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Post Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
In Adam Beasley's words: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks: Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Jay Cutler, Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco and Tom Brady (twice).

Our defense will have to be up to the challenge and our offense will need to be able to score points, but definitely safe to say we have an impressive set of Quarterbacks to face this season!!!


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Those QBs should be shaking facing our DL.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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Those QBs should be shaking facing our DL.

I totally agree.

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Flacco and Cutler?

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Our QB will be the best one on the field. Year 3 .... it all comes together!!

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Ya...I'm sure there are other teams that face a greater number of elite QB's than us.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Peyton is 5-7 vs miami with 18 TDs and 18 INTs and the LOWEST QB rating of 60.5 against an opponent. And if you take away the Peyton Manning 14 min victory in orange uni's under Sparano's helm itd be even uglier...

Source: http://www.peytonmanning18.com/eachteam.html

Brady is 17-7 against Miami.... 42 TDs and 20 INTs for an 89.8 rating.... top 5 lowest QBR's against a team, and the MOST LOSSES

Source: http://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/11/0 ... -nfl-team/

Miami is 7-2 against the Chargers since 1999.... 3-2 vs Rivers.....and both those losses on the road. Rivers has not looked great against Miami in any of his tries.



Just throwing these things out there. Yes, the Ravens have had Miami's number ever since the Camarillo magically OT win.

Denver has done surprisingly bad against Miami, and Miami has done GREAT against Manning.... I smell upset.

Rodgers is a great QB, no questions asked. But ive heard, and may be assuming, that he hasnt done all that great against the AFC. Not saying victory, but not an insurmountable mismatch as i see it.

Cutler is Cutler. Im more worried about his 2 recievers rather than him as it is. Talent, yes....

Rivers, we have been under his skin for a while. He doesnt do well against Miami.

And the big tuna..... Brady.... well i think we stopped the bleeding, I smell at least one win.


Murderer's Row? Sure.... Miami has done surprisingly well against them though, so dont over react


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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so dont over react


Who on here is overreacting? The article is just pointing out that Miami faces some good QB's this season. Remember, having a good QB already vaults you into being competitive.

Sure Miami has done well against some of these guys in the past but on the flip side, they are still talented to face off against and these are different teams, different faces and a new season.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
geez,

I was just trying to be positive. History doesnt mean everything... but still, surprisingly Miami has matched up well against good QBs..

We can't beat 3rd string QBs to save our lives though...... Thad Lewis...and others ring a bell.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
on the brighter flip side we also play EJ Manuel, EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Geno Smith, Alex Smith, Matt Shaub, Chad Henne and Matt Cassell. Eight very favorable quarterback matchups.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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on the brighter flip side we also play EJ Manuel, EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Geno Smith, Alex Smith, Matt Shaub, Chad Henne and Matt Cassell. Eight very favorable quarterback matchups.


I hope we play EJ twice because heaven help us if the Bills decide to use their secret weapon Thad Lewis twice against us again.

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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on the brighter flip side we also play EJ Manuel, EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Geno Smith, Alex Smith, Matt Shaub, Chad Henne and Matt Cassell. Eight very favorable quarterback matchups.


I hope we play EJ twice because heaven help us if the Bills decide to use their secret weapon Thad Lewis twice against us again.


easily the most embarassing part of last season.


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hope we play EJ twice because heaven help us if the Bills decide to use their secret weapon Thad Lewis twice against us again.

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Yep and those subpar QB's somehow did enough to beat the Dolphins including Geno Smith.

The AFC East will be a dog fight. If we can get out of there with a 5-3 record we will have done well in the division and anything better than that will be a bonus.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
I agree that the division is always a dog fight but honestly this is getting old. The Jets & Bills seem to always be worse than us , just messes of teams & we still find ways to lose to them while after a dozen years or so now , we cannot figure out a way to over take the Patriots. And yes that goes for the Jets & Bills as well but arent we supposed to be better than them?

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Makchell wrote:
Those QBs should be shaking facing our DL.


FINesse?!?! That you?


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FINesse?!?! That you?


Nope, just giving a different perspective. lol...


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Last year Miami beat Luck, Ryan, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Dalton and Brady. They roughed up Brady (first time around), Flacco, and Newton.

If the offense can put up 20+ points per game and doesn't force the defense to be gassed then I'm not overly worried about the QB competition. The only elite guy last year who did serious damage was Brees and that was after Miami just made mistake after mistake.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Last year Miami beat Luck, Ryan, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Dalton and Brady. They roughed up Brady (first time around), Flacco, and Newton

But Thad Lewis swept us...weird.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
because we're weird Mak, one of the weirdest teams I've ever watched. We defy statistics all the time.


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Last year Miami beat Luck, Ryan, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Dalton and Brady. They roughed up Brady (first time around), Flacco, and Newton

But Thad Lewis swept us...weird.


When the offense can't put up points and keep their own defense off the field...


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
I don't expect Brady and the pats to be as discombobulated this year as they were last year when they had an entire new crop of receivers,
by the time they reached the pllayoffs they were a much better team, I am expecting that team to show up this year, not the bumbling team they started as.

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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I don't expect Brady and the pats to be as discombobulated this year as they were last year when they had an entire new crop of receivers,
by the time they reached the pllayoffs they were a much better team, I am expecting that team to show up this year, not the bumbling team they started as.


A lot depends on Gronk. Yes, the receivers are more settled in. Last season, you had the Aaron Hernandez fiasco, they let Welker walk and Amendola and Gronk were injured. Not to mention you had two rookies getting significant playing time (and dropping a lot of passes).

But once Gronk came back, that offense looked completely different.

They expect him to play Week 1, but that remains to be seen. Also, can Amendola be counted on to play a full season?

We'll see.

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Rich wrote:
Finster wrote:
I don't expect Brady and the pats to be as discombobulated this year as they were last year when they had an entire new crop of receivers,
by the time they reached the pllayoffs they were a much better team, I am expecting that team to show up this year, not the bumbling team they started as.


A lot depends on Gronk. Yes, the receivers are more settled in. Last season, you had the Aaron Hernandez fiasco, they let Welker walk and Amendola and Gronk were injured. Not to mention you had two rookies getting significant playing time (and dropping a lot of passes).

But once Gronk came back, that offense looked completely different.

They expect him to play Week 1, but that remains to be seen. Also, can Amendola be counted on to play a full season?

We'll see.


They do have problems keeping Grronk and Amendola on the field Rich, but late season last year they didn't have Gronk but were still pretty good, I don't expect either of them to play 16 games, but they run the ball well and Edelman is a lot like Bess, he just gets open a lot on 3rd downs to keep the drive alive.

I'm just waiting for Brady to start showing signs of age, eventually it has to happen, just when...

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
How young do you have to be to throw screens and 3-yard slants all game long? Pretty sure Brady could do that until he's 50.


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How young do you have to be to throw screens and 3-yard slants all game long? Pretty sure Brady could do that until he's 50.


If that is all they do, why are they so difficult to stop?

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How young do you have to be to throw screens and 3-yard slants all game long? Pretty sure Brady could do that until he's 50.


If that is all they do, why are they so difficult to stop?


Beats me, but they live off of that short spread game.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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How young do you have to be to throw screens and 3-yard slants all game long? Pretty sure Brady could do that until he's 50.


If that is all they do, why are they so difficult to stop?


Beats me, but they live off of that short spread game.


Maybe, but Brady was 9th in the NFL in pass attempts that traveled through the air 20 yards or more.

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
and was 22nd in the league in yards per pass attempt among QBs. It's an offense designed around passes to running backs, slot receivers and tight ends.


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Swerve, your taking 1 bad year with new young WRs who struggled mightily early, the loss of Hernandez (where the hell is Dexter when you need him) and Gronk in and out of the line up, thats the reason for that low number, the Pats are usually near the top in that category.

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
Been going on longer than that...This is from 2012.

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Remember when Tom Brady used to effortlessly connect on bombs to Randy Moss in 2007 and 2009? Well, those days are in the past for the New England Patriots.

Brady is still an elite quarterback. But one thing that's showing with age is the 35-year-old's inability to accurately throw the deep ball. Brady missed on a pair of big opportunities in Sunday's loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Brady overthrew receiver Brandon Lloyd and Pro Bowl tight end Rob Gronkowski on a pair of deep passes Brady wished he could have back.

The deep ball has been increasingly missing with Brady as he's gotten older. Since 2011, he's overthrown 12 of 19 attempts of 30 yards or more, which is the highest percentage (63.2) in the league, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

In addition, Brady completed just 50.5 percent of passes of 15 yards or more last season. Brady is still great at reading defenses and making the short and intermediate passes. But age and wear and tear is starting to create holes in Brady's deep passing game.

Lloyd was expected to bring the deep ball back to New England's offense but that hasn't been the case through two weeks. Lloyd is averaging 9.9 yards per catch. Brady's longest pass to Lloyd is for 27 yards. Part of it is developing chemistry, but the other part is Brady’s struggles with accuracy throwing beyond 30 yards.

The Cardinals did a good job of pressuring Brady (four sacks), keeping everything in front of them and not letting New England make explosive plays. This strategy kept the Patriots out of the end zone until late in the fourth quarter.

Expect more opponents to play the Patriots this way unless Brady proves he can tear the roof off the defense.


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It's an offense designed around passes to running backs, slot receivers and tight ends.


As are most offenses in the NFL now, and others that aren't, are now trying to evolve/adapt into it. It's a completely different game now. It's going to be interesting to see it hit or bust in Miami.

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The Pats were 9th in 2012 in YPA.

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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
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The Pats were 9th in 2012 in YPA.


But does that account for all the yards-after-the-catch on all those short passes?


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Post Re: Miami faces a murderer’s row of quarterbacks in 2014
I'm sure that has something to do with it, also their lack of a legit deep threat contributes to Brady not being as consistent on deep throws, but they are usually a very efficient offense.

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and was 22nd in the league in yards per pass attempt among QBs. It's an offense designed around passes to running backs, slot receivers and tight ends.


Just because they were 22nd in the league in yards per attempt doesn't mean they were dinking and dunking up and down the field. Again, if Brady was 9th in attempts that travelled 20 yards or more in the air, it means they tried to attack deep more than most teams.

The difference is the success rate.

Brady attempted more passes of 20+ yards than Tannehill, Luck, Newton, Wilson, Cutler, Foles, Rivers and Kaepernick.

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