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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:45 am 
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It sounds as if a suspension is coming to Kiko, but if you watch the entire play from above, some of the blame falls on Flacco for not sliding sooner.

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Kiko Alonso is likely going to be fined by the NFL for a vicious hit on a “sliding” Joe Flacco … and it’s total B.S.

Here’s a perfect example why: Last Monday night, Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz took off running on a critical third-down play. At the Redskins’ 39-yard-line, Wentz “entered” into his slide. Respecting the rule not to hit a sliding quarterback, safety Montae Nicholson lets up on the play, only to watch as Wentz digs his foot in and slips by him for 11 more yards.

It was a great fake by Wentz … that happened only because the NFL’s coddling of quarterbacks has put the onus of safety 100 percent on the defender, who in this case got burned by trying to do the right thing.

Now compare this play to the one involving Flacco and Alonso. At the 13-yard-line, Flacco is still upright, with Alonso running at him full speed at the 9 – 12 feet away. Flacco enters his slide at the 12, and by the time his knee actually touches the ground – meaning while he’s technically down, he’s still very much upright — he’s at the 11, with Alonso at the 10. Between the start of the slide and the time of the hit, a total of maybe .39 seconds elapses.

There’s no rule on when a quarterback should slide, nor is there a rule against fake slides. So in that .39 seconds – or a distance of at most 6 feet — the NFL has legislated that Alonso must determine that A) Flacco is in fact sliding and B) must alter and/or halt his full-speed momentum in a way that doesn’t physically touch the quarterback. Of course, if he decides to let up on the play and Flacco jukes by him (as Wentz did Nicholson), well, there’s no penalty on Flacco, only embarrassment and a tongue-lashing for Alonso.

The whole thing could have been avoided if Flacco hadn’t been trying to squeeze out every last yard and instead slid earlier. If you’re going to expect a defender to avoid hitting a sliding quarterback, shouldn’t the quarterback be expected to slide early enough to avoid an oncoming defender?

As it stands, 100 percent of the burden is on the guy who is relying on the other guy to play fair. And even when said guy does play “fair,” he’s allowed to decide when he wants to start playing fair.


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Here’s a perfect example why: Last Monday night, Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz took off running on a critical third-down play. At the Redskins’ 39-yard-line, Wentz “entered” into his slide. Respecting the rule not to hit a sliding quarterback, safety Montae Nicholson lets up on the play, only to watch as Wentz digs his foot in and slips by him for 11 more yards.

It was a great fake by Wentz … that happened only because the NFL’s coddling of quarterbacks has put the onus of safety 100 percent on the defender, who in this case got burned by trying to do the right thing.


That's a real issue. The NFL needs to focus on this ****. If Kiko does get fined, hell, even suspended, I agree. It's BS. Try walking in the man's shoes first.

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I dont think its total BS but I also dont think it was intentional.
The league though is going to have to pass a rule that once you initiate a slide that is it. You cannot fake a slide. Maybe have the QB raise his hand like a fair catch as well indicating he is giving himself up. This is a real problem.

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Let the QBs fake slides, it's a competitive move. But don't punish the person that blasts them because they wanted to pretend to be a running back for a moment.

I say QB is fair game until just like all other players, the knee is down. Be it the sliding knee or the one that's extended. Don't wanna get your teeth rattled? Initiate the slide sooner.

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Let the QBs fake slides


If a QB acts like he is going to slide but doesn't, he is marked down at where he started the "fake slide".

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I didn't see how Wentz pulled it off, but if that is the rule, too subjective, much like a lot of rules the NFL has put in place, especially with the intent nonsense. Just allows refs to play favorites on who they are going to protect or get plastered.

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