carreramia wrote:
k-dash wrote:
Seems awfully premature to be making any of these conclusions, and I don't see our current team nearly as negatively as you do in terms of the qb, play calling or future potential. Agree to disagree.
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what conclusions? you saw the game, it happened, nothing is made up and certainly the performance was more impressive than not, so to conclude that it wasn't real and one should instead scoff at the idea that the kid is good would be far more inaccurate.
and why do the views of our current team have to be negative as if they are good but seen negatively? they are not good, they are average, and like the coach once said, you are who your record says you are and until the team posts winning records they will be average. average is not negative, average is who they are.
and future potential? well, that's just a matter of opinion as you have no idea nor have I until it is actually done, so neither yours or mine can be categorized as negative or positive. people write all kinds of future scenarios, some appear far fetched, but they shouldn't be criticized, they are just opinions.
*sigh.
And here I was trying to be diplomatic. OK, let's see...
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what conclusions?
To start with,
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the Browns can avoid screwing up their upcoming drafts and can cap manage the thing, they will join the up and coming franchises, the ones taking over. Rams. Jaguars. Eagles. Chiefs. Vikings.
That's quite a bold conclusion, which does not even take into consideration the fact that the Browns have a head coach who has a historically bad record.
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and why do the views of our current team have to be negative as if they are good but seen negatively?
To imply that you are wishing our team has as good a "system" as a franchise that has won the same number of games in the past 2 + seasons than the Dolphins have the first 2 weeks of this season is a rather negative view of the current state of the Dolphins. If you are what your record says you are, I'd rather be the Dolphins than the Browns, thank you very much.
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people write all kinds of future scenarios, some appear far fetched, but they shouldn't be criticized, they are just opinions.
You are correct. I didn't criticize, just said agree to disagree. On the other hand, I did criticize you for the "he's in a real system now" because HISTORY would tell you that he is actually in perhaps the worst football system in the history of the NFL, or certainly one of them.
Look, I actually agree that the Browns look much improved. If they can get a coach who is able to get the most out of them, they may be a force in the years to come. If they can't, I imagine they will underachieve until they either screw up their roster like they've done so many times before or start over with a new coaching staff again and again.
I also agree that Mayfield looks like he may be a stud for years to come. I wish we had drafted him. I was merely saying that I think I have a higher opinion of Tannehill and our coaching staff than you do. That's not a criticism, it's an observation. Which is why I ended with "agree to disagree", which is where it could have ended.