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Post ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
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New England Patriots trade offensive lineman Marcus Cannon to the Miami Dolphins for defensive lineman Jared Odrick

Why it works for New England: Cannon filled in for right tackle Sebastian Vollmer during the 2013 season, starting the final eight games. Cannon was dominant in the run game, though not as effective in the pass game. That being said, he's too talented to sit on the bench, and with Vollmer expected to be ready for the start of next season, the Patriots have their starting five from 2013 back intact. Odrick would fill a need to beef up the defensive line, bringing both run-stuffing force and interior pass-rush ability with him.

Why it works for Miami: The Dolphins have taken dramatic steps to shore up their protection woes from last season (QB Ryan Tannehill was sacked 58 times, most in the NFL), adding tackle Branden Albert, guard Shelley Smith and running back Knowshon Moreno, a sturdy blitz pickup back. Adding Cannon would bring a chip to the right side of the line. It would be a concern for Miami to lose Odrick and veteran defensive tackle Paul Soliai during the same offseason, but the pass-protection issues are too grave to overlook. An intradivision trade is almost unfathomable in the NFL, but both sides would benefit from this swap.


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
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Why it works for Miami: The Dolphins have taken dramatic steps to shore up their protection woes from last season (QB Ryan Tannehill was sacked 58 times, most in the NFL), adding tackle Branden Albert, guard Shelley Smith and running back Knowshon Moreno, a sturdy blitz pickup back. Adding Cannon would bring a chip to the right side of the line. It would be a concern for Miami to lose Odrick and veteran defensive tackle Paul Soliai during the same offseason, but the pass-protection issues are too grave to overlook. An intradivision trade is almost unfathomable in the NFL, but both sides would benefit from this swap.


Fixing one issue while creating another. Prime example of why Miami has been abysmal the past decade +.

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New England Patriots trade offensive lineman Marcus Cannon to the Miami Dolphins for defensive lineman Jared Odrick

Why it works for New England: Cannon filled in for right tackle Sebastian Vollmer during the 2013 season, starting the final eight games. Cannon was dominant in the run game, though not as effective in the pass game. That being said, he's too talented to sit on the bench, and with Vollmer expected to be ready for the start of next season, the Patriots have their starting five from 2013 back intact. Odrick would fill a need to beef up the defensive line, bringing both run-stuffing force and interior pass-rush ability with him.

Why it works for Miami: The Dolphins have taken dramatic steps to shore up their protection woes from last season (QB Ryan Tannehill was sacked 58 times, most in the NFL), adding tackle Branden Albert, guard Shelley Smith and running back Knowshon Moreno, a sturdy blitz pickup back. Adding Cannon would bring a chip to the right side of the line. It would be a concern for Miami to lose Odrick and veteran defensive tackle Paul Soliai during the same offseason, but the pass-protection issues are too grave to overlook. An intradivision trade is almost unfathomable in the NFL, but both sides would benefit from this swap.

One of the biggest piece of crap trades I have ever seen smh


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
AFC- why is this ill conceived article by ESPN an example of why we have been "abysmal"?

There are definitely reasons, but bad ideas by ESPN isn't one of them


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
Miami has a wealth of DE's. If they're going to trade a DL guy it is going to be one of them and it woudln't be that bad an idea if they can get a quality OL guy in return. That said, you don't give the Patriots a guy that is going to haunt you for the next 10 seasons.


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
You do not trade inside the division, period. Especially with the Pats, nothing I would hate more than to see Odrick have a field day sacking Tannehill and Bellicheat laughing on the sideline.


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
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You do not trade inside the division, period. .

Overblown concept IMO. If the trade works for you then make it.


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AFC- why is this ill conceived article by ESPN an example of why we have been "abysmal"?

There are definitely reasons, but bad ideas by ESPN isn't one of them



Lol, not at all what I meant... =/

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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
Sounds exactly like something Miami would have done in the past. Trade a former 1st round pick who has been a consistent player for us, and get a backup right tackle and former 5th round pick with weight issues and medical concerns in return.
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If we've learned anything from the Wes Welker trade it's that we should never trade with New England. If the Patriots are letting somebody go, it's because they've got nothing left in the tank that New England wants.

Miami is much better off drafting a pair of offensive linemen and then picking up a vet or two to fill out the remainder of the roster after the draft.


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
hallphin wrote:
AFC- why is this ill conceived article by ESPN an example of why we have been "abysmal"?

There are definitely reasons, but bad ideas by ESPN isn't one of them


I think it is pretty clear from AFC's post that he meant fixing one problem while creating another.

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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
I'm getting a little tired of ESPN mailing it in with some of their reporters. James Walker offers absolutely nothing. I've seen better inside information on this site from fans who aren't PAID to follow a team. And this article, although not written by Walker, is clearly done by a guy who looked up a few stats and did not do his homework on Miami's depth chart.

The problem is it doesn't work for Miami. Odrick is the superior player and comparable right tackles could still be signed.


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Post Re: ESP (suggested trade. ....that won't likely happen)
Dumb trade - fully benefits the Patriots who have depth at the position and leaves us clinging to scraps at the DT position.


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