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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Fox is teasing the full interview. According to Incognito, a week before he left, Martin sent a text to Incognito saying "I'll murder your whole f****** family" as a joke.

The hell is wrong with Martin that he's partaking with the rest of the guys, and then he does this to Richie and his team mates??


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This was the text, according to his agent:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:14 pm 
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I am disappointed, I put my plans on hold to watch this "interview". I wasn't aware that they were just teasing 30 seconds of the whole thing. Seriously, WTF? Anyone know when the whole interview in its entirety will be aired?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:16 pm 
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Probably around 12:30.

They said it will be later in the pre game show.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:23 pm 
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Yes but don't you understand that the reason Martin sent that text(if true) and maybe other stuff is that Incognito and the rest of the team bullied him into doing it. I would think that something along those lines would be his defense. You don't realize the depth of his psychological trauma suffered in that environment. The environment has already been compared to a prison yard.


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Im really glad we changed the culture around here & signed character guys.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:34 pm 
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FINesse wrote:
Im really glad we changed the culture around here & signed character guys.


You mean like people facing murder charges? Do you think that the overall Miami atmosphere and culture as it relates to Incognito and the words he used and acceptance of them is that different than the rest of the NFL?

Besides I have it from reliable sources that the Phins are the best in the NFL.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:38 pm 
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Jay Glazer ✔ @JayGlazer

"@The_Philster: @RapSheet @JayGlazer unless he produced said texts, I call BS on Martin texting him that">>yes I have the text
Retweeted by Adam Beasley


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:42 pm 
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Well if there really is a text does Martin get suspended now or is he safe because there was not a redneck cracker reference?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:49 pm 
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Glazer says he printed up 1,042 texts between Incognito and Martin. He says texts are offensive, but going back & forth between both.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:53 pm 
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Martin looks like a fool now. He should just drop the whole thing and walk away.


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Jimmy Johnson not afraid to speak his opinion. Said what a lot of us are thinking…Martin did not leave because of this. Pressure of position switch, 4 game losing streak, a lot of criticism, etc. got to him. This is an excuse, not the reason.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:04 pm 
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...According to Incognito, Martin texted him after the story broke that the bullying claims weren’t coming directly from Martin ...

- See more at: http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedaily ... Kk6Vw.dpuf


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... Prior to Martin's representation filing a complaint of player misconduct with the Dolphins, Martin told Incognito that the allegations of bullying and harassment were not coming from him. He, according to Incognito, wrote in a text that he had not talked to anyone about these things, and didn't know how they were coming out. ...


http://www.thephinsider.com/2013/11/10/ ... jay-glazer


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Sounds like game over for Martin. OK, I think I'm on the Incognito train now. This is what I was waiting on.

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Martin's agent tweeted this explanation:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


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So you send a pretty pic and it's different? They are both guilty, and Martin is a big baby.


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Makchell wrote:
So you send a pretty pic and it's different? They are both guilty, and Martin is a big baby.

This

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Phins Rock wrote:
Martin's agent tweeted this explanation:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


Is Cornwell really this freaking stupid?

Martin sent that meme because it captured the inside joke between the two of them about each other's family members. The fact that it has a picture to go with it doesn't change anything about Martin's level of participation.

I'm seriously just in awe of the level of stupidity and childishness of this whole situation even being made public. It's downright sad.

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Rock Sexton wrote:
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Martin's agent tweeted this explanation:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


Is Cornwell really this freaking stupid?

Martin sent that meme because it captured the inside joke between the two of them about each other's family members. The fact that it has a picture to go with it doesn't change anything about Martin's level of participation.

I'm seriously just in awe of the level of stupidity and childishness of this whole situation even being made public. It's downright sad.


Exactly my thoughts.


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Rock Sexton wrote:
Phins Rock wrote:
Martin's agent tweeted this explanation:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


Is Cornwell really this freaking stupid?

Martin sent that meme because it captured the inside joke between the two of them about each other's family members. The fact that it has a picture to go with it doesn't change anything about Martin's level of participation.

I'm seriously just in awe of the level of stupidity and childishness of this whole situation even being made public. It's downright sad.


i don't think it matters anyway Rock, Glazer said he read over 1000 texts between the 2 that for the most part were over the top insulting. That's proof enough.


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Rock Sexton wrote:
Phins Rock wrote:
Martin's agent tweeted this explanation:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


Is Cornwell really this freaking stupid?

Martin sent that meme because it captured the inside joke between the two of them about each other's family members. The fact that it has a picture to go with it doesn't change anything about Martin's level of participation.

I'm seriously just in awe of the level of stupidity and childishness of this whole situation even being made public. It's downright sad.


Furthermore, is there any way we can save face in this situation? Even if we use things like this against Martin and make him look like a Rat then we're still a classless organization.

Firing Ireland & Philbin are almost our only PR Play to move ahead

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Sad that the NFL part of this investigation isn't until LATE next week. Incognito's suspension IMO needs to get lifted immediately. I mean were the racial slur words and unethical approach to the conversations wrong? Well, in principle, of course, but my goodness Martin was as guilty from his end.

This is a Kangaroo Court if you ask me and a Goat Rodeo approach to the whole stupid matter.

Martin you big puss.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:16 pm 
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Because Martin is a Stanford grad with Harvard educated parents and knows how to send meme's and the Nebraska guy probably is not that sophisticated, Martin gets style points that mitigates the meaning of what he sends in messages to whatever fits the already established narrative.

Incognito is in the wrong and bullied a sensitive and highly refined person by sullying Martin's character with his presence and that of the other Phins in the prison yard/locker room of the NFL, especially the Phins which is obviously the worst of them all.


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Incognito is in the wrong and bullied a sensitive and highly refined person by sullying his character with his presence and that of the other Phins in the prison yard/locker room of the NFL, especially the Phins which is obviously the worst of them all.


With over 1000 texts back and forth and claims Martin also said incriminating texts, I will suspect this is not a slam dunk case against Incognito.

Martin is a big baby that should have handled all this privately and whether Richie was in the wrong or not. This media blitz on the Dolphins organization is all something that could have been avoided.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:28 pm 
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either way, I read that this was the final straw as far as the Dolphins are concerned about Incognito's career here. Way too many off field issues leading up to this. They do not want him back.


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They do not want him back.

Where did you read this? Did either Philbin/Ireland/Ross say that?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:33 pm 
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Phins Rock wrote:
Jimmy Johnson not afraid to speak his opinion. Said what a lot of us are thinking…Martin did not leave because of this. Pressure of position switch, 4 game losing streak, a lot of criticism, etc. got to him. This is an excuse, not the reason.


I truly hope this is the case.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:44 pm 
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By James Walker

Regardless of what side you're on, here is something everyone should be able to agree on: The Dolphins' culture is broken.

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Ok I maybe in the minority but I don't agree. Don't anyone try to bully me by disagreeing, please.


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The Dolphins' culture is broken.

it is?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:15 pm 
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They do not want him back.

Where did you read this? Did either Philbin/Ireland/Ross say that?


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Richie Incognito remains a member of the Dolphins but it's only a matter of time before he's sent packing, according to the Miami Herald.

"He's done," a ranking club source told the Herald Monday. "There are procedures in place and everyone wants to be fair. The NFL is involved. But from a club perspective he'll never play another game here."


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According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Incognito was summoned to the league office prior to the 2012 season to discuss off-field incidents that apparently never made it to the public eye. (One of those incidents surely related to the golf-course incident that came to light this week.)

Schefter also reports that Incognito was involved in a June 2013 fight at a night club. Incognito reportedly punched bouncer Carlos Joseph (the brother of former NFL defensive tackle William Joseph), Incognito was punched as well, and security cameras showed Incognito spitting out blood.

And lets not forget that Incognito allegedly punched and knocked out a security guard at an incident before the start of 2013 training camp.

These past incidents quite likely will be used by the Dolphins to support the suspension of Incognito as the straw that broke the camels back.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:18 pm 
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IMO Incognito is too much of a liability for this organization and the talent does not outweigh the headaches he causes. I also do not want Martin back. Play with who we have.


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Richie Incognito remains a member of the Dolphins but it's only a matter of time before he's sent packing, according to the Miami Herald.

"He's done," a ranking club source told the Herald Monday. "There are procedures in place and everyone wants to be fair. The NFL is involved. But from a club perspective he'll never play another game here."


Swerve, this article came out in the MEDIA and RIGHT after this story blew up. Incognito may be gone at the end of the day, but what your posting has NO NAMES attached to who said that comment, therefore, it is speculation at this point.

I am merely stating facts, if Ross, Philbin or Ireland didn't say it, then I don't buy it.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:13 am 
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Rock Sexton wrote:
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Martin's agent tweeted this explanation:

https://twitter.com/wmdavidcornwell/sta ... 9386707968


Is Cornwell really this freaking stupid?

Martin sent that meme because it captured the inside joke between the two of them about each other's family members. The fact that it has a picture to go with it doesn't change anything about Martin's level of participation.

I'm seriously just in awe of the level of stupidity and childishness of this whole situation even being made public. It's downright sad.

Yes, yes and yes. Much ado about nothing.

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Phins Rock wrote:
Jimmy Johnson not afraid to speak his opinion. Said what a lot of us are thinking…Martin did not leave because of this. Pressure of position switch, 4 game losing streak, a lot of criticism, etc. got to him. This is an excuse, not the reason.

That's what I've been thinking from the start.


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