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 PFT: Saban compares NFL agents to pimps
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Posted by Mike Florio on July 22, 2010 7:25 AM ET

Former Dolphins coach Nick Saban, who now profits from the free labor of football players (but for the room, board, and tuition that many of them wouldn't want anyway) as the coach of a program he said he wouldn't be coaching, has applied a strong label to agents who give the one thing to players that the college football system, which earns billions from their blood, sweat, and ligaments, won't.

Money.

"I don't think it's anything but greed that's creating it right now on behalf of the agents," Saban said Wednesday. "The agents that do this -- and I hate to say this, but how are they any better than a pimp?

"I have no respect for people who do that to young people. None. How would you feel if they did it to your child?"

Nick, you've lost us on this one. First of all, these kids aren't children. They're old enough to vote for our president, and they're old enough to die while carrying out his missions. So they're old enough to take responsibility for the decision as to whether they should take money under circumstances where they know that they shouldn't.

It's Saban's job to educate them that taking money will destroy their eligibility. Their eligibility to continue to play football for room, board, and tuition that many of them wouldn't want anyway. Their eligibility to continue to help Saban's family, not their own.

So, Nick, who's closer to being the pimp in this situation?

Look, we believe that agents and players should follow the rules, and that the colleges, the NCAA, the NFL, and the NFLPA should step in when they don't. But Saban has no business acting like an innocent bystander in this process.

Greed drives the entire college football system. The schools and the coaches bankroll millions, and the kids pocket peanuts in comparison. At least once agents get involved, the vast majority of the NFL money ends up in the players' pockets.

So, we'll ask it again. Who's closer to the being the pimp in this situation?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -to-pimps/

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As we asked, who's closer to being a pimp? The agent who gives a player some money now and keeps only a small chunk of it later, or the head coach who makes millions from players who get shillings in return, in the form of an education they don't want, and food and lodging they'd otherwise get elsewhere?

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Post Re: PFT: Saban compares NFL agents to pimps
I tend to agree with Saban here (I just threw up). If you're waving $100,000 in a broke college kids face, most of whom come from poor families, how are they going to say no? Just like pimps showing desperate women tons of money, it's very hard to turn down when your in such situations. However, I've never liked the idea of colleges and college coaches profiting from the hard work of the student athletes, while the athletes are eating cafeteria food to get by. It's a strange situation and I think something has to be done about it.

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Post Re: PFT: Saban compares NFL agents to pimps
I was going to call Saban a jerk, but that wasn't strong enough. Then I was going to call him something that not even Webster's Dictionary has, but figured it be best not to.

The very beginning of the article hit it right on the head. These college athletes are playing football, earning BILLIONS for the NCAA and their schools/programs, and in return the athletes get a scholarship to get a college education for almost free, and some for free ... something that, let's be honest, they don't even use.

The NCAA is not the only one to blame here though. The NFL needs to give some sort of monetary benefits or something to these players, especially the ones that get hurt and never have the NFL career, (or any career), that they would have. The NFLPA makes a big deal about NFL retiree's, and they should, but how about the collegiate athlete that gets hurt and went from making millions to going out into a tough economy with a fake education?

The NFL spends NOTHING on these players' developments, the programs spend nothing on these players, the public who buy jerseys and tickets to games ... none of that goes to the players, TV stations aren't spending any money on these players. Yet somehow programs are making billions, and coaches making millions because of their performance, with these players getting nothing but a little extra lovin' in college in return. Hardly any of these guys make it into the NFL. In fact, on average less than a college team's roster makes it into the NFL and has a career that lasts over 2 years...not even half of ONE roster.

Now, what agents and AD's do is wrong. No matter how stupid the rules, a player cannot get any money and the programs/agents need to respect that and not try and cheat the rules. But, for any college coach who is making millions while the reason he's making millions is making nothing, to start talking about this subject and in the way Saban did is ridiculous.

Saban is a land lord and slave owner...makes tons from his slaves, and sure, they get a place to sleep "for free" and some food, but in reality get nothing for what they do in return...

If you can make money doing odd jobs around your campus for your school, and out in the world, then why can't these players make at least a little bit of money for what they do for the school (football...or any other sport)? To me, it's ridiculous. The schools can afford it. Give everyone who makes the roster 40 or 50K a season, and the school is still making tons (way more than it should be making off the players), and the players are making a decent amount without the purity of the sport being corrupt and now the Reggie Bush's of the world don't have to go through this type of thing when trying to chose between USC and Florida or Alabama.

Florio's analogy is perfect. These programs and coaches are pimps, sending out these players to make millions for them, and then they get a (we'll call it a "boo-boo") and an apology is all they get.


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Post Re: PFT: Saban compares NFL agents to pimps
I keep hearing about these players that go into college hoping for the NFL, and then get hurt and they deserve some sort of compensation because they're poor and stuff.

They're in COLLEGE. That's the whole point of college, and what I believed to be the reasoning behind the NFL making it a rule to only allow juniors or better to enter the NFL....football isn't something that you can go into thinking you have no risks. You can die...just like a construction worker, or what have you. The difference is, the construction worker probably doesn't have a college education.

USE IT...you're not in college to be a football player. You're in college to better yourself as a human being, and football is something that is gravy. Enough of this feeling sorry for the players. I understand some come from harsh backgrounds, but don't kid yourselves into thinking that these athletes don't already get a lot handed to them.

They are privileged if anything to be at the University that they are at....as for the Universities benefiting from their sweat and blood? We as Americans have fueled that machine...we beg for more college football, we go to the games, we buy the paraphernalia that goes along with being a fan, and we blame the universities and the NCAA for their benefits? Should some of go to the students? IT DOES.

They give away tickets to students, if not, discounted...they are providing free schooling, housing, food, etc., to these star athletes. As for the ones that put all their effort into playing, but still have to pay for schooling?---that is their choice...nobody told them to do it, they want to play football, then they pay for the training/coaching/and on campus expenses..

This is sounding more like an argument between capitalism and socialism.
/end rant.

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Post Re: PFT: Saban compares NFL agents to pimps
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I keep hearing about these players that go into college hoping for the NFL, and then get hurt and they deserve some sort of compensation because they're poor and stuff.

They're in COLLEGE. That's the whole point of college, and what I believed to be the reasoning behind the NFL making it a rule to only allow juniors or better to enter the NFL....football isn't something that you can go into thinking you have no risks. You can die...just like a construction worker, or what have you. The difference is, the construction worker probably doesn't have a college education.

USE IT...you're not in college to be a football player. You're in college to better yourself as a human being, and football is something that is gravy. Enough of this feeling sorry for the players. I understand some come from harsh backgrounds, but don't kid yourselves into thinking that these athletes don't already get a lot handed to them.

They are privileged if anything to be at the University that they are at....as for the Universities benefiting from their sweat and blood? We as Americans have fueled that machine...we beg for more college football, we go to the games, we buy the paraphernalia that goes along with being a fan, and we blame the universities and the NCAA for their benefits? Should some of go to the students? IT DOES.

They give away tickets to students, if not, discounted...they are providing free schooling, housing, food, etc., to these star athletes. As for the ones that put all their effort into playing, but still have to pay for schooling?---that is their choice...nobody told them to do it, they want to play football, then they pay for the training/coaching/and on campus expenses..

This is sounding more like an argument between capitalism and socialism.
/end rant.


This is a whole lot similar to what I was going to post. These kids should be focused on an education as well as football... just because they put all of their eggs in one basket doesn't mean the NFL should be responsible when that basket falls over.

Each person needs to take responsibility for their own lives, enough of the pity parties.


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Iowafin wrote:
I keep hearing about these players that go into college hoping for the NFL, and then get hurt and they deserve some sort of compensation because they're poor and stuff.

They're in COLLEGE. That's the whole point of college, and what I believed to be the reasoning behind the NFL making it a rule to only allow juniors or better to enter the NFL....football isn't something that you can go into thinking you have no risks. You can die...just like a construction worker, or what have you. The difference is, the construction worker probably doesn't have a college education.

USE IT...you're not in college to be a football player. You're in college to better yourself as a human being, and football is something that is gravy. Enough of this feeling sorry for the players. I understand some come from harsh backgrounds, but don't kid yourselves into thinking that these athletes don't already get a lot handed to them.

They are privileged if anything to be at the University that they are at....as for the Universities benefiting from their sweat and blood? We as Americans have fueled that machine...we beg for more college football, we go to the games, we buy the paraphernalia that goes along with being a fan, and we blame the universities and the NCAA for their benefits? Should some of go to the students? IT DOES.

They give away tickets to students, if not, discounted...they are providing free schooling, housing, food, etc., to these star athletes. As for the ones that put all their effort into playing, but still have to pay for schooling?---that is their choice...nobody told them to do it, they want to play football, then they pay for the training/coaching/and on campus expenses..

This is sounding more like an argument between capitalism and socialism.
/end rant.


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Post Re: PFT: Saban compares NFL agents to pimps
Whats worse, being compared to pimp or being nick named "Satan" and compared to a weasel?

I take that back. Weasels deserve more respect.... :ann0y:



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