB down. He brought him down by the waist. That call was AWFUL. No one will ever convince me otherwise. It's not as if Johnson tackled his waste. Stood back up with QB in hand THEN slammed him down.. and its not as if he added anything extra onto his original waste tackle. He dove for the tackle around the waste. As he collided the QB released the ball. The QB then went down. This happens in football ALL the time. Absolutely ridiculous call.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Protecting the QB is the name of the game these days....the game would suffer if the stars don't come out at night because they are on IR. The rule also helps the giant breed of QB in the NFL these days...you know, the guys like Roethlisberger or Flacco. If you don't hit them hard and drive them into the turf, then they use their size and strength to beat you while you are hanging on them. If you do pound them into the ground by launching yourself, then they let the ball go and get the flag. These are big boys out there...they don't need the protection....and it handicaps the defense.

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I think what got Micah here was that he kept his moving after the ball was released. He had the qb wrapped up but his initial burst didn't take hime down, so he kept his feet moving driving the QB back until he finally went down. I agree that it was a bad call, but had it been Henne getting dragged down I might be on the ref's side.

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