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Post Re: Dion Jordan suspended by the NFL for 4 games
Of course Taylor was a 3rd Rd. pick, not No. 3 overall.

To the Fins, 3 is 3 like GO-GO is GO. lol


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Post Re: Dion Jordan suspended by the NFL for 4 games
I still support the move up to get him and especially how cheaply we did it. Good move regardless of the outcome. It wasnt a great draft class at all and the only elite talent in the 1st round was Jordan, Ansah and the 3 offensive tackles. Worth a shot IMO.


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Good move regardless of the outcome

So far so bad...


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the NFL has been testing for many many years, there are no football players saying how they or everybody was on the


The NFL doesn't test for HGH, the most effective of all PEDs.

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Indeed Rich, which is why I said, "I can't speak on the suppossedly untraceable PEDs".

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Indeed Rich, which is why I said, "I can't speak on the suppossedly untraceable PEDs".


HGH is traceable, they've just decided not to test for it.

The other thing is most of these substances aren't in your system as long as pot and even if the NFL tests for them, they pretty much tell the players that it's coming, unless they've already failed one test, in which case they get much stricter.

Supposedly, Jordan tested positive for Aderrall, which is actually a performance enhancer for the mind, not the body.

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Okey dokey Rich,

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Okey dokey Rich,

sup·pos·ed·ly
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I'm fully aware of what the word means, which is why I used it. Thanks for wasting server space with the post, though.

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Thanks for wasting server space with the post, though.

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:) :haha

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seems like they're all getting popped for adderall these days. Is it really worth it boys?


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Yep....another winner from Ireland. Maybe he pans out someday, but you have to expect more from a third overall draft pick.

Throw in Pouncey's injury and Moreno's injury and things are shaping up for another mediocre Dolphin's season.

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seems like they're all getting popped for adderall these days. Is it really worth it boys?


Just take ginkgo biloba...

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Ginko biloba, your kidding right,

Amphetamine is used by some athletes for its psychological and performance-enhancing effects, such as increased stamina and alertness, but this is prohibited at events regulated by the World Anti-Doping Agency.[15][43][44] In healthy people at oral therapeutic doses, amphetamine has been shown to increase physical strength,[44][45] acceleration,[44][45] stamina,[44][46] endurance,[44][46] and alertness,[15] while reducing reaction time.[44] Like the psychostimulants methylphenidate and bupropion, amphetamine increases stamina and endurance in humans primarily through reuptake inhibition and effluxion of dopamine in the central nervous system.[45][46] At much higher doses, amphetamine can induce side effects that impair performance, such as rhabdomyolysis and hyperthermia.[9][10][45]

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Ginko biloba, your kidding right,


Yes, my kidding. Whatever that means.

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Amphetamine is used by some athletes for its psychological and performance-enhancing effects, such as increased stamina and alertness, but this is prohibited at events regulated by the World Anti-Doping Agency.[15][43][44] In healthy people at oral therapeutic doses, amphetamine has been shown to increase physical strength,[44][45] acceleration,[44][45] stamina,[44][46] endurance,[44][46] and alertness,[15] while reducing reaction time.[44] Like the psychostimulants methylphenidate and bupropion, amphetamine increases stamina and endurance in humans primarily through reuptake inhibition and effluxion of dopamine in the central nervous system.[45][46] At much higher doses, amphetamine can induce side effects that impair performance, such as rhabdomyolysis and hyperthermia.[9][10][45]


Not sure what this has to do with the discussion.

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Uh, adderal is amphetomines.

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Uh, adderal is amphetomines.


Uh, you were responding to my ginkgo biloba post and then posted some information about amphetamines.

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Post Re: Dion Jordan suspended by the NFL for 4 games
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Indeed Rich, which is why I said, "I can't speak on the suppossedly untraceable PEDs".


HGH is traceable, they've just decided not to test for it.

The other thing is most of these substances aren't in your system as long as pot and even if the NFL tests for them, they pretty much tell the players that it's coming, unless they've already failed one test, in which case they get much stricter.

Supposedly, Jordan tested positive for Aderrall, which is actually a performance enhancer for the mind, not the body.


That would be wrong, it is mental and physical enhancer.

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swerve13 wrote:
seems like they're all getting popped for adderall these days. Is it really worth it boys?


Just take ginkgo biloba...
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Uh, adderal is amphetomines.


Uh, you were responding to my ginkgo biloba post and then posted some information about amphetamines.

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You stated wrongly, that it was for the mind not the body, then said, just take ginko biloba, inferring that they're very similar, ginko biloba is an herb that may or may not actually help with memory, adderal is amphetamines, which is a drug, they aren't similar and taking ginkgo biloba will not physically enhance your body.

Rest assured, DJ was not taking them for his mind.

Does this help you understand what you wrote? I certainly hope so, but I'm placing no bets...

:haha

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:haha


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That would be wrong, it is mental and physical enhancer.


I think it is you that has an issue with following along. Athletes primarily use it to increase concentration and memory, period, end of story. If they wanted a "physical enhancer", they could certainly find a ton of other more effective things for that, including HGH, which as previously discussed, isn't tested for.

Adderall has absolutely nothing to do with building 17 lbs of muscle (adderall in fact eats muscle and screws with your testosterone levels). HGH and steroids would.

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just take ginko biloba, inferring that they're very similar, ginko biloba is an herb that may or may not actually help with memory, adderal is amphetamines, which is a drug, they aren't similar and taking ginkgo biloba will not physically enhance your body.


This is where you're a bit slow on the uptake. I didn't infer anything. I simply introduced an alternative in the event he was looking for an edge with focus and concentration.

If he was taking something because he had issues focusing or concentrating, ginkgo biloba would be effective and wouldn't cause him to test positive for a PED. That's the only reason I brought it up. And seeing how this discussion is going, it is something you might want to look into.

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Does this help you understand what you wrote?


I hope for your sake that you do not work in any sort of communication field.

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I hope for everyone else's sake that you don't.

:haha

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You guys make a great couple.

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I hope for everyone else's sake that you don't.

:haha


That's the best you could come up with...

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I think you've hung yourself out to dry enough, you don't need me to pile on too much.

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So says the guy who claims to love civil discussions in one thread and then engages in uncalled for condescension in another.

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You guys make a great couple.


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I do love a civil debate Rich, however I do not, nor have I ever claimed to be a champion of civil debate, if I do get into a conversation that is less than civil, (enter Rich), then I'll give as good as I get.

The problem here is, you and civil debate do not reside on the same block, jab at me and I shall jab back, so as for the "uncalled for condescension", you were waving your banner while wearing a target on your chest, iow, asking for it.

However, I thought it was all in good fun.

:headscratch

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I do love a civil debate Rich, however I do not, nor have I ever claimed to be a champion of civil debate, if I do get into a conversation that is less than civil, (enter Rich), then I'll give as good as I get.

The problem here is, you and civil debate do not reside on the same block, jab at me and I shall jab back, so as for the "uncalled for condescension", you were waving your banner while wearing a target on your chest, iow, asking for it.

However, I thought it was all in good fun.

:headscratch


Show me where I jabbed before you jabbed with this comment:

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Nothing that I posted prior to the quote above was a "jab" or uncivil. So don't pretend you were the one just giving as good as you got.

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Post Re: Dion Jordan suspended by the NFL for 4 games
Rich, that wasn't meant as a jab, that was a clarification of my comment, the 2nd clarification of said comment to be exact
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Indeed Rich, which is why I said, "I can't speak on the suppossedly untraceable PEDs".


Then you reply by saying HGH is traceable...

That is why I put the "supposedly" in the sentence, you did not seem to catch on to that so I posted the definition of supposedly, in all honesty I thought you were doing it on purpose to stir things up,I kinda thought that was your thing, so I went with it.

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Dion Jordon Just Did The Dolphins a Big Favor
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Mike Pouncey was injured. This lead to them to sign Daryn Colledge to add some depth and veteran experience to the line as the team works on way to fill Pouncey’s shoes for the early part of the season. What this means is the team is probably going to have to cut a player at Wide Receiver or on the DLine who is more talented than someone on the Oline because they need to carry a player to fill in for Pouncey. It makes it very hard to not put Mike Pouncey on the PUP even if he will be ready by week 4 or 5. It also means Miami had to give up some precious salary cap space to sign Colledge.
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Ok now the Dion Jordon suspension gets announced and from what I understand this is what happens. Firstly, suspended players are not paid their salary or bonuses during the time they are suspended. In fact from what I researched it looked like the league mandates this. It appears this number comes in at $800,000 roughly for Dion Jordon. This number essentially comes off the salary cap for the team. Secondly, while suspended, the player does not count toward the 53 man roster. The player is allowed to fully participate in practice however they are not allowed to play in games on Sunday. So to sum this up, Dion Jordon’s suspension cut the teams the Salary Cap loss by $800,000 and also freed up a roster spot for 4 weeks. Dion will be practicing with the team and should be ready to go week 5. Wow! What perfect timing. Dion can sit out so Mike Pouncey can be kept off the PUP. ...


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You had me at Amphetomines

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